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True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
3989
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Posted - 2013.11.08 02:07:00 -
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I believe the Jove are extinct. The Nation has wiped them out. Sleepers are the only remnants left of what they once were.
"All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
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True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
3989
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Posted - 2013.11.08 02:20:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:True Adamance wrote:I believe the Jove are extinct. The Nation has wiped them out. Sleepers are the only remnants left of what they once were. theres nothing to prove that, and theres nothing to prove anything happened to them, other than sanshas invasion since that pilot got lucky with the probe
Nothing to prove it but the absence of the Nation within know space, and the fact that they too can manipulate Wormholes like the Jove were able to. It is entirely possible in his time Sansha Kuvakei found a naturally occuring wormhole to the Jovian Systems and since has built his forces upon the ruins of their technology.
His vastly superior ship designs and advanced laser weaponry like the Jove are indicative that he has exploited some kind of advanced technology.
"All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
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True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
4136
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Posted - 2013.11.16 01:24:00 -
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Adaptable Abyss wrote:It is not a subject I have thought about truthfully. But if I were to make a statement about the Jove it would be that they are to be feared. They possess extremely advanced technology and are more than capable of infiltrating every network we and the various empires possess. CONCORD is just asking for it. They are everywhere in higher security space and so are capsuleers and us. We immortal soldiers are artificial. What if our very bodies and minds were bugged so that we transmitted all of our activities, knowledge and experiences back to the Jove. They don't need contact with us when they have us on a vid-screen. And with what I've experienced alone, if I were the Jove, I wouldn't want contact with the rest of New Eden either. Constant war, strife, conflict, you name it. All are different forms of disease.
Sansha has access to Jovian tech without a doubt. But the question to be asked is whether he took it, or was left it. I don't believe he would have dealings with the Jove, but I do think that the jove could trick him into believing he just happened upon it. The same goes for those that found the cloning technology.
Why the Jove would want us to have it is a big enough question on its own. Who is to say it is Jovian at all. Maybe there is more than just Amarr, Minmatar, Gallente, Jove and Caldari. The empires are old, but Human kind is older and the Galaxy older still.
The Jove are dead, the Nation has destroyed them.
That is what I believe, there is more than enough evidence to speculate this is the case, but not enough to consider it the truth.
"All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
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True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
4136
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Posted - 2013.11.16 02:04:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:True Adamance wrote:Adaptable Abyss wrote:It is not a subject I have thought about truthfully. But if I were to make a statement about the Jove it would be that they are to be feared. They possess extremely advanced technology and are more than capable of infiltrating every network we and the various empires possess. CONCORD is just asking for it. They are everywhere in higher security space and so are capsuleers and us. We immortal soldiers are artificial. What if our very bodies and minds were bugged so that we transmitted all of our activities, knowledge and experiences back to the Jove. They don't need contact with us when they have us on a vid-screen. And with what I've experienced alone, if I were the Jove, I wouldn't want contact with the rest of New Eden either. Constant war, strife, conflict, you name it. All are different forms of disease.
Sansha has access to Jovian tech without a doubt. But the question to be asked is whether he took it, or was left it. I don't believe he would have dealings with the Jove, but I do think that the jove could trick him into believing he just happened upon it. The same goes for those that found the cloning technology.
Why the Jove would want us to have it is a big enough question on its own. Who is to say it is Jovian at all. Maybe there is more than just Amarr, Minmatar, Gallente, Jove and Caldari. The empires are old, but Human kind is older and the Galaxy older still. The Jove are dead, the Nation has destroyed them. That is what I believe, there is more than enough evidence to speculate this is the case, but not enough to consider it the truth. there is enough evidence to speculate all the theories.
Yet we know the Nation comes out of Jovian space using advanced tech synonymous with the Jove.
"All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
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True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
4136
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Posted - 2013.11.16 02:19:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:True Adamance wrote:Void Echo wrote:True Adamance wrote:Adaptable Abyss wrote:It is not a subject I have thought about truthfully. But if I were to make a statement about the Jove it would be that they are to be feared. They possess extremely advanced technology and are more than capable of infiltrating every network we and the various empires possess. CONCORD is just asking for it. They are everywhere in higher security space and so are capsuleers and us. We immortal soldiers are artificial. What if our very bodies and minds were bugged so that we transmitted all of our activities, knowledge and experiences back to the Jove. They don't need contact with us when they have us on a vid-screen. And with what I've experienced alone, if I were the Jove, I wouldn't want contact with the rest of New Eden either. Constant war, strife, conflict, you name it. All are different forms of disease.
Sansha has access to Jovian tech without a doubt. But the question to be asked is whether he took it, or was left it. I don't believe he would have dealings with the Jove, but I do think that the jove could trick him into believing he just happened upon it. The same goes for those that found the cloning technology.
Why the Jove would want us to have it is a big enough question on its own. Who is to say it is Jovian at all. Maybe there is more than just Amarr, Minmatar, Gallente, Jove and Caldari. The empires are old, but Human kind is older and the Galaxy older still. The Jove are dead, the Nation has destroyed them. That is what I believe, there is more than enough evidence to speculate this is the case, but not enough to consider it the truth. there is enough evidence to speculate all the theories. Yet we know the Nation comes out of Jovian space using advanced tech synonymous with the Jove. that's all we know, we don't have any clues saying the jove are dead or they are working together.
The Nation doesn't play well with others.... working together? No. Jove subservient worker slaves, if they still live, more likely.
"All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
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True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
4136
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Posted - 2013.11.16 02:25:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:True Adamance wrote:The Nation doesn't play well with others.... working together? No. Jove subservient worker slaves, if they still live, more likely. still no proof
Then what is the purpose of this discussion?
"All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
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