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Zahle Undt
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.11.07 23:24:00 -
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So I have to admit when I'm wrong and recently in a couple threads I've stated that heavies can still fill their intended role and can still be a force to be reckoned with, however, after playing for a couple hours today clearly the HMG needs to retain its damage buff while CCP takes back the 10% it gave to all other weapons.
Why? Because today in my Adv Minmatar assault with the adv. assault SMG I have out 1 v 1 almost every heavy with HMG I've encountered and when I have lost the 1 on 1 gunfights the heavy would be left with less than 100 HP. I have proficiency 3 and sharp shooter 5 with SMG so it is a beastly little weapon in that Minmatar suit's hands and yes I have used my speed advantage in that suit, but still the SMG shouldn't be able to hang with a HMG for DPS like that.
So yeah heavies need more help than just a EHP buff, you've given them only 2 weapons, 1 primarily anti infantry and 1 primarily anti vehicle and the anti infantry one doesn't seem to be cutting it compared to all the other weapons out there. We don't need a return of the Chromosome 50 kill heavy suit death machines, but we also don't need assaults coming upon a heavy with HMG close range and winning IMO.
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Patrick57
GunFall Mobilization
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.11.07 23:32:00 -
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Everyone knew this.
Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself.
-Mark Twain
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MassiveNine
0uter.Heaven
Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2013.11.07 23:35:00 -
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.11.07 23:48:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:Everyone knew this.
Sigh |
Zahle Undt
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.11.08 00:04:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:Everyone knew this.
Really?
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=120051&find=unread |
Powerh8er
Norwegian Dust514 Corporation
Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.11.08 00:44:00 -
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The biggest guy with the biggest gun cant be a killing machine?  |
Medic 1879
Forsaken Immortals
Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.11.08 00:49:00 -
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Seen a few heavies running dual SMG's today its surprisingly effective but not as effective as the heavy with a shotgun in a LLAV tactic that has sprung up.
TEST signature please help me think of a better one.
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Zahle Undt
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.11.08 00:50:00 -
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Powerh8er wrote:The biggest guy with the biggest gun cant be a killing machine?
They most certainly should be, just not ridiculously so. Like I posted, in Chromosome it was not at all uncommon for heavies to be 50/2 in a match. I was in Tritan Industries which was known as the "Heavy corporation" and I was logibro for many of these heavy kill rampages where my heavy buddy would just wreck people while I repped and kept him or her supplied with ammo. It was practically unbeatable. We don't need those levels of HMG or heavy, but certainly better than what the poor fatboys have got going now. |
Zahle Undt
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.11.08 00:53:00 -
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Medic 1879 wrote:Seen a few heavies running dual SMG's today its surprisingly effective but not as effective as the heavy with a shotgun in a LLAV tactic that has sprung up.
When goofing around I sometimes use a Dren sentinel with dren shotgun, toxin SMG, and a watch saga it is pretty effective for being essentially BPO minus modules and grenade and me having no skill with any of those.
Oh and heya Medic!  |
Galvan Nized
Deep Space Republic
Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.11.08 00:58:00 -
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So an SMG defeated HMGs at close range? That sounds like a strafing issue more than just HMG inadequacy.
Why do people only want to roll back damage on all weapons except theirs? So many other weapons are in the same boat because ARs> everything.
Let's fix ARs and look at the SMG then go from there. |
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Quil Evrything
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.11.08 00:59:00 -
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Zahle Undt wrote:Powerh8er wrote:The biggest guy with the biggest gun cant be a killing machine? They most certainly should be, just not ridiculously so. Like I posted, in Chromosome it was not at all uncommon for heavies to be 50/2 in a match. I was in Tritan Industries which was known as the "Heavy corporation" and I was logibro for many of these heavy kill rampages where my heavy buddy would just wreck people while I repped and kept him or her supplied with ammo. It was practically unbeatable.
Rule of any RPG/MMORPG: "Always kill the white mage first"
If the dumberries just followed that simple rule, your little buddy system would have been toast.
that means things werent really that broken then; people were just stupid.
(that is to say, heavies werent broken. Logis were and still are broken with the amount of tank they can fit :P )
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Zahle Undt
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.11.08 01:03:00 -
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Quil Evrything wrote:Zahle Undt wrote:Powerh8er wrote:The biggest guy with the biggest gun cant be a killing machine? They most certainly should be, just not ridiculously so. Like I posted, in Chromosome it was not at all uncommon for heavies to be 50/2 in a match. I was in Tritan Industries which was known as the "Heavy corporation" and I was logibro for many of these heavy kill rampages where my heavy buddy would just wreck people while I repped and kept him or her supplied with ammo. It was practically unbeatable. Rule of any RPG/MMORPG: "Always kill the white mage first" If the dumberries just followed that simple rule, your little buddy system would have been toast. that means things werent really that broken then; people were just stupid. (that is to say, heavies werent broken. Logis were and still are broken with the amount of tank they can fit :P )
Yes and no, yes I did (and still to this day do) tank my logi suit at the cost of killing effectiveness, but I was also pretty good at hiding behind my heavy and yelling into the mic "They're shooting me! Get 'em, get 'em!" LOL |
Patrick57
GunFall Mobilization
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.11.08 01:05:00 -
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lol This thread started sucking when people started doubting that the HMG sucks [:roll]
Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself.
-Mark Twain
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superjoe360x
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2013.11.08 01:19:00 -
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Zahle Undt wrote:Powerh8er wrote:The biggest guy with the biggest gun cant be a killing machine? They most certainly should be, just not ridiculously so. Like I posted, in Chromosome it was not at all uncommon for heavies to be 50/2 in a match. I was in Tritan Industries which was known as the "Heavy corporation" and I was logibro for many of these heavy kill rampages where my heavy buddy would just wreck people while I repped and kept him or her supplied with ammo. It was practically unbeatable. We don't need those levels of HMG or heavy, but certainly better than what the poor fatboys have got going now.
You guyes at Titan took our first district that we won from us. It was in the first two weeks of PC. We were not prepared to face so many heavies lol. Definitely the heavy corp and you were good at it. |
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