Denak Kalamari
Intaki Liberation Front
Intaki Prosperity Initiative
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Posted - 2013.11.08 14:32:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Let me use a common phrase used often by you to cover up Amarr atrocities.
"You're judging us through your own cultural/moral viewpoints."
Except that these POWs actually exist
And on top of that, where did you get the impression that Amarr slavery is all just brutal and violent abusing? Contrary to popular belief, the Amarr are actually quite nice to their slaves, and have laws that regulate how you can treat them. I may not agree on why they do slavery, but they are not brutal slavers unlike everyone here thinks.
Grahisha of the ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier
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Denak Kalamari
Intaki Liberation Front
Intaki Prosperity Initiative
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Posted - 2013.11.08 22:08:00 -
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Tallen Ellecon wrote:As a Gallente moderate I sympathize with the plight of the Caldari people, our differing philosophies are not worth the bloodshed, but almost every major action taken against the Caldari was done as a response to an extreme Caldari action. Countless time through history the Gallente have wanted nothing more than peace and has been dragged into war by ultra nationalistic forces of the Caldari like the Templis Dragonaurs. The federation even offered countless funds to help the State economically, and has always treated Caldari in their borders with more respect than their counterparts. I have no problem with handing the Caldari back their homeworld either but not if it's done by Caldari terrorists like Tibus Heth, and it leads to the oppression of the Gallente inhabitants. Those in the state who call for peace will always be my friends. Those that choose to butcher innocent Gallente civilians and call for the genocide of my people will never have a place at my negotiation table.
If you follow these madmen I won't hesitate to retaliate with force.
If the actions in these camps are true then I call for immediate justice to be done to the perpetrators, but until this can be proven I think there should be an independent investigation by CONCORD.
The reason why the Caldari seceded from the Federation in the first place was because they weren't happy with their situation. Gallente said no, and with both sides bickering it eventually escalated into a century long war, where everyone who sympathized or supported the Caldari were exiled for treason. These exiled were mostly Intaki, and from them Mordu's Legion and the Intaki Syndicate were born. Ever since then the relationship between Caldari and Gallente have been reserved at best, and for good reason.
Both sides are at fault here, but you must understand that the Caldari have a completely different culture when compared to the Gallente. They don't want outside help, or any outsider interfering with their State, they just want to be left alone. In the State, racial and cultural purity is of utmost importance, even moreso than the Amarr. If you do not accept the Caldari views and completely adopt to them, you are an outsider and treated as such. You are still allowed to live in Caldari territory as a client to the megacorporations, but they make sure you do not influence their culture in any way, the Achur are a good example of this.
The fact is that the Caldari believe in working for the good of the many is a core belief, rather than the Gallente individualistic and personal gain approach. You want to help the Caldari? Convert or stop interfering, simple as that.
And finally, Tibus Heth was a mistake, and has been declared a terrorist by the CEP. Anything he has done could only be considered as the most extreme view of loyalty to the State, which is completely different from the actual Caldari way.
True Adamance wrote:And one of the reasonable and respectable Intaki/Federal aligned mercenaries presents a sound opinion with knowledge of the subjects at hand.
Thank you Denak, but of course as I have said the was the Amarr treat their slaves, what they have done in the past does not impact how the Gallente are currently treating POWs. I was simply clearing up false information, I can't stand ignorant people spouting out things they have no clue about.
Speaking of which, I'm still not Gallente or Federal aligned. Get it right.
Grahisha of the ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier
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