DUST Search - An idea to help Scouts

KING CHECKMATE wrote:

Protocake JR wrote:

I'm just going to go ahead and say gameplay/balance>lore.

TRUE

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But, that being said, an arbitrary damage bonus from getting shot in the back is not a good idea. All the scout/light suits need is an increase in speed so that it can take advantage of it's superior strafe and smaller hitbox.

POINTLESS. Even if they had a movement speed of 10 by default,hit detection is so powerful you would still get hit and dropped in a matter of seconds.

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If you catch an enemy unaware from behind (which is already a big advantage), and you still cannot kill him, then you have bigger problems than just the light suit deficiencies.

Example:
GÖªMe playing random Pub match
GÖªRunning ADV scout suit
GÖª1 Dude in the city, SVER TB proto stomper. B-F.
GÖªI sneak behind him, Shoot my CRG-3. , Then while hes turning around, AGAIN. (thats 2,Minimum Range Shots with a SHOTGUN and 1 Cx Daamge mod), he turns around, Spray duvolle, 3 shots im dead.
GÖªRepeat process 3 times. All end up the same.
GÖªChange fit, Proto Mk.0 With Carthum (my best scout fit, Tanked and profile dampened)
GÖª Sneak behind him, start shooting, again he turns around and this time, he shoots me with a Proto Shotgun.

You see, when you are running a 250 scout and FAIL to kill an enemy from behind (The case of our friend here with a 1100 Cal Logi suit) , its usually a Death sentence, not my lack of skill.


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Protocake JR Spyders Inc. 909	Posted - 2013.11.07 02:52:00 - [1] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: There would need to be some sort of reason why there's a bonus to killing from behind. Like how Eve has an explanation of why you can see the outside of your ship, there needs to be an explanation of why killing from behind is so important. Maybe it could be something like some important part of the dropsuit is in the back, and it can be deactivated by close range shooting it? Just an idea :P I'm just going to go ahead and say gameplay/balance>lore. But, that being said, an arbitrary damage bonus from getting shot in the back is not a good idea. All the scout/light suits need is an increase in speed so that it can take advantage of it's superior strafe and smaller hitbox. If you catch an enemy unaware from behind (which is already a big advantage), and you still cannot kill him, then you have bigger problems than just the light suit deficiencies.
Protocake JR Spyders Inc. 909	Posted - 2013.11.07 03:26:00 - [2] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Protocake JR wrote: I'm just going to go ahead and say gameplay/balance>lore. TRUE Quote: But, that being said, an arbitrary damage bonus from getting shot in the back is not a good idea. All the scout/light suits need is an increase in speed so that it can take advantage of it's superior strafe and smaller hitbox. POINTLESS. Even if they had a movement speed of 10 by default,hit detection is so powerful you would still get hit and dropped in a matter of seconds. Quote: If you catch an enemy unaware from behind (which is already a big advantage), and you still cannot kill him, then you have bigger problems than just the light suit deficiencies. Example: GÖªMe playing random Pub match GÖªRunning ADV scout suit GÖª1 Dude in the city, SVER TB proto stomper. B-F. GÖªI sneak behind him, Shoot my CRG-3. , Then while hes turning around, AGAIN. (thats 2,Minimum Range Shots with a SHOTGUN and 1 Cx Daamge mod), he turns around, Spray duvolle, 3 shots im dead. GÖªRepeat process 3 times. All end up the same. GÖªChange fit, Proto Mk.0 With Carthum (my best scout fit, Tanked and profile dampened) GÖª Sneak behind him, start shooting, again he turns around and this time, he shoots me with a Proto Shotgun. You see, when you are running a 250 scout and FAIL to kill an enemy from behind (The case of our friend here with a 1100 Cal Logi suit) , its usually a Death sentence, not my lack of skill. When it comes to CQC, you should of had the upper hand, especially in a light frame suit. I've never played with or against you so I cannot really say if it's your skill that is causing you issues. How well do you strafe? If you are consistently getting one shot by SG's in a scout suit, that leads me to believe that you need to improve your strafing. It almost always takes shotgunners 3-4 shot to take me down when i'm strafing in a slow ass Amarr medium suit, IF they take me down. Go ask Roner General or Djinn Marauder how to shotgun in a scout.