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8213
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Posted - 2013.11.07 01:08:00 -
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Game after game, I am getting beat out by SMGs and HMGs at 60m+ This isn't a just a one game fluke, its been every game since 1.6.
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KING CHECKMATE
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
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Posted - 2013.11.07 01:12:00 -
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8213 wrote:Game after game, I am getting beat out by SMGs and HMGs at 60m+ This isn't a just a one game fluke, its been every game since 1.6.
I want what you are smoking.
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The dark cloud
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2013.11.07 01:18:00 -
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sure the HMG can hit you at 60 meters. But you do like 1-3HP per hit which is nothing. So it would take 400 bullets to take down a average dropsuit at that range.
I shall show you a world, a world which you cant imagine, a world full off butthurt n00bs at the other end of my gun
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8213
Grade No.2
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Posted - 2013.11.07 01:21:00 -
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The dark cloud wrote:sure the HMG can hit you at 60 meters. But you do like 1-3HP per hit which is nothing. So it would take 400 bullets to take down a average dropsuit at that range.
Im getting dropped in a second and getting dealt 500 damage upon death... The same with SMGs... |
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TEMPL2R 0NE
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.11.07 01:24:00 -
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Its the Thale HMG, everyone has one ![Cool](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_cool.png)
"Dust among solar wind"
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Jacques Cayton II
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
74
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Posted - 2013.11.07 01:27:00 -
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Hmg needs a range buff but not necessarily range but dispersion and a 10 meter range increase |
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Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
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Posted - 2013.11.07 01:28:00 -
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So are you just standing still or what Its actually sad that I have to ask this and that I see it happen a lot, guys who just stand still out in the open because they are at a distance and then these guys complain about getting killed by an AR or something at 40+ meters
Im not drunk, the planet just happens to be especially wobbly today.
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Jacques Cayton II
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
74
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Posted - 2013.11.07 01:43:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:So are you just standing still or what Its actually sad that I have to ask this and that I see it happen a lot, guys who just stand still out in the open because they are at a distance and then these guys complain about getting killed by an AR or something at 40+ meters Just to let you know the hmg can't shot past 40m without standing still and crouching your point is invalid |
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Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.11.07 01:57:00 -
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8213 wrote:Game after game, I am getting beat out by SMGs and HMGs at 60m+ This isn't a just a one game fluke, its been every game since 1.6.
the SMG's have way more range now
yesterday headshot with SMG at 54m and I used that same m209 to strip both his armor and shield
SOONGäó
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8213
Grade No.2
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Posted - 2013.11.07 03:04:00 -
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We are being lied to, as usual. Because that's all CCP knows how to do well.
Range WAS buffed on all weapons.
Unless its the "hit detection"/ aim assist BS they think they know how to work...
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Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.11.07 03:50:00 -
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8213 wrote:We are being lied to, as usual. Because that's all CCP knows how to do well.
Range WAS buffed on all weapons.
Unless its the "hit detection"/ aim assist BS they think they know how to work...
IMO they increased the size of hitboxes
SOONGäó
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1958
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Posted - 2013.11.07 03:52:00 -
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XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO wrote:8213 wrote:We are being lied to, as usual. Because that's all CCP knows how to do well.
Range WAS buffed on all weapons.
Unless its the "hit detection"/ aim assist BS they think they know how to work...
IMO they increased the size of hitboxes ^this it's sure as hell not hit detection improvement, my blades would be hitting more often if it was.
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja.
Forum Warrior level 1
Fix my class already
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Cosgar
ParagonX
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Posted - 2013.11.07 03:59:00 -
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I would say it might have been an assault HMG, but you're more likely to be tickled to death by that thing. I have some friends that use the freedom, but it's way to expensive for pubs.
I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
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Rusty Shallows
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Posted - 2013.11.07 04:03:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:8213 wrote:Game after game, I am getting beat out by SMGs and HMGs at 60m+ This isn't a just a one game fluke, its been every game since 1.6.
I want what you are smoking. Remember one toke then pass to the left.
"She may not be Miss Right but she'll do right now," Thank you SR-71
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Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
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Posted - 2013.11.07 04:04:00 -
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I want a death beam to shoot from my helmet but that'll never happen :(
"The trick to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources..." Albert Einstein
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8213
Grade No.2
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Posted - 2013.11.07 10:02:00 -
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Oh well, it doesn't matter. I only put it back on to test the "improved shotgun hit detection"...
Game still doesn't work more than it does. Uninstalled... AGAIN. |
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Kasote Denzara
A Vulture
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Posted - 2013.11.07 10:24:00 -
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Maybe it was The Little HMG That Could.
"I think I can, I think I can, I think I can..."
I go commando in my Commando. Feels good, man.
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8213
Grade No.2
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Posted - 2013.11.07 10:39:00 -
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Kasote Denzara wrote:Maybe it was The Little HMG That Could.
"I think I can, I think I can, I think I can..."
Its not a one time event that I'm venting about. Even Scrambler Pistols are knocking me dead at 60m (and no, I'm not getting headshotted) What the heck is a pistol firing 60m for in the first place?
More and more skill has been taken out of this game... Instead of actually employing tactics, its just cheap exploitation and noob catering. |
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Shadow heat
Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.11.07 11:23:00 -
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So this is good, right ? Open the gameplay a bit instead of compressing everything to CQC. We shouldn't be playing this game in CQC all the time, when the maps are so huge. |
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8213
Grade No.2
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Posted - 2013.11.07 11:26:00 -
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Shadow heat wrote:So this is good, right ? Open the gameplay a bit instead of compressing everything to CQC. We shouldn't be playing this game in CQC all the time, when the maps are so huge.
Yeah.. if we were told about it, since after we've adapted to a certain playstyle to fit the game for the last 2 years |
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Shadow heat
Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic
144
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Posted - 2013.11.07 11:56:00 -
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8213 wrote:Shadow heat wrote:So this is good, right ? Open the gameplay a bit instead of compressing everything to CQC. We shouldn't be playing this game in CQC all the time, when the maps are so huge. Yeah.. if we were told about it, since after we've adapted to a certain playstyle to fit the game for the last 2 years
I don't blame CCP for doing things without telling us, feedback can either be productive or counterproductive. In the case of gameplay mechanics the feedback should be restricted only to data, and not to players that have not idea about game development. |
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The Robot Devil
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.11.07 12:11:00 -
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8213 wrote:Game after game, I am getting beat out by SMGs and HMGs at 60m+ This isn't a just a one game fluke, its been every game since 1.6.
I had the same problem with SMGs the other day. Each team was in a group and separated by a farther than CQC range and I was being killed with SMGs. It was odd, the entire team on the other side had SMGs and LRs I kept dying to SMGs. I closed tha gab by flanking and a nova knifer got me. The ranges in this game are jacked up and need to looked at.
Dr. Gonzo: I hate to say this, but this place is getting to me. I think I'm getting the Fear.
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