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MySpaceTom
Xer Cloud Consortium
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Posted - 2013.11.06 22:45:00 -
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We wanted to give up a heads up that we are going to be putting the Corp Wallet withdraw system through its paces in a new experimental corp called Xer Cloud Constortium.
All members of the corporation have director privledges and open access to the wallet, thus creating an environment where people may rapidly and frequently compete to 'steal' the wallet's contents in a short span of time. We want to prepare for the possibility of concurrent withdraw requests and the impact that may have upon the system.
Do you have a time dialation system for the wallet?
Thank you for you time and consideration.
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
205
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Posted - 2013.11.06 22:46:00 -
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Thanks Tom.
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Jadu Wen
Xer Cloud Consortium
125
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Posted - 2013.11.06 22:47:00 -
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MySpaceTom wrote:We wanted to give up a heads up that we are going to be putting the Corp Wallet withdraw system through its paces in a new experimental corp called Xer Cloud Constortium. All members of the corporation have director privledges and open access to the wallet, thus creating an environment where people may rapidly and frequently compete to 'steal' the wallet's contents in a short span of time. We want to prepare for the possibility of concurrent withdraw requests and the impact that may have upon the system. Do you have a time dialation system for the wallet? Thank you for you time and consideration.
Jita Wallet. That's all I've got to say.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance
4672
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Posted - 2013.11.06 22:49:00 -
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This is something that actually interests me.
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Nguruthos IX
PEN 15 CLUB
2109
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Posted - 2013.11.06 22:49:00 -
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Is this some weird fishing for answers based on that incomprehensible post from the Japanese corp about trying to exploit free ISK by desynchronizing the wallet withdraw mechanics via mass requests?
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Fire of Prometheus
DUST University Ivy League
1465
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Posted - 2013.11.06 22:49:00 -
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One of you guys want to nab me some cash? (Perhaps 20 mil?)
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MySpaceTom
Xer Cloud Consortium
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Posted - 2013.11.06 22:53:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:This is something that actually interests me. New Eden Players--putting CCP's game mechanics through unexpected ringers since 2003.
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Asirius Medaius
630
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Posted - 2013.11.06 22:53:00 -
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MySpaceTom wrote:We wanted to give up a heads up that we are going to be putting the Corp Wallet withdraw system through its paces in a new experimental corp called Xer Cloud Constortium. All members of the corporation have director privledges and open access to the wallet, thus creating an environment where people may rapidly and frequently compete to 'steal' the wallet's contents in a short span of time. We want to prepare for the possibility of concurrent withdraw requests and the impact that may have upon the system. Do you have a time dialation system for the wallet? Thank you for you time and consideration.
I want to thank people like you who take initiative to test game mechanics integrity by pushing it to its limits (in this case, the large span of unique requests on a wallet; this should test those supercomputer servers they have for Dust 514). It's good that we test things like this before a critical event in the future may prove fatal -- where here, if an error is found, it's not going to be a catastrophe, since the wallet being emptied is practically for fun (i.e.: not too important).
This is good testing of the mechanics of the game, and I hope that more people do things such as this (I also know that there are a lot of underground establishments amongst the players that are also harboring some sort of activity that may push the limits of the game mechanics... or even politics).
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bear90211
Nyain San Proficiency V.
48
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Posted - 2013.11.06 22:54:00 -
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also, if all of them qued to empty the wallet at the same time, would it duplicate ISK? this was something that i brought up that could generate trillions of ISK if it works.
Heavies are still squishy to my AR, just 5 rounds into them extra ;D
hmm, I want taco's...
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
205
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Posted - 2013.11.06 22:55:00 -
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MySpaceTom wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:This is something that actually interests me. New Eden Players--putting CCP's game mechanics through unexpected ringers since 2003. Why start at 2003? Go back even farther with H+ªttuspil.
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
205
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Posted - 2013.11.06 22:59:00 -
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Asirius Medaius wrote:MySpaceTom wrote:We wanted to give up a heads up that we are going to be putting the Corp Wallet withdraw system through its paces in a new experimental corp called Xer Cloud Constortium. All members of the corporation have director privledges and open access to the wallet, thus creating an environment where people may rapidly and frequently compete to 'steal' the wallet's contents in a short span of time. We want to prepare for the possibility of concurrent withdraw requests and the impact that may have upon the system. Do you have a time dialation system for the wallet? Thank you for you time and consideration. I want to thank people like you who take initiative to test game mechanics integrity by pushing it to its limits (in this case, the large span of unique requests on a wallet; this should test those supercomputer servers they have for Dust 514). It's good that we test things like this before a critical event in the future may prove fatal -- where here, if an error is found, it's not going to be a catastrophe, since the wallet being emptied is practically for fun (i.e.: not too important). This is good testing of the mechanics of the game, and I hope that more people do things such as this (I also know that there are a lot of underground establishments amongst the players that are also harboring some sort of activity that may push the limits of the game mechanics... or even politics). We agreed that we might as well be open about this experiment. I might take a little while to fully bring to fruition with this corp at least because I can only currently cover about 40 mercs with my current skills. I plan to boost that up considerably with the tripple SP weekend.
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
205
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Posted - 2013.11.06 23:01:00 -
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bear90211 wrote:also, if all of them qued to empty the wallet at the same time, would it duplicate ISK? this was something that i brought up that could generate trillions of ISK if it works. What do you want to do if it 'does' work? Take that trillion isk as a bug tester finders fee?
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bear90211
Nyain San Proficiency V.
51
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Posted - 2013.11.06 23:02:00 -
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Jadek Menaheim wrote:bear90211 wrote:also, if all of them qued to empty the wallet at the same time, would it duplicate ISK? this was something that i brought up that could generate trillions of ISK if it works. What do you want to do if it 'does' work? Take that trillion isk as a bug tester finders fee? no, id dupe it again then take a healthy bit, 500bill or so
Heavies are still squishy to my AR, just 5 rounds into them extra ;D
hmm, I want taco's...
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MySpaceTom
Xer Cloud Consortium
29
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Posted - 2013.11.06 23:03:00 -
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Jadek Menaheim wrote:bear90211 wrote:also, if all of them qued to empty the wallet at the same time, would it duplicate ISK? this was something that i brought up that could generate trillions of ISK if it works. What do you want to do if it 'does' work? Take that trillion isk as a bug tester finders fee? Excuse me while I take that finders fee and squish some more bugs with falling dropships
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bear90211
Nyain San Proficiency V.
51
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Posted - 2013.11.06 23:04:00 -
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and your skill, my alt can hold around 450 ATM, you can make it the CEO while you build your skills.
Heavies are still squishy to my AR, just 5 rounds into them extra ;D
hmm, I want taco's...
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
205
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Posted - 2013.11.06 23:04:00 -
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bear90211 wrote:Jadek Menaheim wrote:bear90211 wrote:also, if all of them qued to empty the wallet at the same time, would it duplicate ISK? this was something that i brought up that could generate trillions of ISK if it works. What do you want to do if it 'does' work? Take that trillion isk as a bug tester finders fee? no, id dupe it again then take a healthy bit, 500bill or so Like a gentleman scumbag.
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bear90211
Nyain San Proficiency V.
51
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Posted - 2013.11.06 23:06:00 -
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Jadek Menaheim wrote:bear90211 wrote:Jadek Menaheim wrote:bear90211 wrote:also, if all of them qued to empty the wallet at the same time, would it duplicate ISK? this was something that i brought up that could generate trillions of ISK if it works. What do you want to do if it 'does' work? Take that trillion isk as a bug tester finders fee? no, id dupe it again then take a healthy bit, 500bill or so Like a gentleman scumbag. yup! at least its less than a trill, if i had that id run enforcer tanks 24/7
Heavies are still squishy to my AR, just 5 rounds into them extra ;D
hmm, I want taco's...
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
205
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Posted - 2013.11.06 23:10:00 -
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bear90211 wrote:yup! at least its less than a trill, if i had that id run enforcer tanks 24/7 This is the first thing that came to mind.
Putting Tanks on Tanks on Tanks all day.
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bear90211
Nyain San Proficiency V.
51
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Posted - 2013.11.06 23:19:00 -
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LOL that friggin funny! i bet my payloads bigger
Heavies are still squishy to my AR, just 5 rounds into them extra ;D
hmm, I want taco's...
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
205
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Posted - 2013.11.06 23:20:00 -
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bear90211 wrote:and your skill, my alt can hold around 450 ATM, you can make it the CEO while you build your skills. I don't think we need to expand that quickly. The initial focus of XerCC corp development is to filter out non-active, non contributing members in order to keep members who run matches on matches on matches. Initially a lot of people are going to be throwing their forgettable alts at the corp. We need a good week to two weeks before any major expansion.
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bear90211
Nyain San Proficiency V.
52
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Posted - 2013.11.06 23:23:00 -
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Jadek Menaheim wrote:bear90211 wrote:and your skill, my alt can hold around 450 ATM, you can make it the CEO while you build your skills. I don't think we need to expand that quickly. The initial focus of XerCC corp development is to filter out non-active, non contributing members in order to keep members who run matches on matches on matches. Initially a lot of people are going to be throwing their forgettable alts at the corp. We need a good week to two weeks before any major expansion. yes, but if my idea works, everyone becomes TCO's and TLO's, right? so we can que the ISK dupe at the same time and give everyone what they want, :D but id do this with my alt, it would still be gaining a boatload of ISK and be a successful corp, again, i will do this with my alt.
Heavies are still squishy to my AR, just 5 rounds into them extra ;D
hmm, I want taco's...
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
205
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Posted - 2013.11.06 23:27:00 -
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bear90211 wrote:Jadek Menaheim wrote:bear90211 wrote:and your skill, my alt can hold around 450 ATM, you can make it the CEO while you build your skills. I don't think we need to expand that quickly. The initial focus of XerCC corp development is to filter out non-active, non contributing members in order to keep members who run matches on matches on matches. Initially a lot of people are going to be throwing their forgettable alts at the corp. We need a good week to two weeks before any major expansion. yes, but if my idea works, everyone becomes TCO's and TLO's, right? so we can que the ISK dupe at the same time and give everyone what they want, :D but id do this with my alt, it would still be gaining a boatload of ISK and be a successful corp, again, i will do this with my alt. CCP would never let you keep free isk gained that way. Just saying. Let's see how things run on a small scale a build up progressively with that.
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MySpaceTom
Xer Cloud Consortium
30
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Posted - 2013.11.06 23:30:00 -
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Plus, you should be fine to roll on SP if CCP does a reallotment of vehicle skills with 1.7. You told me you have a million or two invested in vehicles.
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
205
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Posted - 2013.11.06 23:31:00 -
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MySpaceTom wrote:Plus, you should be fine to roll on SP if CCP does a reallotment of vehicle skills with 1.7. You told me you have a million or two invested in vehicles. Yep, should be covered on SP when that time comes. 1.7 is going to be a glorious expansion.
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
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Posted - 2013.11.07 04:46:00 -
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Well, I've identified one glaring hiccup in how the wallet system works. The corp wallet does not update and remain current with 'your' taxes after any number of battles fought during 'your' play session. You must exit the game and re-log in for the changes to be visible to you, thus making any withdraws valid. However, it appears any other player with access to the corp wallet can withdraw those funds without difficultly.
tldr: your screen says zero isk, anyone else sees current earnings besides their own.
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Jadu Wen
Xer Cloud Consortium
128
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Posted - 2013.11.07 04:47:00 -
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Requesting GM to move this thread to the technical feedback section.
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
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Posted - 2013.11.07 07:29:00 -
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Calling all international players. We need your help to test the latency and server interaction of concurrent wallet and corp actions. Please send your applications to any member of the Xer Cloud Consortium (XERCC). Your help in this testing initiative is appreciated.
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