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DeadlyAztec11
Gallente Federation
2383
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Posted - 2013.11.06 22:43:00 -
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So I finally decided to use armor plates and a 3% damage mod(the most underrated module) on a Gallante scout fit.
Surprisingly good. Pair it with a high damage weapon like the TAR or Scrambler Rifle and it is fairly easy to take down enemy suits by sneaking up and shooting them in the head. Also, Nova Knives for snipers, turret gunners, hackers, forge gunners, people waiting for vehicles and for finishing up when you run dry in your gun.
Never new that tanking a scout suit was this viable. And it is better than assault suits for flanking (the main use) because the enemy won't notice you until you have already put 4 shots in the side of their skull. Also makes running away a very viable option.
Heck, I'm getting the same if not BETTER results than with assault suits.
Aztec is pleased
Madness is the emergency exit. You can just step outside, and close the door on all those dreadful things that happened.
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Knight Soiaire
R 0 N 1 N
3095
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Posted - 2013.11.06 22:44:00 -
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Its definitely an option.
But it isn't the reason I specced into Scouts.
Raffle draw will be in 2-3 days
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1917
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Posted - 2013.11.06 22:46:00 -
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Minja is sad, impressed, and jealous by this post.
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Roner General
Ancient Exiles
197
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Posted - 2013.11.06 22:46:00 -
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yup i do the same. 700 armor and 77 shields or my 743 and 100 shields with proto shotty soon to be more op |
Knight Soiaire
R 0 N 1 N
3095
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Posted - 2013.11.06 22:48:00 -
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Roner General wrote:yup i do the same. 700 armor and 77 shields or my 743 and 100 shields with proto shotty soon to be more op
Whats your Movement / Sprint speed at?
Raffle draw will be in 2-3 days
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KING CHECKMATE
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
2267
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Posted - 2013.11.06 22:51:00 -
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Knight Soiaire wrote:Its definitely an option.
But it isn't the reason I specced into Scouts.
THIS.
My BEST suit is a Minmatar Proto with 500 HP , a Carthum ARSC , Compact nanos,210 stamina and 8.15 sprint speed and 30 DB Scan profile.
Sounds good right? well it is (except the fact that costs around 160k) BUT it is good at FLANKING. Its fulfilling an ASSAULT job effectivley, but i cant still do scout stuff:like avoiding proto scanners, hacking faster,using CQ weapons very effectivley, having small hitbox there by making the enemy miss more , putting up uplinks in hard to reach places, SCOUTING with active scanners,ETC.....
Its good but im using a scout as a fast assault.
I want to be a REAL scout.
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Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
468
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Posted - 2013.11.06 22:56:00 -
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been tanking my scout since forever
I remember the first time I told some people about this they acted like it was forbidden
now I tell you this
only use 1 complex armor plate on your gallente
and run 3 complex armor reps (18.75hp)
use whatever you want in the high and whatever weapon/equipment layout you want
this build is for getting in and killing 2-3 enemy's while taking damage
its also great for 1vs1 1vs2 gunfights with SCR/AR
you duck behind a hill or wall and your armor is right back to 100%
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DeadlyAztec11
Gallente Federation
2384
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Posted - 2013.11.06 23:00:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Knight Soiaire wrote:Its definitely an option.
But it isn't the reason I specced into Scouts. THIS. My BEST suit is a Minmatar Proto with 500 HP , a Carthum ARSC , Compact nanos,210 stamina and 8.15 sprint speed and 30 DB Scan profile.Sounds good right?well it is (except the fact that costs around 160k) BUT it is good at FLANKING. Its fulfilling an ASSAULT job effectivley, but i cant still do scout stuff:like avoiding proto scanners, hacking faster,using CQ weapons very effectivley, having small hitbox there by making the enemy miss more , putting up uplinks in hard to reach places, SCOUTING with active scanners,ETC..... Its good but im using a scout as a fast assault. I want to be a REAL scout. What defines a 'real' scout? What do they have to do?
I thought it was mostly get behind enemy lines and cause havo k(with a k because I'm bad lol).
Madness is the emergency exit. You can just step outside, and close the door on all those dreadful things that happened.
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KING CHECKMATE
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
2267
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Posted - 2013.11.06 23:06:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Knight Soiaire wrote:Its definitely an option.
But it isn't the reason I specced into Scouts. THIS. My BEST suit is a Minmatar Proto with 500 HP , a Carthum ARSC , Compact nanos,210 stamina and 8.15 sprint speed and 30 DB Scan profile.Sounds good right?well it is (except the fact that costs around 160k) BUT it is good at FLANKING. Its fulfilling an ASSAULT job effectivley, but i cant still do scout stuff:like avoiding proto scanners, hacking faster,using CQ weapons very effectivley, having small hitbox there by making the enemy miss more , putting up uplinks in hard to reach places, SCOUTING with active scanners,ETC..... Its good but im using a scout as a fast assault. I want to be a REAL scout. What defines a 'real' scout? What do they have to do? I thought it was mostly get behind enemy lines and cause havo k(with a k because I'm bad lol).
I explained it in that post you quoted of me .
Reading comprehension -1
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DeadlyAztec11
Gallente Federation
2385
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Posted - 2013.11.06 23:09:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Knight Soiaire wrote:Its definitely an option.
But it isn't the reason I specced into Scouts. THIS. My BEST suit is a Minmatar Proto with 500 HP , a Carthum ARSC , Compact nanos,210 stamina and 8.15 sprint speed and 30 DB Scan profile.Sounds good right?well it is (except the fact that costs around 160k) BUT it is good at FLANKING. Its fulfilling an ASSAULT job effectivley, but i cant still do scout stuff:like avoiding proto scanners, hacking faster,using CQ weapons very effectivley, having small hitbox there by making the enemy miss more , putting up uplinks in hard to reach places, SCOUTING with active scanners,ETC..... Its good but im using a scout as a fast assault. I want to be a REAL scout. What defines a 'real' scout? What do they have to do? I thought it was mostly get behind enemy lines and cause havo k(with a k because I'm bad lol). I explained it in that post you quoted of me .Reading comprehension -1 My bad, the way you typed it I thought you were saying that scouts are not supposed to be tanked. And that you wanted to be a scout by not tanking.
Again, my bad.
Madness is the emergency exit. You can just step outside, and close the door on all those dreadful things that happened.
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True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
3932
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Posted - 2013.11.06 23:13:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:So I finally decided to use armor plates and a 3% damage mod(the most underrated module) on a Gallante scout fit. Surprisingly good. Pair it with a high damage weapon like the TAR or Scrambler Rifle and it is fairly easy to take down enemy suits by sneaking up and shooting them in the head. Also, Nova Knives for snipers, turret gunners, hackers, forge gunners, people waiting for vehicles and for finishing up when you run dry in your gun. Never new that tanking a scout suit was this viable. And it is better than assault suits for flanking (the main use) because the enemy won't notice you until you have already put 4 shots in the side of their skull. Also makes running away a very viable option. I'm doing this game like Splinter Cell. I work my way in carefully, gracefully, silently. Playing stealthy is healthy. I rack up 3-4 Knive/melee kills, thenwhen I'm noticed I get out the TAR and grenades; I go loud. Then I ex-fill using parkour. Heck, I'm getting the same if not BETTER results than with assault suits. Aztec is pleased Scouts are cool aren't they.
Aero and I were running scouts with dual AScP a few weeks back. The lols we got and the rages we caused was epic.
However our scouts aren't bricked, we sit behind the enemy lines in their back field ninjaing and defending from the shadows their home letters or securing CRU and installations.
"All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
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OZAROW
WarRavens League of Infamy
1071
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Posted - 2013.11.06 23:17:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:Minja is sad, impressed, and jealous by this post.
Dude last night lol I took the proto minja an did the same as op, check it
Mko 3x complex damage mods 2x toxin smg proficiency 4 M1 Stable scanner Complex plate Basic armor rep
Adv gallente scout Two toxins 2 complex damage Scanner M1 Complex armor Basic reactive
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Cyrius Li-Moody
The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR.
1650
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Posted - 2013.11.06 23:45:00 -
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I run a plate sometimes but I don't like it even though it saves me often. :(
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Jackof All-Trades
The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine
215
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Posted - 2013.11.06 23:50:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:So I finally decided to use armor plates and a 3% damage mod(the most underrated module) on a Gallante scout fit. Surprisingly good. Pair it with a high damage weapon like the TAR or Scrambler Rifle and it is fairly easy to take down enemy suits by sneaking up and shooting them in the head. Also, Nova Knives for snipers, turret gunners, hackers, forge gunners, people waiting for vehicles and for finishing up when you run dry in your gun. Never new that tanking a scout suit was this viable. And it is better than assault suits for flanking (the main use) because the enemy won't notice you until you have already put 4 shots in the side of their skull. Also makes running away a very viable option. I'm doing this game like Splinter Cell. I work my way in carefully, gracefully, silently. Playing stealthy is healthy. I rack up 3-4 Knive/melee kills, thenwhen I'm noticed I get out the TAR and grenades; I go loud. Then I ex-fill using parkour. Heck, I'm getting the same if not BETTER results than with assault suits. Aztec is pleased The whole point of DUST is variation. You could shield tank a Gallente if you want, just don't expect it to work. The best is two complex armour plates paired with a complex kinetic catalyser and a complex rep. Then fit the weapon of choice.
Of course, that's the scout gk.0, so have fun getting there! |
Satori Particle
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
19
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Posted - 2013.11.07 00:31:00 -
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Combat Scouts are fun. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
7428
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Posted - 2013.11.07 00:38:00 -
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Looks at Minmatar scout...
/cry
I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
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DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles
2628
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Posted - 2013.11.07 00:41:00 -
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Kinda sad that good scout fits are tanking with EHP. MIT aswell be an assault :/
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
1372
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Posted - 2013.11.07 00:41:00 -
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First thing I wanna say is "True!"
Second thing is, I still won't do it...just feels...wrong. |
OZAROW
WarRavens League of Infamy
1072
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Posted - 2013.11.07 00:44:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:Kinda sad that good scout fits are tanking with EHP. MIT aswell be an assault :/ Lol seen you in a ambush last night with 300+ shields and 232 armor an a DUV AR whooping ace, so that's what gave me the idea |
Oswald Rehnquist
470
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Posted - 2013.11.07 00:51:00 -
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High DPS auto fire and brick tanking is the best build for any suit right now, but you do realize now that is literally everyone's play style, as it is the only play style that works.
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gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder.
4053
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Posted - 2013.11.07 00:54:00 -
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something all scout users should watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltmMJntSfQI
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
684
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Posted - 2013.11.07 01:04:00 -
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I'll still OHKO you with an MD.
You shouldn't be too proud of yourself
There there Mr. Scout and Ms. Heavy, don't cry
You'll still be useful in my eyes
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KING CHECKMATE
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
2269
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Posted - 2013.11.07 01:09:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Looks at Minmatar scout...
/cry
Actually the Minmatar scouts is better fitted to be a combat scout than the gallente. Is shield based with a shield regen rate of 40 per sec. My Mk.0 Has 336 shields and 174 armor, those 336 shields are ALAWAYS back...
The Gal scout is better fitted for Profile Dampening tank and E-war..
This of course, is MY OPINION.... :3
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DeadlyAztec11
Gallente Federation
2393
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Posted - 2013.11.07 01:40:00 -
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Atiim wrote:I'll still OHKO you with an MD.
You shouldn't be too proud of yourself Yeah, but that will happen in any armor tanked suit. So the argument is invalid.
Madness is the emergency exit. You can just step outside, and close the door on all those dreadful things that happened.
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XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
478
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Posted - 2013.11.07 01:50:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Cosgar wrote:Looks at Minmatar scout...
/cry Actually the Minmatar scouts is better fitted to be a combat scout than the gallente. Is shield based with a shield regen rate of 40 per sec. My Mk.0 Has 336 shields and 174 armor, those 336 shields are ALAWAYS back... The Gal scout is better fitted for Profile Dampening tank and E-war.. This of course, is MY OPINION.... :3 this is half true
1 complex plate brings gallente to 311 armor 3 complex reps brings repairs to 18.75 a sec throw a complex extender on there (I have core to lvl4 so I get 157 shield)
now with this set up I get 468 total hp but the kicker is armor has no delay in regen so if I get my shield stripped and they take 50% or more of my armor in a gun fight my shield has a delay of 8 seconds I believe (correct me if im wrong) so with this set up my armor regenerates before my shield does
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Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
2300
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Posted - 2013.11.07 01:50:00 -
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Such a shame guys are trying to say you arent a real scout because your style is different from theirs, you see the same BS from tankers and heavies
Anyway if it works for you then run it,I had some success as a quick in and out tanked min scout
Im not drunk, the planet just happens to be especially wobbly today.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
688
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Posted - 2013.11.07 01:51:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:Such a shame guys are trying to say you arent a real scout because your style is different from theirs, you see the same BS from tankers and heavies
Anyway if it works for you then run it,I had some success as a quick in and out tanked min scout Amen.
The same can be said about logistics. If you aren't in the back repping everyone then you aren't a true logi
There there Mr. Scout and Ms. Heavy, don't cry
You'll still be useful in my eyes
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KING CHECKMATE
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
2272
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Posted - 2013.11.07 01:57:00 -
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XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO wrote: this is half true
1 complex plate brings gallente to 311 armor 3 complex reps brings repairs to 18.75 a sec throw a complex extender on there (I have core to lvl4 so I get 157 shield)
now with this set up I get 468 total hp but the kicker is armor has no delay in regen so if I get my shield stripped and they take 50% or more of my armor in a gun fight my shield has a delay of 8 seconds I believe (correct me if im wrong) so with this set up my armor regenerates before my shield does
This is true. But in change im Profile DAmpned to everything BUT proto scanners and faster than you.
Mk.0 Cx Shield x3 Basic Armor plates Prof Damner Carthum ASCR Compact nanos Locus Nades
-340 shield -170 Armor -8.15+ SPeed -30db
I mean im sure both of our fits are awesome in their own way,but who are we kidding, a Minmatar logi would do this a lot better XD
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Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
697
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Posted - 2013.11.07 02:03:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:So I finally decided to use armor plates and a 3% damage mod(the most underrated module) on a Gallante scout fit. Surprisingly good. Pair it with a high damage weapon like the TAR or Scrambler Rifle and it is fairly easy to take down enemy suits by sneaking up and shooting them in the head. Also, Nova Knives for snipers, turret gunners, hackers, forge gunners, people waiting for vehicles and for finishing up when you run dry in your gun. Never new that tanking a scout suit was this viable. And it is better than assault suits for flanking (the main use) because the enemy won't notice you until you have already put 4 shots in the side of their skull. Also makes running away a very viable option. I'm doing this game like Splinter Cell. I work my way in carefully, gracefully, silently. Playing stealthy is healthy. I rack up 3-4 Knive/melee kills, thenwhen I'm noticed I get out the TAR and grenades; I go loud. Then I ex-fill using parkour. Heck, I'm getting the same if not BETTER results than with assault suits. Aztec is pleased
Yep, I usually do tank my proto light suit. It's good for sniping when a counter sniper gets a shot on you. You can usually survive the first shot and dodge to cover.
It's also good paired with a tac AR for sharpshooter work and as a REAL commando with dual SMG fun.
You can still jump around well enough in a light suit.
If the pen is mightier than the sword, in a duel I'll let you have the pen!
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Niuvo
NECROM0NGERS
732
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Posted - 2013.11.07 04:43:00 -
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deadly are you a scout? What level? There is something amazing about a tanked combative scout! Shields go up fast! No one can scan you. And hell it's your suit, use it however you want. I would do a pro combo of 2 armor plates and 2 armor reps. easy. You'll survive engagements. and with this, you can succesfully disengage.
My main role though is scouting with electronic and biotic mods. |
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