From what I read I got the idea that we would just get SP at 3x the normal rate from battles and increase the cap by 3x, I didn't see anything mentioned about war points. I know you're referring to the double SP event where they simply increased the cap and slightly increased your SP gain based on war points, but there's nothing to indicate that it's going to be like that this time around. There's also nothing to indicate otherwise, either way it's far too late for this, the event starts in like 8 hours, should have said something a week ago lol.

Passive battle SP is not increased, it's only active battle SP that is increased.

I made more of a rant in the events thread, so I'll be a bit more civilized here.

CCP, I assume the "3x" SP (in quotes b/c that's not really what it is) event is intended to bring some players back and re-energize the player base, as well as give us some SP to use when 1.7 comes out. That's all fine and good but you are doing it wrong!

So, you triple the cap, which as I recall is a bit under 200k, we will round up to make the math easier. So, triple the cap is 600k. Not too shabby, I'd like to make that much in a week for sure. However, by only tripling SP from WP you take something that should reduce the grind into something that makes it worse

Maths (it's late so bear with me, I'm dumbing it down due to fatigue):

Normal conditions:
Let's take the average halfway decent player, makes about 1000-1500 WP or so on average per game. Average game of skirmish takes 20 minutes?
It comes out to around (again, rounding off to make the math easier) 10000 SP per match, 500 SP per minute. It takes roughly 20 battles to cap out, which, if Scotty really likes you, takes around 7-8 hours.

Actual triple SP:
All SP from battles are tripled. Math is easy, you now make 30,000 SP per match, and cap out at 600,000 in the same 7-8 hours.


"Triple SP" as planned:
You now get 3 SP per WP, which is still less than time based SP accrual, btw.

So, the average battle now nets you a grand total of (wait for it...) 2-3000 extra SP. THATS IT! Less impressive when you look at it that way, no?

So, now you make 13000 SP per game. To actually realize the promised tripled cap, you now have to play FORTY SIX battles to cap out, more than double! (600,000/13,000). So now it takes you 46x20/60 = 15 hours.
- Let's say for the sake of argument you are ReGnYuM or something, and you make 4000SP per battle. You get 8000 extra SP per battle, let's call it 20,000 SP. You still have to fight 30 battles to cap out, so the argument that structuring the bonus this way rewards people who play well is still bogus because even an outlier who makes 4000WP a battle (if anyone can even average that, I have no idea) has to play more than usual to hit the new cap.



Please answer this question then. CCP: If you have a player base who already feels like there is an unnecessary amount of grinding involved, why the f-- would you give us a "bonus" event that makes us have to grind for twice as long!


The right way to do "triple SP" as a bonus? We put out the same time and effort to get triple the total SP.

Honestly, find me one person who complained after the true triple SP event that he or she just didn't have to work hard enough for it. "Please CCP, can I have the opportunity to grind twice as much?" Raise your hand. Anyone? No?

hehehe, PASSIVE GAIN. that the stuff that PASSIVELY accumulates your SP, when you OFFLINE or NOT. its the stuff that builds out of battle, not in it dumbass, learn to read.

Exactly. The way the original post is worded makes it sound like a real triple SP week, but apparently it is not. Yet another bit of pretty clear-cut feedback from the player base to CCP that was completely ignored.

AFKers ruined it for us. It might be better if it was like... five times our war points, so it'd have a stronger effect, but again, only on people playing. Realistically, since we have a passive SP system anyhow, our active SP should only be war point-based, to completely deter AFKers. You could have a temporary bonus for newer players, so that they do get the time-based SP as well for a certain period of time.

before you go building a long post like that, maybe read closer the things that you're addressing. just because you assume something doesn't mean that's what ccp had intended.



I read the rest of your post. it's sad.

you think that there's 'too much grind' in dust? go play something else. it takes me 2 or 3 days of the week to hit my cap, and the rest of the time i'm playing for 1500 wp a match.

I jdgaf if you're a mediocre player with a big mouth.

This event was misleading to me as well, I am NOT an afk player, I am new, I have a very rough time getting 4k sp, this is another reward to the top tier players, and a SEVERE kick to the sack of new players. All I have run into are proto squads all day... The only balance I see is for proto vs proto. I do not have the time to play this game much, and even with the passive out of battle sp does not help enough to compete. I cannot be that bad of a player, but going against crack squads who played since it started and are sitting at 30 million and more sp is plain out impossible.