DUST Search - Idea! Emergency repairer/recharger (grenade replacement)

True Adamance wrote:

Komodo Jones wrote:

True Adamance wrote:

Komodo Jones wrote:

The idea comes from the mass effect 3 multiplayer, the players were given expendable 1 time use "first aid" kits that repaired your shields and health to full instantly, with a limit to how many you could use in a match. Obviously that would be a little overpowered, but something like a heavy shield capacitor or built in nanomachine self repair unit that takes up your grenade slot, could be put on a timer or one time use (not replenishable by nanohives or supply depot like grenades). The shield capacitor could instantly recharge a set amount of shields, while the repair unit heals a set amount of armor over a short time.

This basic concept would be good to start with, no need to get too complex but other ideas might be to bring the shield recharge delay to 0 a few seconds after the capacitor has been activated; even if you're being shot at your shields will recharge at the rate they normally would. Maybe repair unit could also modify your natural self repair rate for a short time, for example if you repair your armor at 10hp/sec, after using the module it may jump up to 20 hp/sec for 10 seconds along with the initial burst of armor repair, or maybe have a variant that just multiplies your natural armor repair rate for a set amount of time.

Obviously the concept is simple, you get into a tight spot, you tap that button and give yourself an extra few seconds to attack, hell alot of us start chucking grenades when we know we're going to die anyway, why not make that button actually useful?

Thoughts?

PLAY ME3 multiplayer with me some time!

Lol alot of the people I used to play with are getting back into me3, won't last long because there's nothing new anymore, but it is still fun and I wouldn't mind getting on again once in a while :)

Lol I haven't used my Volus Adept in weeks.....

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Komodo Jones Chaotik Serenity 191	Posted - 2013.11.06 04:59:00 - [1] - Quote The idea comes from the mass effect 3 multiplayer, the players were given expendable 1 time use "first aid" kits that repaired your shields and health to full instantly, with a limit to how many you could use in a match. Obviously that would be a little overpowered, but something like a heavy shield capacitor or built in nanomachine self repair unit that takes up your grenade slot, could be put on a timer or one time use (not replenishable by nanohives or supply depot like grenades). The shield capacitor could instantly recharge a set amount of shields, while the repair unit heals a set amount of armor over a short time. This basic concept would be good to start with, no need to get too complex but other ideas might be to bring the shield recharge delay to 0 a few seconds after the capacitor has been activated; even if you're being shot at your shields will recharge at the rate they normally would. Maybe repair unit could also modify your natural self repair rate for a short time, for example if you repair your armor at 10hp/sec, after using the module it may jump up to 20 hp/sec for 10 seconds along with the initial burst of armor repair, or maybe have a variant that just multiplies your natural armor repair rate for a set amount of time. Obviously the concept is simple, you get into a tight spot, you tap that button and give yourself an extra few seconds to attack, hell alot of us start chucking grenades when we know we're going to die anyway, why not make that button actually useful? Thoughts?
Komodo Jones Chaotik Serenity 193	Posted - 2013.11.06 16:50:00 - [2] - Quote BUMP!
Komodo Jones Chaotik Serenity 193	Posted - 2013.11.06 23:47:00 - [3] - Quote Bump again! gonna keep going until this gets some feedback from a dev or something because I think it's a damn good idea :P
Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 1467	Posted - 2013.11.07 00:11:00 - [4] - Quote Ehhhh, I see it's viability and think its awesome but I also see how it can be ridiculously OP, and can be exploited by supply depos. For example a player has 2 fits that are exactly the same except for the name. He can just alternate between those 2 fits and keep getting his 1 repair thingymabob because technically he is changing fits a even though they are the exact same. Either way +1 "It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it." -Aristotle
Komodo Jones Chaotik Serenity 194	Posted - 2013.11.07 00:35:00 - [5] - Quote So? That just adds a strategy to the game where people will fight heavily over control of the supply depots and less people will destroy them, doesn't need to be alot of regen just enough to save your ass once. I exploit the supply depot all the time by having it let me put down 15 uplinks and tons of nanohives without spending a suit. People who do want to exploit the supply depot to keep refilling the thing, which I would definitely consider, would probably be a very good target for snipers, they're hurt, not moving, and out in the open, perfect target. If you go with the timer/cooldown approach then you would have less supply depot exploitation but think about the waves of combat that would occur if everyone fought based on that timer? Would encourage people to regroup and push as a unit when they're ready, or rush ahead if the other team gets beaten down and starts to retreat and try to regroup. And some people would still use regular grenades because it doesn't really matter what kind of emergency button you have if you explode. It's not anymore OP than anything else you can do in the game (unless they come up with ridiculous numbers like the repairer giving you back 700 armor) but it sure as hell makes things more interesting :)
Azri Sarum BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 112	Posted - 2013.11.07 05:07:00 - [6] - Quote In EVE there is a module that is similar to what you are asking for. Its called the ASB. Its a mid slot module (equivelent to a high slot module for us) that gives a large boost to shields. It can't do it forever though, and quickly runs out of charges and must be reloaded. If CCP ever gets around to giving us infantry active modules then we could get something similar. It would be a very interesting change, for the better i think. EVE - Victor Maximus DUST - Azri Sarum
Komodo Jones Chaotik Serenity 194	Posted - 2013.11.07 21:00:00 - [7] - Quote Our "active modules" would have to replace our equipment or take up a grenade slot I think, otherwise it would just be too difficult to navigate, controllers don't have hotkeys lol
SponkSponkSponk The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 487	Posted - 2013.11.08 00:12:00 - [8] - Quote coughcompact nanohivecough "Pulvis et umbra sumus. (We are but dust and shadow.)" GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace
Komodo Jones Chaotik Serenity 195	Posted - 2013.11.08 00:33:00 - [9] - Quote Here's the difference, throw down compact, stand in one spot, wait for armor to come back. OR! Press one button, shields or armor come back much quicker and while moving, also you still have room for equipment.
Talos Vagheitan 150	Posted - 2013.11.08 04:25:00 - [10] - Quote Cool idea +1 Who cares what some sniper has to say

Talos Alomar Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1729	Posted - 2013.11.08 04:33:00 - [11] - Quote I like it. It would be cool if the grenade slot could be used for new items that have utility on the battlefield for uses other than killing things, or even as a penalty to using active modules on infantry (which is happening, right CCP?) I really want to add a module like the one you described to a commando fit as they have **** for regen. I'll add a suggestion of my own - The motion detector You could throw it and it'd scan for motion in a certain area for a little while.
Komodo Jones Chaotik Serenity 197	Posted - 2013.11.08 04:44:00 - [12] - Quote I support that, throwable or just turn yourself into a walking scanner? hope we get smoke grenades too, just to throw that in
Talos Alomar Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1729	Posted - 2013.11.08 04:54:00 - [13] - Quote Komodo Jones wrote: I support that, throwable or just turn yourself into a walking scanner? hope we get smoke grenades too, just to throw that in throwable. that way you can leave one on a bridge and find out when people try getting in your flank.
Komodo Jones Chaotik Serenity 197	Posted - 2013.11.08 05:56:00 - [14] - Quote Hinteresting, could do more than just put an arrow on their head too, why not make their shape appear through walls, you can know what's coming around the corner before it comes!
Komodo Jones Chaotik Serenity 197	Posted - 2013.11.12 02:03:00 - [15] - Quote Been a while since I could get on, BUMP!
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 4090	Posted - 2013.11.12 03:36:00 - [16] - Quote Komodo Jones wrote: The idea comes from the mass effect 3 multiplayer, the players were given expendable 1 time use "first aid" kits that repaired your shields and health to full instantly, with a limit to how many you could use in a match. Obviously that would be a little overpowered, but something like a heavy shield capacitor or built in nanomachine self repair unit that takes up your grenade slot, could be put on a timer or one time use (not replenishable by nanohives or supply depot like grenades). The shield capacitor could instantly recharge a set amount of shields, while the repair unit heals a set amount of armor over a short time. This basic concept would be good to start with, no need to get too complex but other ideas might be to bring the shield recharge delay to 0 a few seconds after the capacitor has been activated; even if you're being shot at your shields will recharge at the rate they normally would. Maybe repair unit could also modify your natural self repair rate for a short time, for example if you repair your armor at 10hp/sec, after using the module it may jump up to 20 hp/sec for 10 seconds along with the initial burst of armor repair, or maybe have a variant that just multiplies your natural armor repair rate for a set amount of time. Obviously the concept is simple, you get into a tight spot, you tap that button and give yourself an extra few seconds to attack, hell alot of us start chucking grenades when we know we're going to die anyway, why not make that button actually useful? Thoughts? PLAY ME3 multiplayer with me some time! "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
Komodo Jones Chaotik Serenity 199	Posted - 2013.11.12 08:03:00 - [17] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Komodo Jones wrote: The idea comes from the mass effect 3 multiplayer, the players were given expendable 1 time use "first aid" kits that repaired your shields and health to full instantly, with a limit to how many you could use in a match. Obviously that would be a little overpowered, but something like a heavy shield capacitor or built in nanomachine self repair unit that takes up your grenade slot, could be put on a timer or one time use (not replenishable by nanohives or supply depot like grenades). The shield capacitor could instantly recharge a set amount of shields, while the repair unit heals a set amount of armor over a short time. This basic concept would be good to start with, no need to get too complex but other ideas might be to bring the shield recharge delay to 0 a few seconds after the capacitor has been activated; even if you're being shot at your shields will recharge at the rate they normally would. Maybe repair unit could also modify your natural self repair rate for a short time, for example if you repair your armor at 10hp/sec, after using the module it may jump up to 20 hp/sec for 10 seconds along with the initial burst of armor repair, or maybe have a variant that just multiplies your natural armor repair rate for a set amount of time. Obviously the concept is simple, you get into a tight spot, you tap that button and give yourself an extra few seconds to attack, hell alot of us start chucking grenades when we know we're going to die anyway, why not make that button actually useful? Thoughts? PLAY ME3 multiplayer with me some time! Lol alot of the people I used to play with are getting back into me3, won't last long because there's nothing new anymore, but it is still fun and I wouldn't mind getting on again once in a while :)
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 4102	Posted - 2013.11.12 08:52:00 - [18] - Quote Komodo Jones wrote: True Adamance wrote: Komodo Jones wrote: The idea comes from the mass effect 3 multiplayer, the players were given expendable 1 time use "first aid" kits that repaired your shields and health to full instantly, with a limit to how many you could use in a match. Obviously that would be a little overpowered, but something like a heavy shield capacitor or built in nanomachine self repair unit that takes up your grenade slot, could be put on a timer or one time use (not replenishable by nanohives or supply depot like grenades). The shield capacitor could instantly recharge a set amount of shields, while the repair unit heals a set amount of armor over a short time. This basic concept would be good to start with, no need to get too complex but other ideas might be to bring the shield recharge delay to 0 a few seconds after the capacitor has been activated; even if you're being shot at your shields will recharge at the rate they normally would. Maybe repair unit could also modify your natural self repair rate for a short time, for example if you repair your armor at 10hp/sec, after using the module it may jump up to 20 hp/sec for 10 seconds along with the initial burst of armor repair, or maybe have a variant that just multiplies your natural armor repair rate for a set amount of time. Obviously the concept is simple, you get into a tight spot, you tap that button and give yourself an extra few seconds to attack, hell alot of us start chucking grenades when we know we're going to die anyway, why not make that button actually useful? Thoughts? PLAY ME3 multiplayer with me some time! Lol alot of the people I used to play with are getting back into me3, won't last long because there's nothing new anymore, but it is still fun and I wouldn't mind getting on again once in a while :) Lol I haven't used my Volus Adept in weeks..... "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
Komodo Jones Chaotik Serenity 199	Posted - 2013.11.12 18:18:00 - [19] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Komodo Jones wrote: True Adamance wrote: Komodo Jones wrote: The idea comes from the mass effect 3 multiplayer, the players were given expendable 1 time use "first aid" kits that repaired your shields and health to full instantly, with a limit to how many you could use in a match. Obviously that would be a little overpowered, but something like a heavy shield capacitor or built in nanomachine self repair unit that takes up your grenade slot, could be put on a timer or one time use (not replenishable by nanohives or supply depot like grenades). The shield capacitor could instantly recharge a set amount of shields, while the repair unit heals a set amount of armor over a short time. This basic concept would be good to start with, no need to get too complex but other ideas might be to bring the shield recharge delay to 0 a few seconds after the capacitor has been activated; even if you're being shot at your shields will recharge at the rate they normally would. Maybe repair unit could also modify your natural self repair rate for a short time, for example if you repair your armor at 10hp/sec, after using the module it may jump up to 20 hp/sec for 10 seconds along with the initial burst of armor repair, or maybe have a variant that just multiplies your natural armor repair rate for a set amount of time. Obviously the concept is simple, you get into a tight spot, you tap that button and give yourself an extra few seconds to attack, hell alot of us start chucking grenades when we know we're going to die anyway, why not make that button actually useful? Thoughts? PLAY ME3 multiplayer with me some time! Lol alot of the people I used to play with are getting back into me3, won't last long because there's nothing new anymore, but it is still fun and I wouldn't mind getting on again once in a while :) Lol I haven't used my Volus Adept in weeks..... Haaaaaaa...volus..I really want to see the volus vanguard in action, flying cannonball zipping across the field :) still missing the juggernaut, I want!
Smooth Assassin Stardust incorporation 351	Posted - 2013.11.12 18:31:00 - [20] - Quote Komodo Jones wrote: The idea comes from the mass effect 3 multiplayer, the players were given expendable 1 time use "first aid" kits that repaired your shields and health to full instantly, with a limit to how many you could use in a match. Obviously that would be a little overpowered, but something like a heavy shield capacitor or built in nanomachine self repair unit that takes up your grenade slot, could be put on a timer or one time use (not replenishable by nanohives or supply depot like grenades). The shield capacitor could instantly recharge a set amount of shields, while the repair unit heals a set amount of armor over a short time. This basic concept would be good to start with, no need to get too complex but other ideas might be to bring the shield recharge delay to 0 a few seconds after the capacitor has been activated; even if you're being shot at your shields will recharge at the rate they normally would. Maybe repair unit could also modify your natural self repair rate for a short time, for example if you repair your armor at 10hp/sec, after using the module it may jump up to 20 hp/sec for 10 seconds along with the initial burst of armor repair, or maybe have a variant that just multiplies your natural armor repair rate for a set amount of time. Obviously the concept is simple, you get into a tight spot, you tap that button and give yourself an extra few seconds to attack, hell alot of us start chucking grenades when we know we're going to die anyway, why not make that button actually useful? Thoughts? I LOVE ME3!!!!!! *Assassination is my thing.*

Komodo Jones Chaotik Serenity 199	Posted - 2013.11.18 07:02:00 - [21] - Quote bump again!
IceShifter Childhaspawn DUST University Ivy League 401	Posted - 2013.11.18 12:32:00 - [22] - Quote Think this idea would be great if it was actually consumed by its use. As in it disappears from the suit and inventory.
jerrmy12 kahoalii The dyst0pian Corporation Zero-Day 95	Posted - 2013.11.18 14:51:00 - [23] - Quote IceShifter Childhaspawn wrote: Think this idea would be great if it was actually consumed by its use. As in it disappears from the suit and inventory. or a equipment that has long cooldown nut only regens shields, would be nice
Komodo Jones Chaotik Serenity 201	Posted - 2013.11.18 19:18:00 - [24] - Quote Could also work, but I figured making it take up a grenade slot would be more fluid in terms of use, and it would make people have some tough decisions, giving up a grenade might be tougher than an equipment slot, and besides there's already way more equipment than grenade variations
CLONE117 planetary retaliation organisation 478	Posted - 2013.11.18 19:27:00 - [25] - Quote this only looks like a buff to rep tanking.
Komodo Jones Chaotik Serenity 201	Posted - 2013.11.19 03:57:00 - [26] - Quote You mean how people are just using logies to follow them around? Don't see why this is a problem, or why it's a problem to have your own self repairer, the real problem is that guns are so damn powerful that the only viable option is to stack damage and defense mods so with the continuing trend then something like this is definitely justified. If we did manage to back away from the current setup of the game it's still not like it's going to be a huge problem it's just another option to have to customize your suit, maybe then using something like a speed tanked suit could actually be useful.


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