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DeadlyAztec11
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.11.06 04:53:00 -
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How many of you guys use the Nova Knives as sidearms? Not as your main weapon, but as a compliment to your primary?
Madness is the emergency exit. You can just step outside, and close the door on all those dreadful things that happened.
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hackerzilla
Defenders of the Helghast Dream
453
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Posted - 2013.11.06 04:54:00 -
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population: 0.
"i weel shuut u een duh faise" - some Minnie scout
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OZAROW
WarRavens
League of Infamy
1066
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Posted - 2013.11.06 04:56:00 -
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In 1.1 they were my main an only weapon got over 20 kills a game, now I hardy use em an if I do I bring re, grenades a sg or smg, not reliable anymore.
Some people wish they were but it's been indirectly nerfed since 1.2 |
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
The Kaos Legion
448
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Posted - 2013.11.06 05:00:00 -
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pre 1.4 they were my main weapon. afterwards it just went downhill...
the only thing worse than the hit detection now is the accursed frame rate when using them.
How exactly does a Biscuit gain Valor?
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DeadlyAztec11
Gallente Federation
2379
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Posted - 2013.11.06 05:03:00 -
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*facepalm*
I asked who used them as a sidearm, not as a main.
-_-
"Reading is fundamental!"
Madness is the emergency exit. You can just step outside, and close the door on all those dreadful things that happened.
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IgniteableAura
Pro Hic Immortalis
301
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Posted - 2013.11.06 05:21:00 -
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Better off with any other sideman than nova knives.
They are only used for those wanting a challenge and change of pace.
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VAHZZ
The dyst0pian Corporation
33
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Posted - 2013.11.06 05:29:00 -
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I use them as a sidearm but thinking of booting them since CCP has made them almost useless...i went to assassinate someone and it didn't even touch the dude at point blank...fully charged..
> Master of the Sniper and rookie NKer
"Fear the ones you can't see.."
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
4971
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Posted - 2013.11.06 05:36:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:*facepalm*
I asked who used them as a sidearm, not as a main.
-_-
"Reading is fundamental!"
Comes to show how many see them as a primary, doesn't it?
CCP, please fix the Nova Knives. Thank you.
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Tectonic Fusion
485
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Posted - 2013.11.06 05:47:00 -
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I use them on my scout suit for melee, along with my trusty toxin AR.
Solo Player
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Melchiah ARANeAE
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
226
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Posted - 2013.11.06 06:07:00 -
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I don't always use nova knives. But when I do, they're my primary weapon.
Also, Why must a sidearm mean secondary weapon?
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Niuvo
NECROM0NGERS
710
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Posted - 2013.11.06 06:28:00 -
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No one uses it as a sidearm, maybe because they aren't viable as a sidearm. |
CHAOZZ X
Redline Defense Force
0
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Posted - 2013.11.13 06:09:00 -
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I use them as a compliment to my militia shotgun. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
10198
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Posted - 2013.11.13 06:14:00 -
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I have them as a side arm for my shotgun, use the knives first and finish off with shotgun.
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CHAOZZ X
Redline Defense Force
0
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Posted - 2013.11.13 06:18:00 -
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Shotguns and Novas compliment each other perfectly. |
Ghost Kaisar
R 0 N 1 N
822
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Posted - 2013.11.13 07:15:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:*facepalm*
I asked who used them as a sidearm, not as a main.
-_-
"Reading is fundamental!"
Problem here is the fact they they make a terrible sidearm.
A sidearm complements your main weapon, or acts as a finisher or last resort when caught reloading.
Well, Nova Knives suck as a last resort in a gunfight, and is an even worse finisher (Just melee him!)
Even when complementing your main (Knives/SMG comes to mind. Excellent Short-mid range combo), the knives need to be really specced out to be useful, which then deal so much damage, you use them as a main.
I used to main knives with SMG's, but I have since switched to Assault Scrambler Pistols and SMG's.
Far more useful, and versatile.
"All war is deception." "He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious" -Sun Tzu
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Ghost Kaisar
R 0 N 1 N
822
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Posted - 2013.11.13 07:18:00 -
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CHAOZZ X wrote:Shotguns and Novas compliment each other perfectly.
Disagree. Why would you need two CQC weapons? When using a Shotgun, an SMG is a much better sidearm, since it has CQC viability and longer range than the shotgun. I.e, if you run out of ammo with the shotty, you can still use an SMG to great effect at close range, and it will help alleviate some of the range problems of the shotgun.
If you get caught at 10-15m with a Shotgun/Nova Knive kit, you better run like hell, because neither weapon is going to be of much use at that range.
"All war is deception." "He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious" -Sun Tzu
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CHAOZZ X
Redline Defense Force
0
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Posted - 2013.11.13 07:21:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:CHAOZZ X wrote:Shotguns and Novas compliment each other perfectly. Disagree. Why would you need two CQC weapons? When using a Shotgun, an SMG is a much better sidearm, since it has CQC viability and longer range than the shotgun. I.e, if you run out of ammo with the shotty, you can still use an SMG to great effect at close range, and it will help alleviate some of the range problems of the shotgun. If you get caught at 10-15m with a Shotgun/Nova Knive kit, you better run like hell, because neither weapon is going to be of much use at that range.
You are correct there, which is why its very situational. |
CHAOZZ X
Redline Defense Force
0
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Posted - 2013.11.13 07:32:00 -
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I use SMGs as well, very effective. |
CHAOZZ X
Redline Defense Force
1
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Posted - 2013.11.13 07:49:00 -
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IgniteableAura wrote:Better off with any other sideman than nova knives.
They are only used for those wanting a challenge and change of pace.
Above quote: Which is why I like using my SWP (Second Primary Weapon) Novas.
I refuse to call any weapon a secondary or sidearm SWP. :) |
Broonfondle Majikthies
Bannana Boat Corp
Relentless Heroes Alliance
424
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Posted - 2013.11.13 07:56:00 -
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Since the hit detection isn't any good it is kinda my sidearm. I try to use it whenever possible though but it isn't what it should be so gets relegated to my sidearm for when an enemy is busy hacking or whatever
"We demand rigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty!"
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CHAOZZ X
Redline Defense Force
1
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Posted - 2013.11.13 08:03:00 -
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Has anyone else noticed that if you are making physical contact with (victim) while there shooting at you especially Heavies, since your SOO close to them you cant get shot because YOUR INSIDE THE SHOOTERS ARMS LENGTH which allows you to knife/shoot/kick them in the Face. |
GRIM GEAR
Isuuaya Tactical
Caldari State
42
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Posted - 2013.11.13 09:16:00 -
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I know Mr Musturd uses Nova Knives as a side arm, I use them occasionally. |
ugg reset
Molon Labe PC
RISE of LEGION
409
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Posted - 2013.11.23 09:12:00 -
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not going to lie these things have gotten me killed a lot more than than the have gotten me kills. the ADV tier is when you stat to insta kill the majority of med suites.
what is the real damage for knives? I know that I am doing a lot more than the posted damage even with the +20% to shield
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mr musturd
0uter.Heaven
Proficiency V.
86
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Posted - 2013.11.23 09:31:00 -
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ugg reset wrote: not going to lie these things have gotten me killed a lot more than than the have gotten me kills. the ADV tier is when you stat to insta kill the majority of med suites.
what is the real damage for knives? I know that I am doing a lot more than the posted damage even with the +20% to shield
ok the damage stated in the descripition for knives is for 1 knife uncharged when u swing if only one knife hits it will do the displayed damage in the description if both knives hit then displayed damage is double. A charge of the knife roughly doubles the amount displayed per knife. so with maxed proficiency and the proto minny suit skill maxed with proto knives you charged damage will be 1428 IF both knives hit |
Denchlad 7
Heavy Reign inc.
Freek Alliance
22
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Posted - 2013.11.23 10:42:00 -
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I use the Proto Knives primary on my scouts, but I use an SMG as the sidearm incase I cockup.
-Flaylock Specialist. I even dual-wield it still. (GîÉGûá_Gûá)
-Likes ramming a HMG up Gallentes rear end.
-Pain in the arse
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Luna Angelo
We Who Walk Alone
131
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Posted - 2013.11.23 10:45:00 -
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Does it count if I have it on a class that I don't use, as a sidearm? Because if so, I'm in this.
I am the Horseless Headsman.
Director and COO of We Who Walk Alone
Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinion of sheep.
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DeadlyAztec11
Gallente Federation
2193
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Posted - 2013.11.23 12:29:00 -
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Luna Angelo wrote:Does it count if I have it on a class that I don't use, as a sidearm? Because if so, I'm in this.
You have to use it.
I use it on my Advanced Caldari Basic Suit to finish people off.
Madness is the emergency exit. You can just step outside, and close the door on all those dreadful things that happened.
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Luna Angelo
We Who Walk Alone
136
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Posted - 2013.11.23 12:50:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Luna Angelo wrote:Does it count if I have it on a class that I don't use, as a sidearm? Because if so, I'm in this. You have to use it. I use it on my Advanced Caldari Basic Suit to finish people off.
Bah. I'm normally a Logi, I can't use it as a sidearm (no secondary and all that.)
I am the Horseless Headsman.
Director and COO of We Who Walk Alone
Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinion of sheep.
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DeadlyAztec11
Gallente Federation
2194
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Posted - 2013.11.23 13:14:00 -
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Luna Angelo wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Luna Angelo wrote:Does it count if I have it on a class that I don't use, as a sidearm? Because if so, I'm in this. You have to use it. I use it on my Advanced Caldari Basic Suit to finish people off. Bah. I'm normally a Logi, I can't use it as a sidearm (no secondary and all that.)
I use to run it as a primary on my Logi back in Chromosome lol
Madness is the emergency exit. You can just step outside, and close the door on all those dreadful things that happened.
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Luna Angelo
We Who Walk Alone
137
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Posted - 2013.11.23 13:15:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Luna Angelo wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Luna Angelo wrote:Does it count if I have it on a class that I don't use, as a sidearm? Because if so, I'm in this. You have to use it. I use it on my Advanced Caldari Basic Suit to finish people off. Bah. I'm normally a Logi, I can't use it as a sidearm (no secondary and all that.) I use to run it as a primary on my Logi back in Chromosome lol
Very nice. Used to run Scout Shotty with knives in Chrome.
I am the Horseless Headsman.
Director and COO of We Who Walk Alone
Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinion of sheep.
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Ridire Greine
53
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Posted - 2013.11.23 13:39:00 -
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I do, Nova Knives for Heavies, and tanked meds.
Shotgun for Meds, and Scouts.
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DEZKA DIABLO
Commando Perkone
Caldari State
70
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Posted - 2013.11.23 13:50:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:*facepalm*
I asked who used them as a sidearm, not as a main.
-_-
"Reading is fundamental!"
So is understanding the opposite of wat their saying, yes , sidearms.
DUH |
Fire of Prometheus
DUST University
Ivy League
1748
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Posted - 2013.11.23 13:56:00 -
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I use them on my scout and....we'll you know the story already....my trollolololol fit
"It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it."
-Aristotle
I'll take your Iskies
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DeadlyAztec11
Gallente Federation
2195
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Posted - 2013.11.23 14:15:00 -
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DEZKA DIABLO wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:*facepalm*
I asked who used them as a sidearm, not as a main.
-_-
"Reading is fundamental!" So is understanding the opposite of wat their saying, yes , sidearms. DUH
Yes, but only because it seems that few people actually use it as a sidearm. ;(
Madness is the emergency exit. You can just step outside, and close the door on all those dreadful things that happened.
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ugg reset
Molon Labe PC
RISE of LEGION
409
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Posted - 2013.11.23 17:17:00 -
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Luna Angelo wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Luna Angelo wrote:Does it count if I have it on a class that I don't use, as a sidearm? Because if so, I'm in this. You have to use it. I use it on my Advanced Caldari Basic Suit to finish people off. Bah. I'm normally a Logi, I can't use it as a sidearm (no secondary and all that.)
I love being an Amarr logi
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Tesfa Alem
Death by Disassociation
Zero-Day
20
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Posted - 2013.11.23 17:46:00 -
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Sure i have the shotty nova knives combo on my basic mini scout. Its a striclty for fun suit, i find it hilarious and rewarding creeping up on red berries: First getting into shotgun range, then into to knife range, then i stand FREAKING STILL and charge the blades right behind em SNIKT!
*I fly I shoot I rep I tank/
Heavy, Scout, Assault and Logi at range/
I'm the Jack of all trades/
Master of Some
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ugg reset
Molon Labe PC
RISE of LEGION
410
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Posted - 2013.11.23 21:49:00 -
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I enjoy bleeding people out with NK's. it's quick, quiet and doesn't use any amo. that and the idea of denying any last hope for revival with the lowest tier of weapon puts a wicked though in my head.
quando omni flunkus, moritati
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DeadlyAztec11
Gallente Federation
2209
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Posted - 2013.11.23 21:52:00 -
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ugg reset wrote:I enjoy bleeding people out with NK's. it's quick, quiet and doesn't use any amo. that and the idea of denying any last hope for revival with the lowest tier of weapon puts a wicked though in my head.
Me too.
Madness is the emergency exit. You can just step outside, and close the door on all those dreadful things that happened.
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