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Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 917	Posted - 2013.11.06 02:48:00 - [1] - Quote Was just wondering what prototype weapons are either outperformed or have equal performance to a basic weapon?? Hmm so far lets see: Basic laser 17 damage, 84m range Viziam laser 17 damage, 84m range And the Viziam laser costs MORE ISK, needs MORE CPU, MORE PG, damages the USER MORE....lol! Anyone have any other nominations for most useless weapon at advanced or prototype?? Yeah was playing Skyrim most of today............
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 917	Posted - 2013.11.06 02:55:00 - [2] - Quote Tectonic Fusion wrote: 8213 wrote: Shotguns... all of them No. Plasma Cannon. Does the Allotek PC do the same damage as the basic plasma cannon?? Or in what factors does the basic PC outperform or perform on equal footing as far as damage or other factors versus its prototype like in the example of a basic laser versus a prototype viziam laser.
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 917	Posted - 2013.11.06 02:59:00 - [3] - Quote Melchiah ARANeAE wrote: Nova knives. You pay more to not be able to hit anything at all. Is the chargeup time the same on basic knives versus proto knives?? Is the damage the same on basic knives versus proto knives??
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 920	Posted - 2013.11.06 03:09:00 - [4] - Quote Melchiah ARANeAE wrote: Nova knives. You pay more to not be able to hit anything at all. Edit: Also, the Viziam laser isn't so bad. It has redueced heat build up so you can keep firing for longer and keep it hotter for longer as well, thus doing a lot more damage. Combine that with the Amarr assault bonus and you've got a deadly weapon. Since when is 1% significant versus all the drawbacks?? 225 feedback damage..........Tech Ohm suicided..........umm no thanks when the basic laser does the same damage with less costs involved. Looks at Allotek PC and it does more damage then basic same for proto knives. And nothing in kill feed: nova knife overheat........tech ohm suicided.
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 920	Posted - 2013.11.06 03:33:00 - [5] - Quote Oh well too late anyway to fix since its going to matter zip! once the PS4 and a few newer PS3 games get here.
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 920	Posted - 2013.11.06 03:46:00 - [6] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: Cosgar wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: Small Rails. /endthread 20GJ Compressed Particle Cannon especially. 33% against vehicle (What you would think it was supposed to blap like nothing) Terribad Aiming Slow terribad aiming Miniscule Splash radius That combined with that you are DEPENDANT on another player positioning you into a good spot and keep the reps and resists on to avoid instablap at the hands of Proto Swarms Is the basic small rail doing the same damage as the proto small rail??
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 920	Posted - 2013.11.06 03:50:00 - [7] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: Was just wondering what prototype weapons are either outperformed or have equal performance to a basic weapon?? Hmm so far lets see: Basic laser 17 damage, 84m range Viziam laser 17 damage, 84m range And the Viziam laser costs MORE ISK, needs MORE CPU, MORE PG, damages the USER MORE....lol! Anyone have any other nominations for most useless weapon at advanced or prototype?? Yeah was playing Skyrim most of today............ Viziam with fully spec'd amarr assault armor with three damage is the most terrifying **** in the world. I can get the same damage from a basic laser versus the viziam. The basic laser has less ISK cost, less CPU cost and less PG cost. I can fit more complex damage mods on a suit with a basic laser. I can fit LESS complex damage mods when using a viziam laser. I end up haveing MORE damage output capability from a basic laser. Viziam proto laser useless.
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 920	Posted - 2013.11.06 04:21:00 - [8] - Quote Disturbingly Bored wrote: Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: I can get the same damage from a basic laser versus the viziam. The basic laser has less ISK cost, less CPU cost and less PG cost. I can fit more complex damage mods on a suit with a basic laser. I can fit LESS complex damage mods when using a viziam laser. I end up haveing MORE damage output capability from a basic laser. Viziam proto laser useless. I'm assuming you're specced into Viziam and have tried it? I tried the basic laser with no skills and it sucked . However since I have MD at prof 3 and AR at prof 5 I said lets try the laser?? Right now I have laser at operations level 5 and proficiency at level four. The basic laser outperforms the advanced and prototype lasers. Ohh and the Viziam has this extra drawback of 225 hp damage if you overheat so it leads to expensive suicides. At least the prototype plasma cannon does a bit more damage when you use it and does not autokill the user.
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 920	Posted - 2013.11.06 04:24:00 - [9] - Quote TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote: no matter what someone posts, you're going to say that they are wrong by asking rhetorical questions and then repeating your original post. just calls it as i sees it. Show me a BASIC weapon that does the SAME damage per bullet/explosion/round as the advanced or prototype weapon. Show me a BASIC weapon that has the SAME range as an advanced or prototype weapon. Simple. Your turn.
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 920	Posted - 2013.11.06 04:29:00 - [10] - Quote Broonfondle Majikthies wrote: sigh Heat capacity increases with laser weapon tier. The greater the heat capacity the longer the weapon can fire before overheat The longer you fire the laser the greater the damage output Therefore the Visiam does more damage Seriously, if you use the weapon you should know this 1% damage increase. Viziam and one complex damage mod 11% OR Basic laser and THREE complex damage mods. 27% Whats higher? BASIC laser. You bring your Viziam laser and I will bring my basic laser. Name a time and region server. I hope you say yes since I really enjoy teaching folks about how four complex damage mods on a basic laser will toast a single complex mod on a Viziam laser any day.

Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 920	Posted - 2013.11.06 05:03:00 - [11] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: Was just wondering what prototype weapons are either outperformed or have equal performance to a basic weapon?? Hmm so far lets see: Basic laser 17 damage, 84m range Viziam laser 17 damage, 84m range And the Viziam laser costs MORE ISK, needs MORE CPU, MORE PG, damages the USER MORE....lol! Anyone have any other nominations for most useless weapon at advanced or prototype?? Yeah was playing Skyrim most of today............ Im sorry i CANNOT VOTE the Viziam. With 1 Cx Dam mod, Prof 3 and an Assault AMarr the Difference in Overheat is TOO MASSIVE IMO to ignore. REMEMBER, COntinious damage = MORE DAMAGE (and in the case of the laser, while reaching 50 Ammo the Viziam just outpreforms the Laser Rifle in every aspect, MORE DAMAGE plus More Ammo to spend without having to stop), so the VIZIAM, DOES do more damage after all....Plus it looks cool. I would vote the SHOTGUNS or PC to be quite honest.... I have seen you overheat with the viziam and its was ouchies from the feedback damage to you. Three more bullets shot from viziam with one complex mod versus three less bullets with a basic laser and four mods. I get more kills with a basic laser. But hey lets test your viziam versus my basic laser??
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 921	Posted - 2013.11.06 13:24:00 - [12] - Quote Vin Mora wrote: Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: Was just wondering what prototype weapons are either outperformed or have equal performance to a basic weapon?? Hmm so far lets see: Basic laser 17 damage, 84m range Viziam laser 17 damage, 84m range And the Viziam laser costs MORE ISK, needs MORE CPU, MORE PG, damages the USER MORE....lol! Anyone have any other nominations for most useless weapon at advanced or prototype?? Yeah was playing Skyrim most of today............ You realize it overheats much slower right? Meaning that its damage is much higher for longer than the basic laser rifle, and that is further increased by the Amarr Assault Suit (and related skill). It does not overheat much slower or even a bit slower since it really overheats a TINY bit slower to do a TINY bit more damage in exchange for 225 feedback damage that results in suicide. Thats a pisspoor proto weapon.

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