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Posted - 2013.11.06 08:32:00 -
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I'm sorry, but with all the technology in New Eden, you now expect simple things like door locks??? GTFO!
But seriously, I lost an HAV today, because someone was able to get into it a millisecond faster than me. He didn't know how to drive it, and certainly didn't know how to activate the Armor Hardeners... Forge Gun ate it up in no time. . .
600,000 ISK... *poof* |
Spkr4theDead
Red Star.
EoN.
1200
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Posted - 2013.11.06 08:32:00 -
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hgghyujh wrote:yea sorry dude this has been a subject of much complaining and yet nothing is being done about it.
yep all vehicles should be locked to player on delivery and then locked to player,squad,team should be selectable by the player while in the vehicle.
vehicles should be hackable by teamates when they are locked and you have left them unattended.
Of course for this to work you have to have a kick option, to boot people out of your vehicle with a WP loss if you boot teamates in such a way that they land in the red line and die there shows in killfeed as a team kill.
Arguments against the kick:
People will abuse it to troll blueberries: that's a self correcting problem, and the worst abuse is fixed by wp loss to red line trolling.
people will sit in the red line just to cost the pilot WP: then make sure you kick them so they land out of the red line.
But see, to some of us, it's entirely worth it. It's payback for how many times they got in our vehicles and never left to do anything productive, like hack a point or CRU.
Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
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hgghyujh
Expert Intervention
Caldari State
158
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Posted - 2013.11.06 08:43:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:hgghyujh wrote:yea sorry dude this has been a subject of much complaining and yet nothing is being done about it.
yep all vehicles should be locked to player on delivery and then locked to player,squad,team should be selectable by the player while in the vehicle.
vehicles should be hackable by teamates when they are locked and you have left them unattended.
Of course for this to work you have to have a kick option, to boot people out of your vehicle with a WP loss if you boot teamates in such a way that they land in the red line and die there shows in killfeed as a team kill.
Arguments against the kick:
People will abuse it to troll blueberries: that's a self correcting problem, and the worst abuse is fixed by wp loss to red line trolling.
people will sit in the red line just to cost the pilot WP: then make sure you kick them so they land out of the red line.
But see, to some of us, it's entirely worth it. It's payback for how many times they got in our vehicles and never left to do anything productive, like hack a point or CRU.
yea well thats kinda the point it should be possible just it shouldn't be optimal, that and if you do it enough people will stop riding with you, hence self correcting. |
Spkr4theDead
Red Star.
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.11.06 09:02:00 -
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hgghyujh wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:hgghyujh wrote:yea sorry dude this has been a subject of much complaining and yet nothing is being done about it.
yep all vehicles should be locked to player on delivery and then locked to player,squad,team should be selectable by the player while in the vehicle.
vehicles should be hackable by teamates when they are locked and you have left them unattended.
Of course for this to work you have to have a kick option, to boot people out of your vehicle with a WP loss if you boot teamates in such a way that they land in the red line and die there shows in killfeed as a team kill.
Arguments against the kick:
People will abuse it to troll blueberries: that's a self correcting problem, and the worst abuse is fixed by wp loss to red line trolling.
people will sit in the red line just to cost the pilot WP: then make sure you kick them so they land out of the red line.
But see, to some of us, it's entirely worth it. It's payback for how many times they got in our vehicles and never left to do anything productive, like hack a point or CRU. yea well thats kinda the point it should be possible just it shouldn't be optimal, that and if you do it enough people will stop riding with you, hence self correcting.
If CCP ever implements anything pilots could use to troll society at large, it won't be a simple, quick thing done by pilots. It will be premeditated, and last a long time in pubs, because we've had to deal with the most incredible examples of blind stupidity known to gaming.
Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
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Judge Rhadamanthus
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
618
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Posted - 2013.11.06 09:08:00 -
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I want locks too, but I don't think we should judge all the blues too harshly. In all other similar games, like battlefield , free vehicles just spawn and then you jostle with other people to get it. The RDV delivery is likely seen by many new players as a similar system. Many, not all of course, will think vehicles are just free and random spawns.
We still need locks, but some education by the game to these new players would also be useful.
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Void Echo
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
2104
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Posted - 2013.11.06 09:20:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Have you ever had to destroy your own tank? It really hurts on the inside man. 
when I know that its an enemy inside of the tank instead of a teammate, I have a clear conscience.
Closed Beta Vet
My Youtube Channel
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Nirwanda Vaughns
Molon Labe.
RISE of LEGION
174
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Posted - 2013.11.06 09:32:00 -
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Personally i think the person who calls in a vehicle should be able to recall it even if other people are in it. they get a warning its being recalled and if they don't exit before the RDV gets there they die. seemples |
Luna Angelo
We Who Walk Alone
67
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Posted - 2013.11.06 09:37:00 -
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Nirwanda Vaughns wrote:Personally i think the person who calls in a vehicle should be able to recall it even if other people are in it. they get a warning its being recalled and if they don't exit before the RDV gets there they die. seemples
I like it. Simple and effective. BTW, Nirwanda, this is Amara Pryde from Owlex. When are you and I gonna run together again? It's been ages.
I am the Horseless Headsman.
Director and COO of We Who Walk Alone
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star.
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.11.06 09:42:00 -
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Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: if they don't exit before the RDV gets there they die. seemples
I like it!
Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star.
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.11.06 09:43:00 -
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Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:I want locks too, but I don't think we should judge all the blues too harshly. In all other similar games, like battlefield , free vehicles just spawn and then you jostle with other people to get it. The RDV delivery is likely seen by many new players as a similar system. Many, not all of course, will think vehicles are just free and random spawns.
We still need locks, but some education by the game to these new players would also be useful.
I judge all the blues harshly. Maybe because I've dealt with too much BS to be nice most of the time.
I'd like to game with you some time while you're recording.
Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
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Blake Kingston
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
141
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Posted - 2013.11.06 09:56:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:hgghyujh wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:hgghyujh wrote:yea sorry dude this has been a subject of much complaining and yet nothing is being done about it.
yep all vehicles should be locked to player on delivery and then locked to player,squad,team should be selectable by the player while in the vehicle.
vehicles should be hackable by teamates when they are locked and you have left them unattended.
Of course for this to work you have to have a kick option, to boot people out of your vehicle with a WP loss if you boot teamates in such a way that they land in the red line and die there shows in killfeed as a team kill.
Arguments against the kick:
People will abuse it to troll blueberries: that's a self correcting problem, and the worst abuse is fixed by wp loss to red line trolling.
people will sit in the red line just to cost the pilot WP: then make sure you kick them so they land out of the red line.
But see, to some of us, it's entirely worth it. It's payback for how many times they got in our vehicles and never left to do anything productive, like hack a point or CRU. yea well thats kinda the point it should be possible just it shouldn't be optimal, that and if you do it enough people will stop riding with you, hence self correcting. If CCP ever implements anything pilots could use to troll society at large, it won't be a simple, quick thing done by pilots. It will be premeditated, and last a long time in pubs, because we've had to deal with the most incredible examples of blind stupidity known to gaming.
Oh for gods sake, it's not like it takes a coding genius to not allow such kicks to occur if the pilot is behind the red line
Hmmm.
Okay, granted, that's still beyond CCP. They are still working on head shot kill messages (they are trying hard for it to not show 'Hello World!' instead) |
Vyzion Eyri
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
1829
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Posted - 2013.11.06 09:57:00 -
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Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:I want locks too, but I don't think we should judge all the blues too harshly. In all other similar games, like battlefield , free vehicles just spawn and then you jostle with other people to get it. The RDV delivery is likely seen by many new players as a similar system. Many, not all of course, will think vehicles are just free and random spawns.
We still need locks, but some education by the game to these new players would also be useful.
Good point. Tutorial needs to BRAND the newberry's mind about consequences in New Eden.
Have all newbies start out with 100mill ISK, but through the tutorial destroy their assets over and over, force them to repurchase dozens of times, show them the PAIN of trying to grind that dropship hull, just to be met with the incredible prices for turrets, until they're down to maybe 1mill ISK, which they get to keep for getting through the tutorial. They will treasure it, and we'll never have impolite blueberries again.
Then put them in the Academy.
THEN into pubs.
"..things that some people frankly don't even get the chance to do in real life, because it's poorly designed."
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Blake Kingston
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
141
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Posted - 2013.11.06 09:58:00 -
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Nirwanda Vaughns wrote:Personally i think the person who calls in a vehicle should be able to recall it even if other people are in it. they get a warning its being recalled and if they don't exit before the RDV gets there they die. seemples
Like holding down the circle button to do so.
To CCP though, such programming is sufficiently advanced enough to appear as magic to them. |
N7 Operative Anthony
WarRavens
League of Infamy
5
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Posted - 2013.11.06 11:22:00 -
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Rentoku Gratzl wrote:Getting really pissed off with this now,
three times in four matches someone has stolen my drop ship. Two out of three times I ended up gunning in my own ship, then jumping out as it crashed. What is it with these arse holes stealing ships they can't fly?!?!
the last one really boiled my ****, he got in and flew upwards and just jumped out as if he was deliberately just being an ******** - 'alex muertes' character, PSN alexyfernando you are a fully fledged ****.
there should be some kind of fix on this, perhaps a delay preventing anyone but the person who called in the ship from getting in the driving seat for a short time?
Haha lmao to this. But no it sucks. I once rammed a dropship with a lav and destroyed it. Troll |
Kosakai
ZionTCD
Public Disorder.
4
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Posted - 2013.11.06 11:30:00 -
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same problem here....  |
Mortedeamor
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
The Ascendancy
648
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Posted - 2013.11.06 12:01:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:Vyuru wrote:I will say that if a scout is running towards the first null cannon at the start of the match, is like 20m from it, and someone rushes past with a jeep to hack it instead of continuing on towards the next NC, yeah, I got no problem taking his jeep for a joyride.
The yahoos who jack a vehicle and don't know how to use it, or it's something more expensive like a DS or HAV, yeah, I got issues with that. You guys have spent way too much time and ISK into getting to be able to use those vehicles, people ought to respect that. specced lavs are not cheap ur an ******* if u take any vehicle thats not a bpo saga Especially LLAV and Scout LAVs Those things are expensive as F***
i concur my logi lavs start at 200k end at 300 not CHEAP |
Evan Gotabor
Prima Gallicus
0
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Posted - 2013.11.06 12:58:00 -
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There is only one way not to have your dropship stole (for the moment). Take a dropship without the mobile drop uplink module and fly like hell once it has been drop by the bolas. If you play with a squad, give them an area where they will be isolated. Or you can also troll those little blue because it's all they deserve.
A squad has the priority to enter the vehicule 1/2 secondes before the others blue.
Generally, there are less blue droping at the MCC than on the ground base.
Here are all the tips i know if you want to see your dropship again.
I'm afraid that is more difficult for LAV except if you get them back safe before you leave them... |
deezy dabest
Warpoint Sharx
83
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Posted - 2013.11.06 13:12:00 -
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Rentoku Gratzl wrote:Getting really pissed off with this now,
three times in four matches someone has stolen my drop ship. Two out of three times I ended up gunning in my own ship, then jumping out as it crashed. What is it with these arse holes stealing ships they can't fly?!?!
the last one really boiled my ****, he got in and flew upwards and just jumped out as if he was deliberately just being an ******** - 'alex muertes' character, PSN alexyfernando you are a fully fledged ****.
there should be some kind of fix on this, perhaps a delay preventing anyone but the person who called in the ship from getting in the driving seat for a short time?
Sorry to say it but welcome to the club, we have been asking to a fix for this for 6 months.
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Asirius Medaius
628
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Posted - 2013.11.06 13:46:00 -
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SILVERBACK 02 wrote:unfortunately that guy has the last laugh on you pal.. he is probly getting off on iit now thinking its funny trolling pilots^^ i feel anger for you not doing anything about it though...
personally anyone who did this to me i would hunt them down knock on their door embrace them into a hug and whisper "DUST 514.. dropship".
then look into his eyes, go for my 14" machette- plunge it into his stomach and do one quick swift motion upwards slicing though his internal organs then through his rib cage like a knife opening an envelope... as he clings on to me il lay him down and make him watch his own intestines spew out all over his mothers front porch, watching the life leave his eyes with a satisfied grunt il say "not so funny now huh?"
Now, mind you, I may not be a Psychologist, but I think I know enough to say that you might need some help.
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Rentoku Gratzl
Holdfast Syndicate
Amarr Empire
5
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Posted - 2013.11.06 18:40:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Rentoku Gratzl wrote:Getting really pissed off with this now,
three times in four matches someone has stolen my drop ship. Two out of three times I ended up gunning in my own ship, then jumping out as it crashed. What is it with these arse holes stealing ships they can't fly?!?!
the last one really boiled my ****, he got in and flew upwards and just jumped out as if he was deliberately just being an ******** - 'alex muertes' character, PSN alexyfernando you are a fully fledged ****.
there should be some kind of fix on this, perhaps a delay preventing anyone but the person who called in the ship from getting in the driving seat for a short time? Why are you getting out of your own dropship?
I'm not getting out of my own ship, I'm not getting in them half the time before they get stolen!! |
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Humble Seeker
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
46
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Posted - 2013.11.06 18:47:00 -
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SILVERBACK 02 wrote:unfortunately that guy has the last laugh on you pal.. he is probly getting off on iit now thinking its funny trolling pilots^^ i feel anger for you not doing anything about it though...
personally anyone who did this to me i would hunt them down knock on their door embrace them into a hug and whisper "DUST 514.. dropship".
then look into his eyes, go for my 14" machette- plunge it into his stomach and do one quick swift motion upwards slicing though his internal organs then through his rib cage like a knife opening an envelope... as he clings on to me il lay him down and make him watch his own intestines spew out all over his mothers front porch, watching the life leave his eyes with a satisfied grunt il say "not so funny now huh?"
u wot m8?
"Surround yourself with the faithful, Stand together, for there is no strength like it under the heavens."
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
670
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Posted - 2013.11.06 18:57:00 -
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8213 wrote:I'm sorry, but with all the technology in New Eden, you now expect simple things like door locks??? GTFO!
But seriously, I lost an HAV today, because someone was able to get into it a millisecond faster than me. He didn't know how to drive it, and certainly didn't know how to activate the Armor Hardeners... Forge Gun ate it up in no time. . .
600,000 ISK... *poof*
I had a blue get in my tank and drive around the entire round. He never activated the Armor repper... NEVER
And then my tank finally fell to some guy with MLT swarms. The sad part is that the AV guy had to reload 3 times. The blueberry even let the guy drop a F***ing hive!
I sent him some mail asking why and he said he kept trying to use the armor transporter and it didn't work.
If you can't tell the difference between a repper and a transporter, you need to go back to COD
There there Mr. Scout and Ms. Heavy
You'll still me useful in my eyes
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
670
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Posted - 2013.11.06 18:59:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:Atiim wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:Vyuru wrote:I will say that if a scout is running towards the first null cannon at the start of the match, is like 20m from it, and someone rushes past with a jeep to hack it instead of continuing on towards the next NC, yeah, I got no problem taking his jeep for a joyride.
The yahoos who jack a vehicle and don't know how to use it, or it's something more expensive like a DS or HAV, yeah, I got issues with that. You guys have spent way too much time and ISK into getting to be able to use those vehicles, people ought to respect that. specced lavs are not cheap ur an ******* if u take any vehicle thats not a bpo saga Especially LLAV and Scout LAVs Those things are expensive as F*** i concur my logi lavs start at 200k end at 300 not CHEAP
My LLAVS is for transport, team repair, and resistance. and yeah in comparison to STD vehicles, they are expensive
There there Mr. Scout and Ms. Heavy
You'll still me useful in my eyes
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NinjaOnMyX
Forty-Nine Fedayeen
Minmatar Republic
4
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Posted - 2013.11.06 19:10:00 -
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Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:I want locks too, but I don't think we should judge all the blues too harshly. In all other similar games, like battlefield , free vehicles just spawn and then you jostle with other people to get it. The RDV delivery is likely seen by many new players as a similar system. Many, not all of course, will think vehicles are just free and random spawns.
We still need locks, but some education by the game to these new players would also be useful.
No......just....no.... I have plenty of back & forth Rage Mail that says otherwise. I even had the "Pleasure" of twice experiencing their stupidity via Voice Chat..... F**K them all...... |
XEROO COOL
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
101
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Posted - 2013.11.06 19:20:00 -
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I dropship to high points to lay out uplinks... god forbid I be nice and actually give someone a ride... as soon as I get out to set uplinks... they pop in the pilot seat and proceed to divebomb it straight into the ground like a ruhtard. RAAAAAAGEEEEE
Everyone has a plan until you punch em in the face!
(Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+
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Ares 514
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
108
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Posted - 2013.11.06 19:24:00 -
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Let's blame the MHPD for all this rampant vehicle theft. |
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