DUST Search - Respec Skill

Kira Lannister wrote:

This skill allows the clone to receive a memory wipe allotting their total Sp to be relocated.

Level 1 = 1,000,000 sp
Level 2 = 2,000,000 sp
Level 3 = 4,000,000 sp
Level 4= 6,000,000 sp
Level 5= 8,000,000 sp

Skill Book Cost=50,000 Aurum or 50 million isk

So basically, this would limit the community to 5 respecs total in their mercenary career, each time the sp penalty becoming more sever. I know you guys might be like HUR DUR WHY WOULD I SPEND 8 million SP ON A RESPEC WHAT A WASTE!

Well if it is your fifth time respeccing, you are a fotm player and should die slowly, or you have bad decision making skills.

Imagine your total SP is 64,000,000 SP, and you've specced into LOLScouts, and LolCommandos. Just a career of bad investments, yet now Shiny new MTACS come out, and amazing new skills.

Sacrificing 8 million SP to completely spec into a new class and be proficient might be well worth it...Just to get your 64 million sp back to completely spec into each races MTAC. This is just one example. The SP numbers came off the top of my head. I'm not sure how the exact numbers would work, but this is the general idea.

Keep respecing, keep sinking the sp, keep playing the game, keep interested.

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Kira Lannister Ancient Exiles 1797	Posted - 2013.11.04 18:22:00 - [1] - Quote This skill allows the clone to receive a memory wipe allotting their total Sp to be relocated. Level 1 = 1,000,000 sp Level 2 = 2,000,000 sp Level 3 = 4,000,000 sp Level 4= 6,000,000 sp Level 5= 8,000,000 sp Skill Book Cost=100,000 Aurum So basically, this would limit the community to 5 respecs total in their mercenary career, each time the sp penalty becoming more sever. I know you guys might be like HUR DUR WHY WOULD I SPEND 8 million SP ON A RESPEC WHAT A WASTE! Well if it is your fifth time respeccing, you are a fotm player and should die slowly, or you have bad decision making skills. Imagine your total SP is 64,000,000 SP, and you've specced into LOLScouts, and LolCommandos. Just a career of bad investments, yet now Shiny new MTACS come out, and amazing new skills. Sacrificing 8 million SP to completely spec into a new class and be proficient might be well worth it...Just to get your 64 million sp back to completely spec into each races MTAC. This is just one example. The SP numbers came off the top of my head. I'm not sure how the exact numbers would work, but this is the general idea. Keep respecing, keep sinking the sp, keep playing the game, keep interested. "The Ancient Templars will guard fearlessly the people, the land and the heavens of the empire." Book of Exiles 1:3
Roner General Ancient Exiles 159	Posted - 2013.11.04 18:26:00 - [2] - Quote lolscout.... f u kira
Aqua-Regia 517	Posted - 2013.11.04 18:30:00 - [3] - Quote no thanks GòöGòºGòºGòºGòºGòºGòºGòùGöÉGòôBPO / BPC Collector Gòû Gòó *SoonGäó* GòáGò¬Gò¬GòºGòñGòñGò¬GòñGòºGòºGòñGòªGò¬GòñGò¬GòªGòºGò¼GòínoneGòPGûá GòÜGòñGòñGòñGòñGòñGòñGò¥Dust 514 GòPGò¢§GòÆGòú00GòáGòòGòÜGòí00GòPGò¢
Kira Lannister Ancient Exiles 1798	Posted - 2013.11.04 18:31:00 - [4] - Quote Yes please. "The Ancient Templars will guard fearlessly the people, the land and the heavens of the empire." Book of Exiles 1:3
jamstar saa187 the third day Public Disorder. 55	Posted - 2013.11.04 18:32:00 - [5] - Quote im liking the Respec skillbook idea, and especially the part where you must sacrifice SP to be able to get the respec. Im not feeling the 100,000 Aur cost. though. paying the equivalent of $50 for a respec is a bit excessive me thinks.
Kira Lannister Ancient Exiles 1798	Posted - 2013.11.04 18:32:00 - [6] - Quote jamstar saa187 wrote: im liking the Respec skillbook idea, and especially the part where you must sacrifice SP to be able to get the respec. Im not feeling the 100,000 Aur cost. though. paying the equivalent of $50 for a respec is a bit excessive me thinks. Ouch its 50 bucks for 100,000 AUR? Maybe 40,000 aurum, that's just a cool 20 right? "The Ancient Templars will guard fearlessly the people, the land and the heavens of the empire." Book of Exiles 1:3
Auris Lionesse SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 0	Posted - 2013.11.04 18:36:00 - [7] - Quote Lol
Kallas Hallytyr Skullbreakers 55	Posted - 2013.11.04 18:43:00 - [8] - Quote I'll happily spend 1,000,000 SP on respec...then immediately respend it because I just got all of my SP back unallocated! It's not like you'd ever progress past the first rank anyway :P But seriously, I think respecs should be left in the realm of 'big game changes' (ie, skill tree overhauls, skill modifier alterations, etc) and 'CCP-side ****-ups' (ie, we actually meant to do X instead of Y, have your skill points invested in Y back to respend.)
Disturbingly Bored The Strontium Asylum 989	Posted - 2013.11.04 18:44:00 - [9] - Quote Actually, I like it. Minus the AUR cost, because that makes it pay for power. 50 million ISK skill book however seems appropriate... I like it because there's a definite up front limit, because it has escalating costs associated with it, and because it's just painful enough to not be abused. It averts all the things I hate about most respec ideas (which usually reward FOTM chasers). Kudos and +1. ¶Gêƒ__ Gò« Gû¿GûêGûêGûêGòáGëíGëíGëíGû¬ « GÇó GÇó GÇó GÇó GÇó GÇó GÇó GåÆFAT GATGåÉ pÇûGûôGûôGûôGûôGûôGûôGûôGûôGûôGûæpÇùForum Warrior LV 0 (900/1000XP) ¯Gò¦pÇôpÇù
Scheherazade VII 48	Posted - 2013.11.04 18:47:00 - [10] - Quote Yeh let me just spend 8m SP out of my 64m SP....... besides that this is a stupid idea. it allows people to do whatever the hell they want which goes against the core fundamental of the game which is grind for something and then use it. otherwise, what's the grinding for? this is not ******* call of duty!! GêÜGëêDUST VIDEOSGëêGêÜ

Kira Lannister Ancient Exiles 1800	Posted - 2013.11.04 18:54:00 - [11] - Quote Scheherazade VII wrote: Yeh let me just spend 8m SP out of my 64m SP....... besides that this is a stupid idea. it allows people to do whatever the hell they want which goes against the core fundamental of the game which is grind for something and then use it. otherwise, what's the grinding for? this is not ******* call of duty!! NO, you would have to spend 8 m sp,to get your 64 million sp back. Meaning you need to grind 8 million sp unallocated. This means your total would have been 72 million if you didn't want to respec, but just keep venturing into different minor weapons This would be your fifth and final respec, so it would have to be really FLIPPING worth it. Like you fundamentally want to change what you have because it is years down the line and you only specced into tanks because you were waiting for mtacs...or something similar. Like you want to spec into all four race assault suits, instead of having specced into the scout suits. I never played cod to know if they have sp or respecs....So I don't know if there is a level punishment like this system...You would be grinding 8 m SP WHICH TAKES QUITE A LONG TIME! Just to rearrange your sp. Which you probably would end up double spending on the same skills you want back. You are grinding. "The Ancient Templars will guard fearlessly the people, the land and the heavens of the empire." Book of Exiles 1:3
Awry Barux Shining Flame Amarr Empire 235	Posted - 2013.11.04 19:32:00 - [12] - Quote +1, this is the best and most balanced respec idea I've heard on these forums, if you remove the AUR cost. The SP penalty is sufficient, and I think the numbers are good the way they are.
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 2008	Posted - 2013.11.04 20:14:00 - [13] - Quote 500 million isk. 50 mil is nothing to a basement-dweller. No.
KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 794	Posted - 2013.11.04 20:17:00 - [14] - Quote Hmm I think the beforementioned "SP Rollback Booster" is a better idea. (The one which is activated and it slowly begins 'unlearning' a selected skill)
ALPHA DECRIPTER Dragon-Empire 604	Posted - 2013.11.04 20:55:00 - [15] - Quote @OP: that scout thing was uncalled for but the idea it self gets a +1. Also you should ignore VII as he doesn't know what da hell he's talking about. This system will not make DUST anything like Call of Duty. Choose Your Difficulty [Driver] - [Assault] - [Logistics] - [Tanker] - [Pilot] - [Heavy] >[Scout]<
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 4930	Posted - 2013.11.04 21:02:00 - [16] - Quote Great, yet another respec thread. CCP, please fix the Nova Knives. Thank you.
Eldest Dragon 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 282	Posted - 2013.11.04 21:04:00 - [17] - Quote Roner General wrote: lolscout.... f u kira What he said lol... I am a drug addict...I do dust everyday...just wanted to get that off my chest.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 598	Posted - 2013.11.04 21:07:00 - [18] - Quote But what happens if I wanna respec the SP from the respec skill? Revive Repair Resupply & Team Spawn (It's what I do)
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 603	Posted - 2013.11.04 21:23:00 - [19] - Quote 50m can be a bit excessive for players who don't do PC. How about 20m? And remove the AUR option. This game isn't p2w. But considering the fact that it would take lifetimes to have lvl 5 in every skill, a respec is needed at some point. Maybe have a free respec when you reach 5 million SP as well. that way when new players figure out how the skill trees work they won't have to QQ and re-grind the SP spent on worthless stuff, like derpsuit command level 5 Revive Repair Resupply & Team Spawn (It's what I do)
Kira Lannister Ancient Exiles 1803	Posted - 2013.11.04 21:30:00 - [20] - Quote Atiim wrote: But what happens if I wanna respec the SP from the respec skill? Infinite Respec! Luls this would be a seperate non-refundable skill. It would have its own tab, and not even be located in the skill section. "The Ancient Templars will guard fearlessly the people, the land and the heavens of the empire." Book of Exiles 1:3

Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 993	Posted - 2013.11.04 21:30:00 - [21] - Quote Or we could all just wait for 1.7 or 1.8 for the respec \([])/logic "The trick to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources..." Albert Einstein
Kira Lannister Ancient Exiles 1803	Posted - 2013.11.04 21:32:00 - [22] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: Or we could all just wait for 1.7 or 1.8 for the respec \([])/logic Assumption Logic=/=Logic "The Ancient Templars will guard fearlessly the people, the land and the heavens of the empire." Book of Exiles 1:3
General John Ripper Rippers Taco Shack 38448	Posted - 2013.11.04 21:57:00 - [23] - Quote Kira Lannister wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: Or we could all just wait for 1.7 or 1.8 for the respec \([])/logic Assumption Logic=/=Logic Logic approved. Dust 514's #17 Forum Warrior Founder of the Forum Warrior Club King of Tacos
Tebu Gan Dem Durrty Boyz Public Disorder. 187	Posted - 2013.11.04 21:58:00 - [24] - Quote Kira Lannister wrote: This skill allows the clone to receive a memory wipe allotting their total Sp to be relocated. Level 1 = 1,000,000 sp Level 2 = 2,000,000 sp Level 3 = 4,000,000 sp Level 4= 6,000,000 sp Level 5= 8,000,000 sp Skill Book Cost=50,000 Aurum or 50 million isk So basically, this would limit the community to 5 respecs total in their mercenary career, each time the sp penalty becoming more sever. I know you guys might be like HUR DUR WHY WOULD I SPEND 8 million SP ON A RESPEC WHAT A WASTE! Well if it is your fifth time respeccing, you are a fotm player and should die slowly, or you have bad decision making skills. Imagine your total SP is 64,000,000 SP, and you've specced into LOLScouts, and LolCommandos. Just a career of bad investments, yet now Shiny new MTACS come out, and amazing new skills. Sacrificing 8 million SP to completely spec into a new class and be proficient might be well worth it...Just to get your 64 million sp back to completely spec into each races MTAC. This is just one example. The SP numbers came off the top of my head. I'm not sure how the exact numbers would work, but this is the general idea. Keep respecing, keep sinking the sp, keep playing the game, keep interested. I like this idea, A LOT. Nuff Said
Crash Monster Snipers Anonymous 1729	Posted - 2013.11.04 22:16:00 - [25] - Quote Make it cheaper and make it AUR... and we've got a funding model.
Jadd Hatchen Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 7	Posted - 2013.11.04 22:29:00 - [26] - Quote Kira Lannister wrote: This skill allows the clone to receive a memory wipe allotting their total Sp to be relocated. Level 1 = 1,000,000 sp Level 2 = 2,000,000 sp Level 3 = 4,000,000 sp Level 4= 6,000,000 sp Level 5= 8,000,000 sp Skill Book Cost=50,000 Aurum or 50 million isk So basically, this would limit the community to 5 respecs total in their mercenary career, each time the sp penalty becoming more sever. I know you guys might be like HUR DUR WHY WOULD I SPEND 8 million SP ON A RESPEC WHAT A WASTE! Well if it is your fifth time respeccing, you are a fotm player and should die slowly, or you have bad decision making skills. Imagine your total SP is 64,000,000 SP, and you've specced into LOLScouts, and LolCommandos. Just a career of bad investments, yet now Shiny new MTACS come out, and amazing new skills. Sacrificing 8 million SP to completely spec into a new class and be proficient might be well worth it...Just to get your 64 million sp back to completely spec into each races MTAC. This is just one example. The SP numbers came off the top of my head. I'm not sure how the exact numbers would work, but this is the general idea. Keep respecing, keep sinking the sp, keep playing the game, keep interested. In theory (using boosters and whatnot) skill points cost my aurum (skill point boosters are bought using aurum). So you are effectively saying to use AUR for respecs. Although you are also saying to limit it to 5 respecs per toon.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 605	Posted - 2013.11.04 22:31:00 - [27] - Quote Kira Lannister wrote: Atiim wrote: But what happens if I wanna respec the SP from the respec skill? Infinite Respec! Luls this would be a seperate non-refundable skill. It would have its own tab, and not even be located in the skill section. You missed the obvious joke. Revive Repair Resupply & Team Spawn (It's what I do)
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 819	Posted - 2013.11.04 22:33:00 - [28] - Quote you know, they're giving you a triple sp week so you don't have to write these jackassey respect threads.
Kira Lannister Ancient Exiles 1811	Posted - 2013.11.05 18:49:00 - [29] - Quote low genius wrote: you know, they're giving you a triple sp week so you don't have to write these jackassey respec threads. I forgot to mention, no respecs for scumitars. I was thinking a negative SP counter for them... "The Ancient Templars will guard fearlessly the people, the land and the heavens of the empire." Book of Exiles 1:3


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