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Void Echo Federal Ground Deployment 2069	Posted - 2013.11.04 05:18:00 - [1] - Quote Before everyone goes on saying Quote: then everyone could be able to use them to their hearts content without repercussion of losing them or some other nonsense, id like to bring up some things about the officer weapons status once the player market becomes reality here. 1. Once the player market becomes reality for dust 514, officer weapons will no longer be attainable from salvage, they have never been able to be bought in the artificial market with ISK. 2. Once the player market comes, the amount of officer weapons currently in existence (say about 1000 through he entire community) will be all there is, no more will ever be given or attained, the only way to get one would be to buy from another player. 3. Once the officer weapons get used up by combat players, they will no longer exist outside the collectors (im a collector) who wont sell their officer weapons away. 4. When the very last officer weapon is sold and used in combat, they will never be seen again. So, i thought of something: Make one of each officer weapon in our inventories a blueprint, BUT not a blueprint we can equipped into our dropsuits. Instead, make it a manufacturing blueprint like in EVE online, where blueprints are used to create amounts of equipment depending on the amount of resources available to the manufacturer. Do the same to the officer weapons. Ex: i have 50 Balac's Gar Assault Riffle, i would pay 100M ISK (or somewhere around there, it cant be too cheap to where everyone could do it, and it cant be too expensive to where rarely anyone would have them) for ONLY ONE of my officer ARs to become a blueprint, i cant pay another 100M to create another blueprint of the same weapon, that blueprint would then be stored in my blueprint inventory where i can keep it until i have a way to get recourses from EVE online and create my own supply of them and sell them at my price, however the amount able to be made at any given time should be limited so they would still be rare.. the other Balac's i would own would be sold off and used up in battle. this can also be done for all the officer weapons in the players storage. This way the officer weapons would still be a rarity but never cease to exist and people could be suppliers. any thoughts? suggestions? trolling? Closed Beta Vet Level 2 Forum Warrior "In my experience love doesnt exist, only cold, dark betrayal does."
Void Echo Federal Ground Deployment 2069	Posted - 2013.11.04 05:25:00 - [2] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: I am speechless i can't even put into words my feelings about this... good or bad feeling... Closed Beta Vet Level 2 Forum Warrior "In my experience love doesnt exist, only cold, dark betrayal does."
Void Echo Federal Ground Deployment 2069	Posted - 2013.11.04 05:29:00 - [3] - Quote Awry Barux wrote: Allowing anyone any modicum of control over the supply of officer weapons will break both game balance and the player economy. the best way i would be set up is that these would only be in the hands of the players who can afford to make the blueprints, and they would only be allowed in PC battles.... which i haven't thought of how this would work. Closed Beta Vet Level 2 Forum Warrior "In my experience love doesnt exist, only cold, dark betrayal does."
Void Echo Federal Ground Deployment 2069	Posted - 2013.11.04 05:33:00 - [4] - Quote Brolaire of Asstoria wrote: I have to say No here... These weapons are of a caliber far higher than proto... Giving anyone the ability to use them as they please, without fear of loss, would mess this game up further than it already is... Not saying I wouldn't like infinity Krins in my armoury though... i just thought of this, im still trying to get a hang of how it should really be done. there will be a fear of loss, you cant use the blueprints i already said, you would have to pay ISK for an eve pilot or dust player to manufacture it and then be able to use it, and if your killed in battle with it, you lose it and have to pay for another. Closed Beta Vet Level 2 Forum Warrior "In my experience love doesnt exist, only cold, dark betrayal does."
Void Echo Federal Ground Deployment 2069	Posted - 2013.11.04 05:37:00 - [5] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Now what's wrong with the current system where everyone has a even chance of getting them. I mean i am all for the rich getting richer idea, but as i am looking forward to the future of dust and the new guys coming in i do feel like this will fck them because they will have to buy from the rich vets inorder to get a officer weapon. 100mil to get an Officer BPO is not a much as you think it is, i would have one of every type of BPO and i don't even play PC, the guys who do and are higher up in their corp hierarchy pocket billions from corp wallets. so 100mil for a BPO is nothing to them. in EVE online player market, only the richest corporations, pilots & CEOs can afford to get the highest skill ships and weapons available. Closed Beta Vet* Level 2 Forum Warrior "In my experience love doesnt exist, only cold, dark betrayal does."
Void Echo Federal Ground Deployment 2069	Posted - 2013.11.04 05:39:00 - [6] - Quote axis alpha wrote: 500,000 aur for bpo officer weapon. Omgp2wwtf?!?!?! ***** read it... YOU WONT BE ABLE TO EQUPED THE BLUEPRINT ONTO YOUR DROPSUIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Closed Beta Vet** Level 2 Forum Warrior "In my experience love doesnt exist, only cold, dark betrayal does."
Void Echo Federal Ground Deployment 2069	Posted - 2013.11.04 05:47:00 - [7] - Quote Leither Yiltron wrote: I get this sneaking suspicion that your impression of how salvage in public matches works is a bit off. Officer weapons have a very low drop rate in this context, but new ones are generated. When the player market hits, officer weapons will be enormously expensive because of high demand by high paying customers (people who play PC potentially have a lot of excess ISK lying around) combined with low supply. Officer weapons won't, however, run out or become collector's items. If you're indicating that there might be a need to have BPO's of officer gear in the sense of Eve Online's BPO's at a point in time where items in Dust are actually player manufactured, I'd say that's definitely a somewhat interesting discussion. Overall though it's rather academic- Eve has more than enough infrastructure to support distributing BPC's by the normal routes CCP uses to introduce items. this is on the terms of what i was going for, i read somewhere in the fourms a month ago that officer weapons will no longer be attained through salvage, so i thought of this to counter the extinction of the officer weapons in case that was going to happen.. other than that, it would be best suited for when the player market is completely integrated where everything is made and bought by players. Closed Beta Vet Level 2 Forum Warrior "In my experience love doesnt exist, only cold, dark betrayal does."
Void Echo Federal Ground Deployment 2069	Posted - 2013.11.04 05:48:00 - [8] - Quote Mobius Kaethis wrote: First off this is a stupid idea. Making such super powerfull weapons unlimited (read free) would massively unbalance the game. If I had a BPO of a Balac's I would use it every single match. I would rain rounds that do more damage than a duvolle down upon you from my 72 round mags at rates that would make you cry. Just imagine what the 30 mil sp players would do with them. No one should have permenant anything above basic level since it is simply too imbalancing. To follow this up thinking that the player controlled market would mean an end to salvage is stupid as well. In even you find officers equipment through salvage and they have a fully player run market (with the exception of certain items that is). Salvage mechanics are going to be a part of dust for the rest of the game and that is going to be the only way you can generate new officer's gear. once again ***** read it you illiterate elementary **, YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO EQQUIPED THEM. Closed Beta Vet** Level 2 Forum Warrior "In my experience love doesnt exist, only cold, dark betrayal does."
Void Echo Federal Ground Deployment 2069	Posted - 2013.11.04 05:50:00 - [9] - Quote Ld Collins wrote: Void Echo wrote: axis alpha wrote: 500,000 aur for bpo officer weapon. Omgp2wwtf?!?!?! ***** read it... YOU WONT BE ABLE TO EQUPED THE BLUEPRINT ONTO YOUR DROPSUIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Is there a link that says officer weapons wont be available from salvage anymore? i read it somewhere a month ago, like i said, i just thought of this under the suspicion that im right, if im not right then oh well, it was worth a try.. if i do find where it says this is going to happen, il link it in the 1st post. Closed Beta Vet** Level 2 Forum Warrior "In my experience love doesnt exist, only cold, dark betrayal does."
Void Echo Federal Ground Deployment 2069	Posted - 2013.11.04 05:57:00 - [10] - Quote Awry Barux wrote: Allowing anyone any modicum of control over the supply of officer weapons will break both game balance and the player economy. that's how it is in EVE Online, people control the supply for equipment and when the demand is high they make a profit, nobody cares about the poor newbie pilot who doesn't know how the economy works. Closed Beta Vet Level 2 Forum Warrior "In my experience love doesnt exist, only cold, dark betrayal does."

Void Echo Federal Ground Deployment 2069	Posted - 2013.11.04 06:25:00 - [11] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Void, you jester, you certainly know how to keep the atmosphere light lol i do my part. Closed Beta Vet Level 2 Forum Warrior "In my experience love doesnt exist, only cold, dark betrayal does."
Void Echo Federal Ground Deployment 2069	Posted - 2013.11.04 06:42:00 - [12] - Quote Mobius Kaethis wrote: Void Echo wrote: once again ***** read it you illiterate elementary **, YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO EQQUIPED THEM. To be fair I got bored after the first few paragraphs and just wrote an inflamitory reply based upon what you seemed to be implying. What is the point if you can't equip them? Just to hang them on your wall? Also, you're still failing to address the core issue here that your assumption of officer's weapons being removed from salvage is flawed. you obviously didn't read anything i posted. Closed Beta Vet** Level 2 Forum Warrior "In my experience love doesnt exist, only cold, dark betrayal does."
Void Echo Federal Ground Deployment 2069	Posted - 2013.11.04 06:46:00 - [13] - Quote Mobius Kaethis wrote: Void Echo wrote: Mobius Kaethis wrote: Void Echo wrote: once again ***** read it you illiterate elementary **, YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO EQQUIPED THEM. To be fair I got bored after the first few paragraphs and just wrote an inflamitory reply based upon what you seemed to be implying. What is the point if you can't equip them? Just to hang them on your wall? Also, you're still failing to address the core issue here that your assumption of officer's weapons being removed from salvage is flawed. you obviously didn't read anything i posted. Like I said I got bored after the first few paragraphs. Your writing was boring. ah, so your a kid with a short attention span and an illiterate. Closed Beta Vet** Level 2 Forum Warrior "In my experience love doesnt exist, only cold, dark betrayal does."
Void Echo Federal Ground Deployment 2071	Posted - 2013.11.04 07:13:00 - [14] - Quote Mobius Kaethis wrote: Void Echo wrote: ah, so your a kid with a short attention span and an illiterate. Naw. I'm an adult who knows how much boring text he can trawl through before throwing in the towel. Lets be honest, most of the stuff said on this forum is stupid and predictable. It just so happens I treated your post as such when it might not have deserved it. I apologize if I hurt your feelings by not reading everything you wrote and assuming your post to be something that it was not. You're still deflecting by the way. With zero evidence to back up your initial claim that officer's weapons will be removed from the game the rest of your post is invalid. and i still say you didn't read anything i posted, otherwise you wouldn't be asking that Closed Beta Vet Level 2 Forum Warrior "In my experience love doesnt exist, only cold, dark betrayal does."

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