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Nyx Linx Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2013.11.04 03:38:00 - [1] - Quote What's going to happen to noobs after the 1200wp academy? There is no transition. No real objective to the game modes. Any new player wants to share their experience with the game?
Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 2571	Posted - 2013.11.04 03:41:00 - [2] - Quote At the present time I'm dealing with idiot bluedots and one of them is named, "SWAG SWAG YO" So it's probably not good for me to say what I want to happen to new players at this present time. The newer the berry the dumber the juice.
Grease Spillett Ancient Exiles 9	Posted - 2013.11.04 03:41:00 - [3] - Quote new players don't know there are forums to cry on yet.
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1797	Posted - 2013.11.04 03:45:00 - [4] - Quote They take their lickings like the rest of us had to? Sinboto - The True Blood Minja. Forum Warrior level 1 Tryhard Veteran
VAHZZ Villore Sec Ops 9	Posted - 2013.11.04 03:47:00 - [5] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: They take their lickings like the rest of us had to? It was horrible..so many tongues... > Master of the Sniper and rookie NKer "Fear the dark, maddening world of the potato"
Cosgar ParagonX 7136	Posted - 2013.11.04 03:50:00 - [6] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: They take their lickings like the rest of us had to? Last thing we need to do is cut off our noses to spite our faces. We endured the terrible NPE because it was beta. Anyone coming in post 5/14 is going to expect a finished product with tutorials to teach them how to play and some kind of matchmaking to keep them from being pubstomped. I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
Auld Syne Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 130	Posted - 2013.11.04 03:50:00 - [7] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: At the present time I'm dealing with idiot bluedots and one of them is named, "SWAG SWAG YO" So it's probably not good for me to say what I want to happen to new players at this present time. P.S. I wan't joking. LMAAAAAAAOOOOOOOOO From what I see not a single person in the pic got over 1 kill
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 1178	Posted - 2013.11.04 03:55:00 - [8] - Quote The Academy went from 400 to 1500 to 2500 to 1200 all in about a 2 week period. Why 1200 was settled on, I'll never know. 2500 was just fine. 5000 wouldn't be entirely improper. This, based on a game with no PvE to really bring new players gently into the mix. Add PvE and things change significantly for the NPE Cheeseburgers.
Defy Gravity Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 130	Posted - 2013.11.04 03:58:00 - [9] - Quote Nyx Linx wrote: What's going to happen to noobs after the 1200wp academy? There is no transition. No real objective to the game modes. Any new player wants to share their experience with the game? I Agree 1+ Academy should be set up so once you hit 2Mil Skill points. Or Specified requirements to complete racial contracts. At Least 2 Million Skill Points. At Least 1 Proto Suit. At Least 1 Proto Weapon. Reason why is so you can compete with players who have already graduated. Upon Graduation you receive 500K skill points as a gift from the academy. GÇ£War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.GÇ¥ GÇò George Orwell
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1798	Posted - 2013.11.04 04:01:00 - [10] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: They take their lickings like the rest of us had to? Last thing we need to do is cut off our noses to spite our faces. We endured the terrible NPE because it was beta. Anyone coming in post 5/14 is going to expect a finished product with tutorials to teach them how to play and some kind of matchmaking to keep them from being pubstomped. Yes indeed, but there's a difference between teaching someone and holding their hands. Darksouls for example does a fantastic job of tutorials without telling the player what to do every step of the way, basic controls the menus ect, the rest is learned through your own trials(and many MANY errors). Sinboto - The True Blood Minja. Forum Warrior level 1 Tryhard Veteran

Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 992	Posted - 2013.11.04 04:06:00 - [11] - Quote They take it in the ass like the rest of us did. "The trick to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources..." Albert Einstein
Cosgar ParagonX 7141	Posted - 2013.11.04 04:09:00 - [12] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: Cosgar wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: They take their lickings like the rest of us had to? Last thing we need to do is cut off our noses to spite our faces. We endured the terrible NPE because it was beta. Anyone coming in post 5/14 is going to expect a finished product with tutorials to teach them how to play and some kind of matchmaking to keep them from being pubstomped. Yes indeed, but there's a difference between teaching someone and holding their hands. Darksouls for example does a fantastic job of tutorials without telling the player what to do every step of the way, basic controls the menus ect, the rest is learned through your own trials(and many MANY errors). Have you made a new toon recently to check out the improvements to NPE and the WP requirements to graduate from the academy? I think you should, you'd be surprised how much CCP is killing this game with horrible player retention. I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
OSGR Valdez MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN. 83	Posted - 2013.11.04 04:10:00 - [13] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: They take it in the ass like the rest of us did. Lol starting this game was pretty painful :P
OSGR Valdez MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN. 83	Posted - 2013.11.04 04:11:00 - [14] - Quote we could always give them 1m sp instead of 500k? (just a thought)
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1798	Posted - 2013.11.04 04:12:00 - [15] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: Cosgar wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: They take their lickings like the rest of us had to? Last thing we need to do is cut off our noses to spite our faces. We endured the terrible NPE because it was beta. Anyone coming in post 5/14 is going to expect a finished product with tutorials to teach them how to play and some kind of matchmaking to keep them from being pubstomped. Yes indeed, but there's a difference between teaching someone and holding their hands. Darksouls for example does a fantastic job of tutorials without telling the player what to do every step of the way, basic controls the menus ect, the rest is learned through your own trials(and many MANY errors). Have you made a new toon recently to check out the improvements to NPE and the WP requirements to graduate from the academy? I think you should, you'd be surprised how much CCP is killing this game with horrible player retention. I've not, However I believe I'll take you up on that sir. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja. Forum Warrior level 1 Tryhard Veteran
Tectonic Fusion 459	Posted - 2013.11.04 04:12:00 - [16] - Quote It's eZ mode for them. When I first joined, I got pub stomped for 3 months, then Uprising came out and I messed up the skill tree. Then I got another respec when I still did not know the best stuff to skill into. But I am recovering. On chromosome, I had like a .54 K/D, and now mine is at 1.23. Solo Player Squad status: Locked
Badonk Adonk Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 26	Posted - 2013.11.04 04:37:00 - [17] - Quote Lol new players simply delete dust after half an hour and rightfully so, dust is junk. Lol at all the tryhards saying new players should 'take it in the ass' (reported btw) You must be soooo proud to have wasted time and money on loldust. Are dust players mentally ill?
Rusty Shallows Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 462	Posted - 2013.11.04 04:39:00 - [18] - Quote Nyx Linx wrote: What's going to happen to noobs after the 1200wp academy? Funny how academy was supposed to fix the early unspeakable acts. This topic is so old. Whatever the problem with match making is the Dev's seem fairly well beaten. Just like academy graduates. If one doesn't give a dam about kdr the low level experience isn't so bad. I've been running Minja and every knife kill is a "huzzah," each death a, "meh," and every game a big isk profit since the suits are only 7k each. With less than 3 mil Skill Points he's an interesting enough change of pace. "She may not be Miss Right but she'll do right now," Thank you SR-71
Azri Sarum BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 111	Posted - 2013.11.04 05:18:00 - [19] - Quote Defy Gravity wrote: Nyx Linx wrote: What's going to happen to noobs after the 1200wp academy? There is no transition. No real objective to the game modes. Any new player wants to share their experience with the game? I Agree 1+ Academy should be set up so once you hit 2Mil Skill points. Or Specified requirements to complete racial contracts. At Least 2 Million Skill Points. At Least 1 Proto Suit. At Least 1 Proto Weapon. Reason why is so you can compete with players who have already graduated. Upon Graduation you receive 500K skill points as a gift from the academy. While I agree that having the Academy only for 1200 WP is laughably short, you can't require them to hit specific tiers of armor / weapons. You can do great in this game with advanced gear. A general SP threshold would be better imo. EVE - Victor Maximus DUST - Azri Sarum
Nyx Linx Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2013.11.04 07:54:00 - [20] - Quote A problem is that these noobs then join your team. Even if they are good, what are they going to do with bsc gear? If you start a new character you'll see the bull. There's something off in this game.

Cosgar ParagonX 7165	Posted - 2013.11.04 08:09:00 - [21] - Quote Nyx Linx wrote: A problem is that these noobs then join your team. Even if they are good, what are they going to do with bsc gear? If you start a new character you'll see the bull. There's something off in this game. It's because CCP decided that new player experience wasn't going to be their top priority on the final stretch before release. Instead, they came up with a short term solution- the academy. Intentions were good, (to save face) but what we need is for them to build on the academy by turning it into a tutorial experience and their introduction to New Eden and Dust 514. By the time they graduate they should know the basics when it comes to fittings, the menus, vehicles, equipment, racial suits, squad orders, and just about anything else the rest of us had to look up and ask around for. If you have a computer, DL a free trial of EVE Online and go through the active tutorial for a few hours. That's the kind of NPE that Dust desperately needs so that players don't come in here thinking it's just a F2P CoD with a layer of future aesthetics. I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
Nyx Linx Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2013.11.04 08:14:00 - [22] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: At the present time I'm dealing with idiot bluedots and one of them is named, "SWAG SWAG YO" So it's probably not good for me to say what I want to happen to new players at this present time. P.S. I wan't joking. must've been a tough match for them. ey, he got 2 kills. he was trying.
Anarchide Greedy Bastards 2337	Posted - 2013.11.04 08:25:00 - [23] - Quote Badonk Adonk wrote: Lol new players simply delete dust after half an hour and rightfully so, dust is junk. Lol at all the tryhards saying new players should 'take it in the ass' (reported btw) You must be soooo proud to have wasted time and money on loldust. Are dust players mentally ill? No, you are. Sorry if it makes you upset. Here, have a cookie. It has dust on it Level 2 Forum Warrior Hate Lord
Chibi Andy Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 634	Posted - 2013.11.04 09:16:00 - [24] - Quote i actually tried out the academy with an alt character out of curiosity and i must say i slaughtered those new players, went 31-0. i felt really sorry for them. i've seen players trying to destroy a turret with grenades and AR's. and a lot of them just running around like headless chickens. i think the 1200 WP is too little for new players to get an idea of how the game works properly, there's no real instructions for them to know what does what and such. once they reach the 1200WP from messing about, they get thrown into the wild where us wolves tear them to shreds, then they think this games too harsh on new players they leave and its only us closed beta vets and uprising vets left fighting each other. We abandoned the cause, our immortality is for hire!!! ßòÖ(GçÇGÇ+Gå+GÇ¦)ßòù
Nyx Linx Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2013.11.04 09:23:00 - [25] - Quote This is an alt, I was hell surprised when I started seeing protos and adv things. Then I looked at my wps and I past the 1200. With onl 512mil sp. There's no competition! Even from a vets standpoint, because you are killing newbies. Nothing to feel proud about. Yet agin who cares, I'm sure they going for SP and isk.
Chibi Andy Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 634	Posted - 2013.11.04 09:52:00 - [26] - Quote Nyx Linx wrote: With only 512mil sp. 512mil SP? i think you might just have THE highest amount for SP in the whole game and you still lost? lolololololol We abandoned the cause, our immortality is for hire!!! ßòÖ(GçÇGÇ+Gå+GÇ¦)ßòù
Mortedeamor WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL The Ascendancy 620	Posted - 2013.11.04 10:36:00 - [27] - Quote Nyx Linx wrote: What's going to happen to noobs after the 1200wp academy? There is no transition. No real objective to the game modes. Any new player wants to share their experience with the game? well they join normal dust matches with us and we make them quit playing ..match after stacked match is what awaits you get ready
ELITE INQUISITOR Eternal Beings 7	Posted - 2013.11.05 18:10:00 - [28] - Quote I think newbies should be in academy till they earn 500,000 sp. Then they will have a good foundation before joining general population. Total of 1,000,000 sp before in gp. If you accept your limitations you go beyond them
A'Real Fury D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 418	Posted - 2013.11.05 18:47:00 - [29] - Quote Whatever CCP does, be it increase WP to graduate from the Academy or PVE etc, they need to give new players somewhere relatively safe to go when the stomping gets too severe. You could even give them a free pass on graduating where for the first month no kdr stats are recorded on their permanent record while they learn to play the game.
Awry Barux Shining Flame Amarr Empire 246	Posted - 2013.11.05 18:49:00 - [30] - Quote Defy Gravity wrote: Nyx Linx wrote: What's going to happen to noobs after the 1200wp academy? There is no transition. No real objective to the game modes. Any new player wants to share their experience with the game? I Agree 1+ Academy should be set up so once you hit 2Mil Skill points. Or Specified requirements to complete racial contracts. At Least 2 Million Skill Points. At Least 1 Proto Suit. At Least 1 Proto Weapon. Reason why is so you can compete with players who have already graduated. Upon Graduation you receive 500K skill points as a gift from the academy. What witchcraft gets you a proto suit and weapon with 2 million SP?



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