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Kasote Denzara
A Vulture
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Posted - 2013.11.04 06:10:00 -
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Thoughtful post?
Where do we keep our ISK?
I go commando in my Commando. Feels good, man.
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Vyzion Eyri
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
1748
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Posted - 2013.11.04 06:36:00 -
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Hmmm. HMG balance is a tough one. I reckon CCP should screw balance and get all the racial items out first. If we balance only the Minmatar HMG now, it will probably fulfill the role of the Gallente autocannon in terms of range. The minmatar HMG shreds armour like nobody's business, that's it's job with a projectile damage profile. This is, if you like, it's niche.
What should be the 'AR of heavies' is the Gallentean autocannon, or whatever it'll be called. Just like the plasma AR right now, it should have a hybrid damage type, which deals a little more to shields than armour. It'll probably have more range too; like a stronger version of the current Assault HMG.
So much hassle, really. All balancing threads are great and their suggestions are impeccable based on current game content and mechanics, but all this can and will change. I really think CCP should drop tiers, get all racial content out, all new equipment, rebalance vehicles, then bring tiers back. Tiers are just creating unnecessary hassle and more sweat and tears ( ) for the balancing team right now.
> "I will show you fear in a handful of dust."
T.S. Eliot, The Wasteland
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Monkey MAC
killer taxi company
General Tso's Alliance
907
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Posted - 2013.11.04 07:17:00 -
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Doc Noah wrote:Why are you comparing HMG to assault rifle? Better yet, why does every single heavy feel that HMG IS A REQUIRED to use a heavy suit? If you want more range, then slap a damn AR on your suit. I do just fine with my HMG in CQC against ARs and I wasnt spoiled by HMGs range in chromosome.
All you heavies want is a weapon that can do everything and a suit that can take in everything.
Prehaps the reason most heavies feel the need for a HMG, is because its practically the only Heavy AI weapon. They want a weapon that fit in a longer range. Heavies shouldn't be CQC and AV only. You should have a selection of Heavy weapons for multiple occasions.
4 racial HMG
4 racial AV / Explosive
4 Niche Weapons
just like how the light weapons are going to end up, give them more options!
The pen is mightier than the sword
The gun is mightier than both
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star.
EoN.
1190
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Posted - 2013.11.04 07:20:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:Alpha 443-6732 wrote:No heavy weapon will be truly balanced until the AR crowd can accept the heavy's tradeoffs for overall better weapons. Are heavy weapons supposed to be overall better though? Higher DPS I can understand, but better overall? I always thought the Heavy traded speed for tank and equipment for heavy weapons, which are just different and perform certain jobs exceedingly well.
The only viable heavy weapon is the forge. Everything is better than an HMG, especially when you have scouts moving like they're on crack with PRO shotguns. Looks more like a good amount of lag to me.
Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star.
EoN.
1190
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Posted - 2013.11.04 07:22:00 -
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Doc Noah wrote:Why are you comparing HMG to assault rifle? Better yet, why does every single heavy feel that HMG IS A REQUIRED to use a heavy suit? If you want more range, then slap a damn AR on your suit. I do just fine with my HMG in CQC against ARs and I wasnt spoiled by HMGs range in chromosome.
All you heavies want is a weapon that can do everything and a suit that can take in everything.
No, heavies just want the expenditure of SP, and the lack of mobility, equipment and many slots to be balanced out with a ton of HP and superior firepower.
Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star.
EoN.
1191
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Posted - 2013.11.04 07:50:00 -
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I include myself in this too; during Chromosome, I was a tanker and a heavy. When I had enough SP, I started to go back into forge guns. Now that I have even more SP, I'm at ADV HMG, basic heavy, ADV hives and uplinks, PRO repair tools, and ADV Gal Logi.
If us pilots get a respec, I'm probably going to have to repurpose all those skill points into vehicles to fill out everything.
Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
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Vitharr Foebane
Blood Money Mercenaries
175
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Posted - 2013.11.04 08:15:00 -
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Rynoceros wrote:Alpha 443-6732 wrote:I am not a heavy, I am a pilot (tanker) Credibility lost. Go home. [/thread]
I am a heavy with lvl 5 in armor and shields, Pro 3 in HMG, and have plates maxed. 7\10 times If i round a corner and there is a gek there I die... in my "optimal" range. That is f*cking wrong...
Dedicated fattie in need of new heavy content.
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Chibi Andy
Forsaken Immortals
Top Men.
633
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Posted - 2013.11.04 08:44:00 -
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well im a dedicated heavy for my corp and was taking part in the EU CUP, i have to say as a proto heavy i cant even survive a core locus grenade 
to make us heavies as a viable infantry tanker, i think that CCP should change the armor plates, for example, scouts would have light armor plates, assault/logi should have medium and heavies would have the heavy armor, and each type of armor would have different armor numbers. that way you wont have a logi running around as if its a heavy with those armor plates.
otherwise with the current armor plates, assaults and logi's just slap on those armor plates and can tank as much as a heavy can and still be faster than us.
and with the HMG, well we can't do proper suppressing when it feels like we're shooting BB bullets at the enemy and at a reduced range when compared to other weapons. heck even though we are suppose to suppress the enemy, all they have to do is get a weapon that has longer range than the HMg and they SUPPRESS the heavy instead, its like a reverse role here.
so either CCP gives us back our sharpshooter skill from chromosome days or reduce some of those weapon ranges. but then again i would prefer it if CCP could just give us our heavy weapons already so that we can at least have something to compare to and see whether or not the HMG needs any changes.
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