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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.11.03 18:48:00 -
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I made this thread to have space for arguing with tankers, as the amount of times threads have been ruined because of our arguments has made me sick
So just run along now if you have no wish to be apart of, as I'm sure more constructive threads await you.
I may seem biased to some...
But in the end all I want is perfect balance between everything.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
563
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Posted - 2013.11.03 18:55:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Atiim wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Atiim wrote: Also, what if you poured all of you hard work into your AV, and the tank had about 100hp left and some dumbf*ck with a MLT forge gun was to blow it up and take ALL the credit?
I understand this is a team effort, and don't get angry over a "kill steal." If it dies, that's enough for me. I don't go apoplectic and suffer a stroke when a tank I was shooting at doesn't die. It's enough for me to chase it away for a minute or so, unlike all other infantry on here who understand nothing. If I die 4 times and lose 200k taking out a tank and some nooberry with a MLT FG destroys it when it is at 100hp and gets all the credit, of course someone would be angry, heck even thinking about it makes me angry. Why would I feel satisfied by "chasing it away for a minute or so"? Do you realize that if i simply chase it away then it's bound to come back a few minutes later? Do you realize that I get jack $#!t but a pat on the back for chasing off a tank for "a minute or so"? Understand nothing? Maybe your just too biased to realize that AV is not 100% rofleasymode and that there are challenges they face when using AV. The only challenges facing AV are the ones the user puts on themselves. I really don't understand the problem infantry has with not destroying a tank, but merely chasing it away. There's plenty of pilots better at driving than you are at using AV. If all AV was an insta-pop against tanks, do you really think anybody would use tanks? No, but then again, that's the whole end-game of infantry, to have tanks removed. Ask anybody I game with, my raging is legendary. But, I don't get angry when I merely chase away a tank instead of destroying it. You drive it off from pounding your team for a minute or so, that's not enough for you? So basically you believe that we shouldn't kill tanks, but chase them away so they can come back a few minutes later, farm about 20 more kills, and the be chased away again?
If I see a threat, no matter what kind of threat you're going to be destroyed, otherwise that same threat will come back to get you in the near future.
By that same logic, why are tankers not satisfied with simply scaring away infantry as opposed to killing them? Makes no sense does it.
If you are red, your dead. There is no "oh let's let it live so it can come kill us later when we aren't able to destroy it" BS mentality.
My endgame is to have a perfect balance between AV and Tanks. My main goal is the prevention of "Tank" and "Wirykomi" 514. And from what I'm seeing, either AV or Tanks in the future will become so non-viable that they will be rarer than nova knifes
I may seem biased to some...
But in the end all I want is perfect balance between everything.
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
1181
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Posted - 2013.11.03 18:57:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Atiim wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Atiim wrote: Also, what if you poured all of you hard work into your AV, and the tank had about 100hp left and some dumbf*ck with a MLT forge gun was to blow it up and take ALL the credit?
I understand this is a team effort, and don't get angry over a "kill steal." If it dies, that's enough for me. I don't go apoplectic and suffer a stroke when a tank I was shooting at doesn't die. It's enough for me to chase it away for a minute or so, unlike all other infantry on here who understand nothing. If I die 4 times and lose 200k taking out a tank and some nooberry with a MLT FG destroys it when it is at 100hp and gets all the credit, of course someone would be angry, heck even thinking about it makes me angry. Why would I feel satisfied by "chasing it away for a minute or so"? Do you realize that if i simply chase it away then it's bound to come back a few minutes later? Do you realize that I get jack $#!t but a pat on the back for chasing off a tank for "a minute or so"? Understand nothing? Maybe your just too biased to realize that AV is not 100% rofleasymode and that there are challenges they face when using AV. The only challenges facing AV are the ones the user puts on themselves. I really don't understand the problem infantry has with not destroying a tank, but merely chasing it away. There's plenty of pilots better at driving than you are at using AV. If all AV was an insta-pop against tanks, do you really think anybody would use tanks? No, but then again, that's the whole end-game of infantry, to have tanks removed. Ask anybody I game with, my raging is legendary. But, I don't get angry when I merely chase away a tank instead of destroying it. You drive it off from pounding your team for a minute or so, that's not enough for you? So basically you believe that we shouldn't kill tanks, but chase them away so they can come back a few minutes later, farm about 20 more kills, and the be chased away again? If I see a threat, no matter what kind of threat you're going to be destroyed, otherwise that same threat will come back to get you in the near future. By that same logic, why are tankers not satisfied with simply scaring away infantry as opposed to killing them? Makes no sense does it. If you are red, your dead. There is no "oh let's let it live so it can come kill us later when we aren't able to destroy it" BS mentality. My endgame is to have a perfect balance between AV and Tanks. My main goal is the prevention of "Tank" and "Wirykomi" 514. And from what I'm seeing, either AV or Tanks in the future will become so non-viable that they will be rarer than nova knifes But you've basically admitted you're not good enough to destroy tanks, because you insist on soloing them. Any argument is invalid because of that.
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Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
563
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Posted - 2013.11.03 19:04:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote: But you've basically admitted you're not good enough to destroy tanks, because you insist on soloing them. Any argument is invalid because of that.
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No. I've never said that I want to solo vehicles. It's just that the current way teamwork would "work" wouldn't be teamwork at all. It would be "lets wait for a few people to beat the tank down to near death and then blow it up with a FG out of nowhere and get the +150 and +50s.
Do you honestly think that this wouldn't happen? Do you realize how many people refuse to go AV when they see a tank? That is why I don't agree with the current "teamwork" model. Because it would punish me for being the only one smart enough to go AV when there is a tank on the field. And when someone knows that I don't have the power to destroy them, they won't be scared off, in fact, that would probably cause them to start attacking.
An on another note if you bring something on the field and your an enemy, why shouldn't I destroy it?
I may seem biased to some...
But in the end all I want is perfect balance between everything.
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Cosgar
ParagonX
7051
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Posted - 2013.11.03 19:06:00 -
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ITT: Both sides want relevance on the battlefield but can't admit that one can't exist without the other.
I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
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Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
1393
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Posted - 2013.11.03 19:22:00 -
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Why can't you just accept getting wp's for damaging us and stop asking for us to be paper?
'lights cigar' fuck with me, and I'll melt your face off. Gallente forever!
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
566
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Posted - 2013.11.03 19:33:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:Why can't you just accept getting wp's for damaging us and stop asking for us to be paper? I don't want tanks to be paper.
In fact yesterday I was in a match where 3 tanks got the drop on us and suddenly almost half the team went AV, while the other half was defending us from the infantry. All I could see is swarms, forge guns, missiles, and blaster rounds flying everywhere. I then thought to myself "This.. this is what AV should be".
But stuff like this happening is rare, and 98% of the time I am the only one who ever goes AV, so teamwork would never happen. Especially when you are the only squad against
I don't get WP for damaging you. I only get WP for destroying you. Implement this properly and i'll be on board
Atiim wrote: I don't want tanks to be paper
I don't want tanks to be god
But if you could put some salt on that popcorn.....
My endgame is not for tanks to be paper, I just want to prevent a horrific nightmare where nobody would ever want to use Tanks or AV
I may seem biased to some...
But in the end all I want is perfect balance between everything.
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