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Xerics
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Posted - 2013.11.01 00:49:00 -
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Back when flaylock pistols first came out everyone used them. They were the go to weapon. Some people even ran suits with dual flaylocks.
Now there is a new tactic of choice. Rooftop forgeguns. They need to go. rooftops period need to go. no roof snipers, no roof forge guns, no roof lasers. the roofs of every map have become worse then the old manus peak map with its giant mountain. At least with the mountain you could get up there. You cant get up on the towers to take them down because the only way to get up there is via dropship and with rooftop forgers you aren't getting anywhere close to them.
Even the "supposedly" best corps in the game cant win without them (I'm looking at you Ancient Exiles). There are two ways to fix this. The first is to remove the towers all together. This would make all unit fight on ground level or get up in the mountain areas where someone could still technically chase you down on foot. The other option is to change forge guns. There are also 2 ways to fix forge guns. The first is to remove the splash damage entirely. The other is to make it like the swarm launcher. Only effective against vehicles. Change it completely to where it is a charged shot that scrambles electronics making it 100% ineffective against infantry.
The forge gun was never meant to be an anti infantry weapon, just like the flaylock was never meant to replace your main weapon. |
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Posted - 2013.11.01 01:07:00 -
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Jacques Cayton II wrote:Stop crying if you get forged get a sniper rifle done. We heavies have 2 weapons leave us alone.
Forge guns are one shot direct or 2 shots with splash damage. Snipers can't even get a heavy dead in 2 head shots, not to mention after the first shot they can retreat back 5 feet casue you are forced to shoot up at them making them have cover you cant remove.
I guerss another way to fix those towers would be make them destructible objects that can collapse on people and kill them. This gives the heavies what they want I guess and lets us remove those pesky rooftops if we are committed enough. |
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Posted - 2013.11.01 01:17:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Hilarious that people talk about there's no honor in being a mercenary
But wants honorable war tactics to be used instead of cheap ones.
lol this is big boy talk. come back when you have experienced PC and having 4 forge guns rain down hell on you, and there is nothing you can do to remove them as there are some towers in this game that orbitals don't hit the tops of. |
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Posted - 2013.11.01 01:26:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:How exactly do you just get rid of roofs? No dropships, ladders or stairs? You are asking for a bit (a lot) too much. Also, it is fine when a Laser Rifle user goes on a roof.
You get rid of roofs the same way all other games do. Make a zone ceiling that prevents the drop ship from getting high enough to drop people on a roof. either that or make the roofs so ungodly high up that a forge gun shot cant reach the ground level before fizzling out. It really a simple fix to add a ceiling to the zones.
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Posted - 2013.11.01 01:36:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:In what world do you live in where rooftop forge gunners are considered "New" they have been around for good amount of time now.
Yeah they have been around but they have very recently become the staple. The game shouldnt be about 1 gun taking care of all your problems. this eliminates teamwork all together becasue you now just need 1 guy to watch a point that cant be killed.
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Posted - 2013.11.01 01:38:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:Getting rid of rooftops entirely would make a lot of the matches pretty stale. Having to dodge FG fire is pretty fun IMO. You're like, "Oh ****! A FG!" Then you start hopping around like a blind monkey. It's just another part of the risk/reward thing CCP has made. But I do agree, there should be other ways to the top of a tower. Sniper don't do **** to good Forge Gunners (unless it's a Thale's) so that's no use. As a secondary Forge Gunner myself, I sometimes even get shot at by 3-4 snipers all at once  There should also be more incentives to use a Breach FG against Vehicles vs an Assault FG against Vehicles. Maybe reduced damage with an increased blast radius? (Also, reduce the splash damage for that idea...)
lol having 4 proto assault forge guns shooting you from a tower you dont get time to start jumping around before you pop. |
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Posted - 2013.11.01 01:59:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:Xerics wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:How exactly do you just get rid of roofs? No dropships, ladders or stairs? You are asking for a bit (a lot) too much. Also, it is fine when a Laser Rifle user goes on a roof. You get rid of roofs the same way all other games do. Make a zone ceiling that prevents the drop ship from getting high enough to drop people on a roof. either that or make the roofs so ungodly high up that a forge gun shot cant reach the ground level before fizzling out. It really a simple fix to add a ceiling to the zones. Ha. No. We had low flight ceilings, nobody liked them. I have a better solution, add ladders to the tall towers. You want to play a game where you can't go on a roof at all because its "not fair", COD Ghosts should be out pretty soon.
lol COD is a game where all you have is one shots. Thats a terrible game and im surprised it has gone on as long as it has with its stale features, boring colors and samey game play. |
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Posted - 2013.11.01 04:02:00 -
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Happy Violentime wrote:Just another average thread about nerfing something so you don't die by it. War isn't fair! PC rewards people who are organised. If the other teams organisation allows them to get control of a vantage point then maybe your team needs to get better?
A heavy on the roof with a forge gun.. Oh my!!!!
lol 1 forge is manageable. 4 forges is not. You go against Ancient exiles with their 4 proto forges on the roof and you'll go negative,i guarantee it |
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Posted - 2013.11.01 04:06:00 -
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I did figure out a new equipment that could be useful against such BS tactics. Drone equipment.
Drone is launched from the suit where you take control of it. then you fly it using fighter jet controls, not the ******** dropship controls, and it can shoot missiles. Standard has 1 missile, advanced has 2 an proto has 3. missiles do all the same damage from level to level but they are more accurate then the turret missiles and hit like grenades with a splash radius similar to core locus grenades. They are also as small as infantry making them hard to hit with forges. The drawback would be that you lose control of your dropsuit so if someone sneaks up on you then you are going to lose control of the drone
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Posted - 2013.11.01 05:04:00 -
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they could also give us a jet pack suit to assault up there as well. a single ladder is easy to defend but when a guy could come from any side at anytime is where you need to watch it. |
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