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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
4851
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Posted - 2013.10.31 21:50:00 -
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Dunk Mujunk wrote:The OP may want to read the EULA/TOS on some other products/services. CCP is no different than other companies. Actual ownership of digital material is still a shady thing in a legal sense, and most companies tell you they can basically do whatever they want whenever they want to do it in regards to their product/service. It sucks it happened, but that's the way it goes. Standard operating procedure, and I doubt CCP is going to change anything. Lol believing they wont change doesnt stop people like me from trying, im not asking them not to change it im asking for a refund when they do. Keep dreaming, sunshine. And you keep supporting ccps bad customer policy sweety. Ccp alt maybe? As of yet you have failed to make 1 legit position as to why this should not be changed.
Wow, soooooooo intelligent that you assume that I'm a CCP alt. You just lost all credibility there.
CCP, please fix the Nova Knives. Thank you.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
4851
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Posted - 2013.10.31 21:52:00 -
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Guys, there's no reasoning with this OP. He'll just keep on ranting and accuse all of us of being CCP alts just because he was too stupid to not think twice about overstocking on an OP weapon.
CCP, please fix the Nova Knives. Thank you.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
4851
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Posted - 2013.10.31 21:53:00 -
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Gamemasters, I ask that you please lock this troll thread. This guy is just ranting for the sake of ranting.
CCP, please fix the Nova Knives. Thank you.
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Altina McAlterson
Pure Innocence. EoN.
707
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Posted - 2013.10.31 21:55:00 -
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Holy hell I'm just going to say it because I kept hoping the OP would stumble onto it. It's simple because if they didn't do it like this they would have to issue refunds every single time they changed something. Which is insane. People would demand refunds if they altered the skin on a rifle. There's no way to quantify whether it is a major or minor change and people would argue until the end of time. The only possible solution is to offer no refunds unless an item is removed from the game.
There, I've said it even though I wasn't going to try anymore.
"STFU I'm awesome, all your points are invalid as I kill proto's all the time nubs." - Infinite Diversity IDIC
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
145
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Posted - 2013.10.31 22:06:00 -
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Altina McAlterson wrote:Holy hell I'm just going to say it because I kept hoping the OP would stumble onto it. It's simple because if they didn't do it like this they would have to issue refunds every single time they changed something. Which is insane. People would demand refunds if they altered the skin on a rifle. There's no way to quantify whether it is a major or minor change and people would argue until the end of time. The only possible solution is to offer no refunds unless an item is removed from the game.
There, I've said it even though I wasn't going to try anymore. Ya bc they change AUR items all the time...... |
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
145
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Posted - 2013.10.31 22:07:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Gamemasters, I ask that you please lock this troll thread. This guy is just ranting for the sake of ranting. I like how your super bad and support super bad policy. |
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
145
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Posted - 2013.10.31 22:11:00 -
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Altina McAlterson wrote:Holy hell I'm just going to say it because I kept hoping the OP would stumble onto it. It's simple because if they didn't do it like this they would have to issue refunds every single time they changed something. Which is insane. People would demand refunds if they altered the skin on a rifle. There's no way to quantify whether it is a major or minor change and people would argue until the end of time. The only possible solution is to offer no refunds unless an item is removed from the game.
There, I've said it even though I wasn't going to try anymore. This relevant insight coming from a guy whos been gone for 3 months? Pffft |
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
145
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Posted - 2013.10.31 22:25:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:You missed my point, im saying they can change the values of even these items after you buy them with no refund or recourse. We got that point a long time ago. We've known about this since the beginning of Dust's development in closed beta. And by we you mean all the new players this post was specifically addressed too? Or the ive been here since the beginning and im part of the reason this game is phucked vets with 4500 likes but no idea how to promote player base growth? Is that who you mean by we? Just garbage... |
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
145
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Posted - 2013.10.31 22:47:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Gamemasters, I ask that you please lock this troll thread. This guy is just ranting for the sake of ranting. Lmao @ gamemasters, dungeons and dragons after this? |
Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
1305
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Posted - 2013.10.31 22:49:00 -
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Gamemasters, I ask that you please lock this troll thread. This guy is just ranting for the sake of ranting. Lmao @ gamemasters, dungeons and dragons after this? https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Gamemaster
He likely meant Moderators, but there are EVE and DUST514 GMs.
Closed Beta Vet
Reading the forums detracts from overall enjoyment of the game
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
145
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Posted - 2013.10.31 23:02:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Gamemasters, I ask that you please lock this troll thread. This guy is just ranting for the sake of ranting. Lmao @ gamemasters, dungeons and dragons after this? https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/GamemasterHe likely meant Moderators, but there are EVE and DUST514 GMs. Im sure right about both, but calling someone gamemaster sounds uhhh well ya. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
3511
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Posted - 2013.10.31 23:14:00 -
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Why would you ever buy 3,000 of something? Especially in a game where things are getting changed constantly. Especially in a game where the market value of an item is going to stay static. Especially on an item that so many people were complaining about.
I mean, you can only buy 100 at a time, so that means you had to sit there and make a market transaction 30 times, probably with some delays due to buying too many items too frequently. And not once during this time span did it cross your mind that you were making a poor decision? Also market values have not thus far stayed static, things have changed in price, note bpo modules, omega boosters, there is also for the, potentional of resale, with player market eventually, an item thats no longer available will be worrh alot. I'll give you BPOs, but omega boosters were specifically listed as an "on sale" item the first time around. Also the player market isn't coming for quite awhile. You missed my point, im saying they can change the values of even these items after you buy them with no refund or recourse. Which is detailed in the TOS
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Draco Cerberus
Hell's Gate Inc
455
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Posted - 2013.10.31 23:23:00 -
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:EULA. Read it. CCP can nerf the thing you bought, even if it was for real money. Again with the stupidity of telling us what we know, ya obviously they CAN do it my point here genius is that as a community those of us who spend real money may not want them to continue to do so. Welcome to New Eden....
One Universe::One Market
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
145
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Posted - 2013.10.31 23:24:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Why would you ever buy 3,000 of something? Especially in a game where things are getting changed constantly. Especially in a game where the market value of an item is going to stay static. Especially on an item that so many people were complaining about.
I mean, you can only buy 100 at a time, so that means you had to sit there and make a market transaction 30 times, probably with some delays due to buying too many items too frequently. And not once during this time span did it cross your mind that you were making a poor decision? Also market values have not thus far stayed static, things have changed in price, note bpo modules, omega boosters, there is also for the, potentional of resale, with player market eventually, an item thats no longer available will be worrh alot. I'll give you BPOs, but omega boosters were specifically listed as an "on sale" item the first time around. Also the player market isn't coming for quite awhile. You missed my point, im saying they can change the values of even these items after you buy them with no refund or recourse. Which is detailed in the TOS Lol good job man that you know exactly where the bad policy I want to change is located, how is that relevant? Of course its in the tos, who cares, if it gets changed it wont be. This has got to be the slowest minded group of trolls ever encountered. How man times haveyou all said in the eula, in the tos, etc etc etc, ya we get it, thats why its called CHANGE.
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
145
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Posted - 2013.10.31 23:25:00 -
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Draco Cerberus wrote:INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:EULA. Read it. CCP can nerf the thing you bought, even if it was for real money. Again with the stupidity of telling us what we know, ya obviously they CAN do it my point here genius is that as a community those of us who spend real money may not want them to continue to do so. Welcome to New Eden.... You accept, im not, im trying to do something about it. |
Patrick57
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
1164
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Posted - 2013.10.31 23:27:00 -
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:This is for new players only, experienced players and trolls can kick rocks. Ok new person check it, DO NOT BUY AURUM WEAPONS OR GEAR FROM THIS COMPANY. They will more or less rob you.
Ok so heres the deal, several months ago I purchased 3000 fused locus grenades from ccp, at the time you could carry 2 of them at a time, they had MUCH less fitting requirements and a greater blast radius, these grenades were nerfed due to the terrible influence of the council of planetary managment and complaints from bad players on these forums.
After this ridiculous rebalancing, as they called it which led to more CORES, lmao, being thrown I was still ok with it I simply put in a HELP TICKET asking that all that aurum be refunded. Mind you at the time this aurum came from a $100.00 elite pack that gave me 200,000 aurum
Now you would think that since I had spent this money and since the product that I had purchased fromm ccp had been changed from what I had agreed to purchase they would simply refund my aur? Big fat NO, from ccp on two diffrent help tickets. So remember buy NO AURUM WEAPONS OR MODULES until they agree to stop this criminal behavior. Welcome to New Eden.
EDIT: Damn someone beat me to it :/
:D
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
146
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Posted - 2013.10.31 23:34:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:This is for new players only, experienced players and trolls can kick rocks. Ok new person check it, DO NOT BUY AURUM WEAPONS OR GEAR FROM THIS COMPANY. They will more or less rob you.
Ok so heres the deal, several months ago I purchased 3000 fused locus grenades from ccp, at the time you could carry 2 of them at a time, they had MUCH less fitting requirements and a greater blast radius, these grenades were nerfed due to the terrible influence of the council of planetary managment and complaints from bad players on these forums.
After this ridiculous rebalancing, as they called it which led to more CORES, lmao, being thrown I was still ok with it I simply put in a HELP TICKET asking that all that aurum be refunded. Mind you at the time this aurum came from a $100.00 elite pack that gave me 200,000 aurum
Now you would think that since I had spent this money and since the product that I had purchased fromm ccp had been changed from what I had agreed to purchase they would simply refund my aur? Big fat NO, from ccp on two diffrent help tickets. So remember buy NO AURUM WEAPONS OR MODULES until they agree to stop this criminal behavior. Welcome to New Eden. EDIT: Damn someone beat me to it :/ Ya that excuse doesnt work for me, sorry, you all keep accepting though.
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Anarchide
Greedy Bastards
2314
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Posted - 2013.10.31 23:43:00 -
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Hey dude, just file a ticket and have a beer
Everything will fall in place
Level 2 Forum Warrior
Dog goes woof, cat goes meow
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
146
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Posted - 2013.10.31 23:58:00 -
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Anarchide wrote:Hey dude, just file a ticket and have a beer
Everything will fall in place Filed 2 tickets months ago. Both denied. Had lots of beer. |
Anarchide
Greedy Bastards
2314
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Posted - 2013.11.01 00:21:00 -
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Oh, then you lost. Have another beer.
Level 2 Forum Warrior
Dog goes woof, cat goes meow
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Malek McRoland
DUST University Ivy League
72
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Posted - 2013.11.01 00:59:00 -
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>grabs popcorn<
>looks at numerous pages of whining over 3,000 grenades<
DUDE.....it's a freakin' game. Please pull the Matrix cord from your skull and breath some fresh air. You may be right; when the AUR grenades got fixed, you got screwed.BUT.....BUT.....you bought 3,000!!!! That's what everyone is poking holes into your logic. Have you ever purchased 3,000 of anything in real life? No? Good, because only an idiot would do that.....wait.....you bought 3,000 grenades.....sooo......
And I'm with Maken Tosch. I'll stick around with my popcorn bowl as long as possible.
Demolitions Instructor
Event and Calendar Manager-Department of Education (D-UNI)
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Ghost Kaisar
R 0 N 1 N
741
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Posted - 2013.11.01 01:03:00 -
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Malek McRoland wrote:>grabs popcorn<
>looks at numerous pages of whining over 3,000 grenades<
DUDE.....it's a freakin' game. Please pull the Matrix cord from your skull and breath some fresh air. You may be right; when the AUR grenades got fixed, you got screwed.BUT.....BUT.....you bought 3,000!!!! That's what everyone is poking holes into your logic. Have you ever purchased 3,000 of anything in real life? No? Good, because only an idiot would do that.....wait.....you bought 3,000 grenades.....sooo......
And I'm with Maken Tosch. I'll stick around with my popcorn bowl as long as possible.
Not only that, but 3k nades at 15 AUR each?
3000 * 15 = 45000 AUR.
That's $20 worth of grenades.
That are now useless.
Think twice next time OP
EDIT: Eating popcorn here too. *MUNCH*
"All war is deception." "He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious" -Sun Tzu
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
146
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Posted - 2013.11.01 01:08:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Malek McRoland wrote:>grabs popcorn<
>looks at numerous pages of whining over 3,000 grenades<
DUDE.....it's a freakin' game. Please pull the Matrix cord from your skull and breath some fresh air. You may be right; when the AUR grenades got fixed, you got screwed.BUT.....BUT.....you bought 3,000!!!! That's what everyone is poking holes into your logic. Have you ever purchased 3,000 of anything in real life? No? Good, because only an idiot would do that.....wait.....you bought 3,000 grenades.....sooo......
And I'm with Maken Tosch. I'll stick around with my popcorn bowl as long as possible. Not only that, but 3k nades at 15 AUR each? 3000 * 15 = 45000 AUR. That's $20 worth of grenades. That are now useless. Think twice next time OP EDIT: Eating popcorn here too. *MUNCH* Numbers dont matter, the policy is the reason im here, so everytime you talk about how many I bought it negates the real issue, ccp policy.... Troll away, keeps my post visible, and new players wont read about your popcorn, they will read my post and thats all that matters, grabbing some popcorn as well.
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Ghost Kaisar
R 0 N 1 N
741
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Posted - 2013.11.01 01:10:00 -
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Malek McRoland wrote:>grabs popcorn<
>looks at numerous pages of whining over 3,000 grenades<
DUDE.....it's a freakin' game. Please pull the Matrix cord from your skull and breath some fresh air. You may be right; when the AUR grenades got fixed, you got screwed.BUT.....BUT.....you bought 3,000!!!! That's what everyone is poking holes into your logic. Have you ever purchased 3,000 of anything in real life? No? Good, because only an idiot would do that.....wait.....you bought 3,000 grenades.....sooo......
And I'm with Maken Tosch. I'll stick around with my popcorn bowl as long as possible. Not only that, but 3k nades at 15 AUR each? 3000 * 15 = 45000 AUR. That's $20 worth of grenades. That are now useless. Think twice next time OP EDIT: Eating popcorn here too. *MUNCH* Numbers dont matter, the policy is the reason im here, so everytime you talk about how many I bought it negates the real issue, ccp policy.... Troll away, keeps my post visible, and new players wont read about your popcorn, they will read my post and thats all that matters, grabbing some popcorn as well.
Ahem. Maybe we didn't drive this point home.
NEW PEOPLE DON'T NORMALLY GET ON THE FORUMS.
And by all means grab some popcorn. Don't know why you would bring food to your own roast though.
"All war is deception." "He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious" -Sun Tzu
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Malek McRoland
DUST University Ivy League
73
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Posted - 2013.11.01 01:14:00 -
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Grab popcorn; not nades. Save the Children of New Eden from pointless bloodshed....and pointless whining....
Demolitions Instructor
Event and Calendar Manager-Department of Education (D-UNI)
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
146
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Posted - 2013.11.01 01:27:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Malek McRoland wrote:>grabs popcorn<
>looks at numerous pages of whining over 3,000 grenades<
DUDE.....it's a freakin' game. Please pull the Matrix cord from your skull and breath some fresh air. You may be right; when the AUR grenades got fixed, you got screwed.BUT.....BUT.....you bought 3,000!!!! That's what everyone is poking holes into your logic. Have you ever purchased 3,000 of anything in real life? No? Good, because only an idiot would do that.....wait.....you bought 3,000 grenades.....sooo......
And I'm with Maken Tosch. I'll stick around with my popcorn bowl as long as possible. Not only that, but 3k nades at 15 AUR each? 3000 * 15 = 45000 AUR. That's $20 worth of grenades. That are now useless. Think twice next time OP EDIT: Eating popcorn here too. *MUNCH* Numbers dont matter, the policy is the reason im here, so everytime you talk about how many I bought it negates the real issue, ccp policy.... Troll away, keeps my post visible, and new players wont read about your popcorn, they will read my post and thats all that matters, grabbing some popcorn as well. Ahem. Maybe we didn't drive this point home. NEW PEOPLE DON'T NORMALLY GET ON THE FORUMS. And by all means grab some popcorn. Don't know why you would bring food to your own roast though. This is my show nub, your just acting your part, trolls help maintain position of the post. |
Malek McRoland
DUST University Ivy League
73
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Posted - 2013.11.01 01:28:00 -
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Alternatively, you could have just said "Don't buy 3,000 items at a time, since re-balancing will happen frequently in this game"
You would have had a relatively quiet post then.
Demolitions Instructor
Event and Calendar Manager-Department of Education (D-UNI)
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