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Tech De Ra
Electronic Sports League
74
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Posted - 2013.10.31 10:10:00 -
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Tech De Ra wrote:INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Why would you ever buy 3,000 of something? Especially in a game where things are getting changed constantly. Especially in a game where the market value of an item is going to stay static. Especially on an item that so many people were complaining about.
I mean, you can only buy 100 at a time, so that means you had to sit there and make a market transaction 30 times, probably with some delays due to buying too many items too frequently. And not once during this time span did it cross your mind that you were making a poor decision? At the time dust had refunded aur items in the past, plus people were not complaining at the time, ive had these awhile. Plus you assume I knew all about dust, have you all forgotten what being new to this game was like? I purchased these things with less 2 mill sp. You dont know what you dont know. As opposed to finding fault with me why dont you explain whats wrong with a policy change to aur refund. Im, sure none of the people that have lots of aur maddys will expect, a refund after the change. Or all of you enforcer class tankers wont care about that sp? How about assault and logi ds pilots? Ya think on it, its bad policy and you know it and if, your attention was where it should be maybe WE could do something about it. Instead you failures troll the op, not bc you care one way or the other but bc your failing at video games, life, whatever. you mean during the beta when they rewet all accounts? well you could petition for an account reset for your refund i guess, but then you lose all your sp you have noone to blame but yourself, things get balanced all the time Ok noted your not new and you agree with ccp, why are you here? Things never get balanced they get changed due to who is crying the loudest. Personally, Idc that they do, im simply saying that when something is changed aur items should be refunded. If you dont agree with that go back to fw, so I can continue smashing on you and try to get good enough that someone will care about your desire to let ccp keep sticking it up your ass, I dont share your disposition.
It's ok, i don't mind if you try to attack me over the forums, i'm not the one who bought 3000 contact nades without considering the fact they will get balaced at some point
Tech De Ra // Electronic Sports League Games Co-ordinator
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
110
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Posted - 2013.10.31 10:11:00 -
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Rasatsu wrote:This is the classic kind of EVE thread where one should point and laugh at the OP. Or stfu and go away, this is for people who actually spend money. Ccp doesnt take obama stamps yet. |
Tech De Ra
Electronic Sports League
74
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Posted - 2013.10.31 10:20:00 -
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infact, i still have about 80 of the 200 necromancer nanite injectors from when they were OP, they got balaced, im ok with it.
same thing as your grenades, but you bought 3000
Tech De Ra // Electronic Sports League Games Co-ordinator
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
110
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Posted - 2013.10.31 10:22:00 -
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Tech De Ra wrote:INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Tech De Ra wrote:INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Why would you ever buy 3,000 of something? Especially in a game where things are getting changed constantly. Especially in a game where the market value of an item is going to stay static. Especially on an item that so many people were complaining about.
I mean, you can only buy 100 at a time, so that means you had to sit there and make a market transaction 30 times, probably with some delays due to buying too many items too frequently. And not once during this time span did it cross your mind that you were making a poor decision? At the time dust had refunded aur items in the past, plus people were not complaining at the time, ive had these awhile. Plus you assume I knew all about dust, have you all forgotten what being new to this game was like? I purchased these things with less 2 mill sp. You dont know what you dont know. As opposed to finding fault with me why dont you explain whats wrong with a policy change to aur refund. Im, sure none of the people that have lots of aur maddys will expect, a refund after the change. Or all of you enforcer class tankers wont care about that sp? How about assault and logi ds pilots? Ya think on it, its bad policy and you know it and if, your attention was where it should be maybe WE could do something about it. Instead you failures troll the op, not bc you care one way or the other but bc your failing at video games, life, whatever. you mean during the beta when they rewet all accounts? well you could petition for an account reset for your refund i guess, but then you lose all your sp you have noone to blame but yourself, things get balanced all the time Ok noted your not new and you agree with ccp, why are you here? Things never get balanced they get changed due to who is crying the loudest. Personally, Idc that they do, im simply saying that when something is changed aur items should be refunded. If you dont agree with that go back to fw, so I can continue smashing on you and try to get good enough that someone will care about your desire to let ccp keep sticking it up your ass, I dont share your disposition. It's ok, i don't mind if you try to attack me over the forums, i'm not the one who bought 3000 contact nades without considering the fact they will get balaced at some point Ya the disclaimer wasnt on the packaging, as I said I was new, im attacking you because your an idiot wasting my time with no usefull information. Let me try to say it one more time for the ****** at esl, this isnt my grenades, its about changing a company policy. Do you understand that? So that ccp cant just change anything we buy in order to do things like influence player market one day to drive sales, or change bpo, or boosters, do you understand that as of now they can? Wow how can we have such an ignorant player base. Just go away dude damn your ability to repeat the clone save a ho catch phrase along with all the other mind blowingly stupid people in here of "things get nerfed all the time" is so old and worn out. Its adapt or die, ccp needs to adapt to a more business friendly customer oriented model, particularly with a customer who has spent hundreds of dollars on this game.
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
110
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Posted - 2013.10.31 10:23:00 -
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Tech De Ra wrote:infact, i still have about 80 of the 200 necromancer nanite injectors from when they were OP, they got balaced, im ok with it.
same thing as your grenades, but you bought 3000 Good man go ask them for a job. |
Tech De Ra
Electronic Sports League
74
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Posted - 2013.10.31 10:36:00 -
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I think you'll find that the "disclaimer" you are looking for will be in the eula and/or the tos
Tech De Ra // Electronic Sports League Games Co-ordinator
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Musta Tornius
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
643
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Posted - 2013.10.31 10:39:00 -
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These tears are utterly delicious. |
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
110
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Posted - 2013.10.31 10:58:00 -
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Musta Tornius wrote:These tears are utterly delicious. No tears here 4 eyes, just clones in action, now why dont you and the esl **** boy make friends and you can pleasure him up his amarr skirt with that lance armstrong helmet head you armor sluggish nubs are so famous for? |
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
110
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Posted - 2013.10.31 11:03:00 -
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Tech De Ra wrote:I think you'll find that the "disclaimer" you are looking for will be in the eula and/or the tos Wow omfg, you are slow huh? Ya dude ive acknowledged it about 15 times now, thats the key word in change company policy. CHANGE.... Because the policy that exists I dont like. Are you tracking now? Damn there was obviously no dha in your formula. Is it possible your foreign that would at least make sense? Cause dude if you are from an english speaking country you are super slooooooow.... |
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
110
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Posted - 2013.10.31 11:04:00 -
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Musta Tornius wrote:These tears are utterly delicious. Ahhh ya those arent tears, thats clone j I z z good eh? I think you might have some still on your lips there. |
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Musta Tornius
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
644
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Posted - 2013.10.31 11:06:00 -
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Two replies huh, I must be on to something ;) |
Tech De Ra
Electronic Sports League
75
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Posted - 2013.10.31 11:06:00 -
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Tech De Ra wrote:I think you'll find that the "disclaimer" you are looking for will be in the eula and/or the tos Wow omfg, you are slow huh? Ya dude ive acknowledged it about 15 times now, thats the key word in change company policy. CHANGE.... Because the policy that exists I dont like. Are you tracking now? Damn there was obviously no dha in your formula. Is it possible your foreign that would at least make sense? Cause dude if you are from an english speaking country you are super slooooooow....
Oh, so you are just complaining for the sake of complaining?
Cool, good luck with that, it won't get you anywhere
Tech De Ra // Electronic Sports League Games Co-ordinator
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Ghost Kaisar
R 0 N 1 N
724
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Posted - 2013.10.31 13:22:00 -
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:This is for new players only, experienced players and trolls can kick rocks. Ok new person check it, DO NOT BUY AURUM WEAPONS OR GEAR FROM THIS COMPANY. They will more or less rob you.
Ok so heres the deal, several months ago I purchased 3000 fused locus grenades from ccp, at the time you could carry 2 of them at a time, they had MUCH less fitting requirements and a greater blast radius, these grenades were nerfed due to the terrible influence of the council of planetary managment and complaints from bad players on these forums.
After this ridiculous rebalancing, as they called it which led to more CORES, lmao, being thrown I was still ok with it I simply put in a HELP TICKET asking that all that aurum be refunded. Mind you at the time this aurum came from a $100.00 elite pack that gave me 200,000 aurum
Now you would think that since I had spent this money and since the product that I had purchased fromm ccp had been changed from what I had agreed to purchase they would simply refund my aur? Big fat NO, from ccp on two diffrent help tickets. So remember buy NO AURUM WEAPONS OR MODULES until they agree to stop this criminal behavior. So you are telling me that you bought 3k Fused Nades, and are now mad that they are worth nothing? God forbid you go to the stock market one day. You bought in bulk, and are now paying the consequence. DEAL WITH IT. This wasnt a stock noob it was a product I paid for stop defending it troll, get your garbage ass own somewhere if your going to defend bad company policy ccp **** boy.
I stocked up on 100 of them myself, I just didn't go and buy 3k of them. WHY WOULD YOU BUY THAT MANY?
You can always just stock up later, and by taking out such a huge amount you put yourself at risk.
Same thing happened to me with the SAGA-II's, and now I have 100 of those I can't use either.
But you know what, I knew that I was taking a risk when buying in bulk, and wasn't really surprised at what happened.
TL;DR Get over it. Nothing you can do, you should have seen it coming, and no amount of insults will convince me that you are not an idiot.
Have a nice day.
"All war is deception." "He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious" -Sun Tzu
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Drapedup Drippedout
G.U.T.Z
67
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Posted - 2013.10.31 13:41:00 -
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:This is for new players only, experienced players and trolls can kick rocks. Ok new person check it, DO NOT BUY AURUM WEAPONS OR GEAR FROM THIS COMPANY. They will more or less rob you.
Ok so heres the deal, several months ago I purchased 3000 fused locus grenades from ccp, at the time you could carry 2 of them at a time, they had MUCH less fitting requirements and a greater blast radius, these grenades were nerfed due to the terrible influence of the council of planetary managment and complaints from bad players on these forums.
After this ridiculous rebalancing, as they called it which led to more CORES, lmao, being thrown I was still ok with it I simply put in a HELP TICKET asking that all that aurum be refunded. Mind you at the time this aurum came from a $100.00 elite pack that gave me 200,000 aurum
Now you would think that since I had spent this money and since the product that I had purchased fromm ccp had been changed from what I had agreed to purchase they would simply refund my aur? Big fat NO, from ccp on two diffrent help tickets. So remember buy NO AURUM WEAPONS OR MODULES until they agree to stop this criminal behavior.
Hate to say it IDIC, but you got hosed. Prior to nerfing these grenades CCP released a statement on forums saying that they were going to change base stats for the fused locus grenades, but refused to go into any detail saying 'wait and see'. Under such pretenses, you, myself, and others tried to stock up on them before they got "reworked". We knew full well prior to 1.4 that they were changing we just didn't know how, come to find out they added 30 cpu to the requirements and dropped the load from x2 to x1. Yeah it sucks, yeah it happened, but we were made aware they would be 'reworking' the grenades because, be real, at the time they were OP, OP, OP. C'mon, 2 detonate on impact grenades that hit at 400+? Those got you out of ANY close call and required no skill. I still have 500 of them or so, they are fun as hell on my adv or bpo suits. You toss a grenade and "insert protostomper here" runs at you thinking the grenade still has 2 seconds before exploding and POOF he's 40m in the air. |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
2093
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Posted - 2013.10.31 13:47:00 -
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Wow ! ..... just..... wow......3000 fused locus grenades ? Do you really want to win so badly ?
Seriously ....CCP just toke you money and called you a LOSER !!!
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trraacx
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
8
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Posted - 2013.10.31 14:00:00 -
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Ignoring all of the questions about the OP actual intent, CCP should offer refunds on remaing AUR purchased stuff just because it is a good business mode. Whoever takes the refund is just going to turn around and respend it on some other AUR item.
If the item was part of a package there isn't much they can do about that.
I have no skin in the game, I lose equipment way to fast to spen AUR on it. But anyone with even an internet education in business practices would recognize that they stand to make a lot more money off of keeping people happy than they will by pissing them off. |
SteelDark Knight
Ancient Exiles
136
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Posted - 2013.10.31 14:16:00 -
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trraacx wrote:Ignoring all of the questions about the OP actual intent, CCP should offer refunds on remaing AUR purchased stuff just because it is a good business mode. Whoever takes the refund is just going to turn around and respend it on some other AUR item.
If the item was part of a package there isn't much they can do about that.
I have no skin in the game, I lose equipment way to fast to spen AUR on it. But anyone with even an internet education in business practices would recognize that they stand to make a lot more money off of keeping people happy than they will by pissing them off.
This.
While the OP has done a horrible job arguing his point I have a hard time agreeing with anyone that feels it is acceptable to make a major change to a AUR item and offer no recourse to the buyer. |
Hecarim Van Hohen
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
201
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Posted - 2013.10.31 14:19:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Wow ! ..... just..... wow......3000 fused locus grenades ? Do you really want to win that badly ? My thoughts exactly :D Who the f buys 3000 AUR grenades :DDD
Divided we stand united we fall
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bethany valvetino
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
126
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Posted - 2013.10.31 14:21:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Unless this is about the BPOs, which are much more expensive than your cheap ass grenades, this thread is pointless.
it's pointless anyway...
great advice by the way, some one got butt hurt cos they bought a mind bogglingly stupid amount of nades, cos they were OP.. wasn't blessed with the most basic understanding of the game, so then has a massive fit when his toys get nerfed...
So, rather than petitioning CCP and asking if they would refund his spend or looking over his set ups to make them work.... he jumps on here and insists we all stop playing for the game...
Great work mate.... Your complete lack of commercial understand is shocking.
Let me try and dumb this down for you.
No Buyee Aurum... no getty game... |
Ripley Riley
Pheonix Corp Selectus Infinitus Unitas
16
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Posted - 2013.10.31 14:44:00 -
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:This is for new players only, experienced players and trolls can kick rocks. Ok new person check it, DO NOT BUY AURUM WEAPONS OR GEAR FROM THIS COMPANY. They will more or less rob you.
Ok so heres the deal, several months ago I purchased 3000 fused locus grenades from ccp, at the time you could carry 2 of them at a time, they had MUCH less fitting requirements and a greater blast radius, these grenades were nerfed due to the terrible influence of the council of planetary managment and complaints from bad players on these forums.
After this ridiculous rebalancing, as they called it which led to more CORES, lmao, being thrown I was still ok with it I simply put in a HELP TICKET asking that all that aurum be refunded. Mind you at the time this aurum came from a $100.00 elite pack that gave me 200,000 aurum
Now you would think that since I had spent this money and since the product that I had purchased fromm ccp had been changed from what I had agreed to purchase they would simply refund my aur? Big fat NO, from ccp on two diffrent help tickets. So remember buy NO AURUM WEAPONS OR MODULES until they agree to stop this criminal behavior.
Why are you spending real money on equipment anyway? CCP levied a stupid tax on you then you paid in full. Now that you have learned this valuable lesson for the low, low price of 3,000 AUR grenades you can purchase boosters from now on. |
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
1474
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Posted - 2013.10.31 17:44:00 -
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No one in their right mind would buy 3000 of a single item.
Immortal Guides, supporting knowledge dissemination in New Eden since August 31, 2013.
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Ghost Kaisar
R 0 N 1 N
726
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Posted - 2013.10.31 17:51:00 -
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Fox Gaden wrote:No one in their right mind would buy 3000 of a single item.
EXACTLY
"All war is deception." "He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious" -Sun Tzu
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
112
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Posted - 2013.10.31 19:04:00 -
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Hecarim Van Hohen wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Wow ! ..... just..... wow......3000 fused locus grenades ? Do you really want to win that badly ? My thoughts exactly :D Who the f buys 3000 AUR grenades :DDD Someone with more aur than you? |
Ghost Kaisar
R 0 N 1 N
726
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Posted - 2013.10.31 19:06:00 -
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Hecarim Van Hohen wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Wow ! ..... just..... wow......3000 fused locus grenades ? Do you really want to win that badly ? My thoughts exactly :D Who the f buys 3000 AUR grenades :DDD Someone with more aur than you?
WATCH OUT
"All war is deception." "He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious" -Sun Tzu
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Tech De Ra
Electronic Sports League
87
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Posted - 2013.10.31 19:11:00 -
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Hecarim Van Hohen wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Wow ! ..... just..... wow......3000 fused locus grenades ? Do you really want to win that badly ? My thoughts exactly :D Who the f buys 3000 AUR grenades :DDD Someone with more aur than you?
not anymore you dont :P
Tech De Ra // Electronic Sports League Games Co-ordinator
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
113
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Posted - 2013.10.31 19:13:00 -
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bethany valvetino wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Unless this is about the BPOs, which are much more expensive than your cheap ass grenades, this thread is pointless. it's pointless anyway... great advice by the way, some one got butt hurt cos they bought a mind bogglingly stupid amount of nades, cos they were OP.. wasn't blessed with the most basic understanding of the game, so then has a massive fit when his toys get nerfed... So, rather than petitioning CCP and asking if they would refund his spend or looking over his set ups to make them work.... he jumps on here and insists we all stop playing for the game... Great work mate.... Your complete lack of commercial understand is shocking. Let me try and dumb this down for you. No Buyee Aurum... no getty game... I put in 2 help tickets you ******* noob get good, ive said this isnt about my grenades, its about a company policy that atm says it can change anything we buy with aur, including bpo and boosters, now your lack of commercial understanding means you do not see the flaw in this business model, and once again your supporting bad game killing policy of ccp and instead of being constructive your trolling the op because you obviously dont understand the implications or consequences of that attitude. Do you think ccp stands to lose or make money from people not buying in bulk because things might get changeg with no refund? Do you think this adversely affects the game with less money? Ya dont be a douche, and dont call me mate either, thats just one syllable away from you, wanting to suck me off... |
Tech De Ra
Electronic Sports League
87
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Posted - 2013.10.31 19:16:00 -
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote: its about a company policy that atm says it can change anything we buy with aur, including bpo and boosters, now your lack of commercial understanding means you do not see the flaw in this business model
I don't think you understand what a good business model is
If everyone could get refunds for stuff they bought, how would the game make money?
Tech De Ra // Electronic Sports League Games Co-ordinator
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
113
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Posted - 2013.10.31 19:16:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Hecarim Van Hohen wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Wow ! ..... just..... wow......3000 fused locus grenades ? Do you really want to win that badly ? My thoughts exactly :D Who the f buys 3000 AUR grenades :DDD Someone with more aur than you? WATCH OUT I am when I fight those garbage ass wandering samurais. Except for you draco we are still cool inspite of your ******** ass corp mate. |
Dust Junky 4Life
Shitstorm Inc
108
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Posted - 2013.10.31 19:17:00 -
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:This is for new players only, experienced players and trolls can kick rocks. Ok new person check it, DO NOT BUY AURUM WEAPONS OR GEAR FROM THIS COMPANY. They will more or less rob you.
Ok so heres the deal, several months ago I purchased 3000 fused locus grenades from ccp, at the time you could carry 2 of them at a time, they had MUCH less fitting requirements and a greater blast radius, these grenades were nerfed due to the terrible influence of the council of planetary managment and complaints from bad players on these forums.
After this ridiculous rebalancing, as they called it which led to more CORES, lmao, being thrown I was still ok with it I simply put in a HELP TICKET asking that all that aurum be refunded. Mind you at the time this aurum came from a $100.00 elite pack that gave me 200,000 aurum
Now you would think that since I had spent this money and since the product that I had purchased fromm ccp had been changed from what I had agreed to purchase they would simply refund my aur? Big fat NO, from ccp on two diffrent help tickets. So remember buy NO AURUM WEAPONS OR MODULES until they agree to stop this criminal behavior.
Dont feel bad, I still have 300 left AND 400 of the Cavity contact nades they had. The cavity were double power and range. Now they BOTH have the SAME values. Whats really fked up, is the contact nades cost double of what the fused were. So CCP you lost a paying customer for LIFE. Was gonna open an eve account to, fk em now. I'll be sinking all my free money into ps4 games. DESTINY ooooooo ahhhhhhh hover bikes and fighter jets. You can actually fly into space.
A shitstorm is coming.......
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Altina McAlterson
Pure Innocence. EoN.
692
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Posted - 2013.10.31 19:18:00 -
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:bethany valvetino wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Unless this is about the BPOs, which are much more expensive than your cheap ass grenades, this thread is pointless. it's pointless anyway... great advice by the way, some one got butt hurt cos they bought a mind bogglingly stupid amount of nades, cos they were OP.. wasn't blessed with the most basic understanding of the game, so then has a massive fit when his toys get nerfed... So, rather than petitioning CCP and asking if they would refund his spend or looking over his set ups to make them work.... he jumps on here and insists we all stop playing for the game... Great work mate.... Your complete lack of commercial understand is shocking. Let me try and dumb this down for you. No Buyee Aurum... no getty game... I put in 2 help tickets you ******* noob get good, ive said this isnt about my grenades, its about a company policy that atm says it can change anything we buy with aur, including bpo and boosters, now your lack of commercial understanding means you do not see the flaw in this business model, and once again your supporting bad game killing policy of ccp and instead of being constructive your trolling the op because you obviously dont understand the implications or consequences of that attitude. Do you think ccp stands to lose or make money from people not buying in bulk because things might get changeg with no refund? Do you think this adversely affects the game with less money? Ya dont be a douche, and dont call me mate either, thats just one syllable away from you, wanting to suck me off... Actually pretty much every company makes it explicit that any digital good (especially in video games where things are constantly patched) you buy is subject to change at any time and that's the way it is. So honestly why do you think you're so special? It happens to everyone.
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