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True Adamance wrote:

Aero Yassavi wrote:

True Adamance wrote:

Aero Yassavi wrote:

This was the first thing I noticed when I started playing Dust and quite liked that part of it, even if it's not that big.

Heck, even for EVE they explain why you can see your ship in third person, because you are actually viewing it from the perspective of a small camera drone that follows your ship. They also explain why you can hear sounds in space; it's all artificially generated to help the pilot's awareness.

CCP does a great job with making their games make sense.

I don't because you cannot write in the idea of sacrifice into a clone soldier bio nor impress the sacrifice and dedication of other clone soldiers knowing they cannot truly die, which is why I like to think our implants can sporadically give our and that death even as an supposedly immortal merc can indeed be final.

The way the implement works, it can transfer your conscious to another body, even at the moment of death. The key word here is "even." So if you died before you got the implant, then it is too late, you are dead. If you died with the implant, but there is no clone to transfer your conscious to, then you are dead.

The term "immortal" is a misnomer in that sense. In lore, our characters can die.

Then assuming some one shot you at the right angle in the back of the head, they could destroy the implant and then kill you before it had a chance to transport the consciousness to a new clone? Or are you talking about faults in the transport itself. I mean this is a relatively new technology. How much of the consciousness if being lost ever time you die?

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Soulja Ghostface MCDUSTDONALDS The Scourge. 1691	Posted - 2013.10.31 01:46:00 - [1] - Quote When you die you get another clone. you are an immortal cloned soldier. COD,BF4,All other shooters.=you die you magically get to respawn. Long Live Dust Forum Warrior level 1/CEO/When will CCP give me heavy aircraft/www.mcdustdonaldsdust514.webs.com
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3443	Posted - 2013.10.31 01:49:00 - [2] - Quote This was the first thing I noticed when I started playing Dust and quite liked that part of it, even if it's not that big. Heck, even for EVE they explain why you can see your ship in third person, because you are actually viewing it from the perspective of a small camera drone that follows your ship. They also explain why you can hear sounds in space; it's all artificially generated to help the pilot's awareness. CCP does a great job with making their games make sense. Amarr faithful, join PIE Inc, the oldest EVE/Dust Amarr loyal corporation! Amarr Victor!
Vulpes Dolosus Neanderthal Nation Public Disorder. 159	Posted - 2013.10.31 01:52:00 - [3] - Quote Not to mention that you have to buy and manage your own resources (aside from the starter kits). Dropship Specialist: AKA Clinically Insane
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3443	Posted - 2013.10.31 01:53:00 - [4] - Quote Vulpes Dolosus wrote: Not to mention that you have to buy and manage your own resources (aside from the starter kits). Well, that part isn't entirely flawless. For example, you can deploy your equipment and somebody can destroy it, but as long as you don't die you haven't actually lost that asset. Amarr faithful, join PIE Inc, the oldest EVE/Dust Amarr loyal corporation! Amarr Victor!
Cosgar ParagonX 6894	Posted - 2013.10.31 01:54:00 - [5] - Quote CCP, using lore to explain unrealistic game mechanics since 2003. I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
Harpyja Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 647	Posted - 2013.10.31 01:54:00 - [6] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: This was the first thing I noticed when I started playing Dust and quite liked that part of it, even if it's not that big. Heck, even for EVE they explain why you can see your ship in third person, because you are actually viewing it from the perspective of a small camera drone that follows your ship. They also explain why you can here sounds in space; it's all artificially generated to help the pilot's awareness. CCP does a great job with making their games make sense. I've always been a fan of the lore, no matter how small or irrelevant it was to the actual gameplay. Everything in the game has some sci-fi explanation, like the two examples you mentioned regarding seeing your ship in third person and hearing in space. Hell, you can even see all of the effects such as cap neutralizers, remote reps, etc to enhance the pilots ability, though they may not be visible to the human eye. "By His light, and His will" - The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2183	Posted - 2013.10.31 01:55:00 - [7] - Quote Soulja Ghostface wrote: When you die you get another clone. you are an immortal cloned soldier. COD,BF4,All other shooters.=you die you magically get to respawn. Long Live Dust NOt really. You represent a DIFFERENT Soldier sent to fight. There by 100 enemy count, tahts 100 soldiers, Different ones even if some have the same skills. Both make sense... u+Élop s-¦ -Äll+Én-ç+ö+É
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3443	Posted - 2013.10.31 01:55:00 - [8] - Quote Somewhat off topic, CCP Frame liked my comment. I am now the ultimate forum warrior! Amarr faithful, join PIE Inc, the oldest EVE/Dust Amarr loyal corporation! Amarr Victor!
Avallo Kantor Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire 209	Posted - 2013.10.31 01:57:00 - [9] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Vulpes Dolosus wrote: Not to mention that you have to buy and manage your own resources (aside from the starter kits). Well, that part isn't entirely flawless. For example, you can deploy your equipment and somebody can destroy it, but as long as you don't die you haven't actually lost that asset. Don't quote me on this, but I believe your suit when you equip such things has a "dispenser" type item that is basically a micro-nanite factory (as in it makes the item on the spot instead of having to lug the finished product) in very little time (nearly instant for items of this scale) but only has enough supplies (and the 'template') for so many of that specific item. That's how you can get more at nano-hives, because it replenishes the nanites for those micro-fabricators.
Harpyja Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 648	Posted - 2013.10.31 01:59:00 - [10] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Somewhat off topic, CCP Frame liked my comment. I am now the ultimate forum warrior! No. I had CCP SocksFour like a comment of mine once! "By His light, and His will" - The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32

Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3446	Posted - 2013.10.31 02:05:00 - [11] - Quote So I thought of something else. In other games like COD of BF, dead bodies disappear because there's not enough memory to store that sort of information. In Dust, you body also disappears, but they explain it as nanites decomposing your body. They even added an animation for this, I'm sure you are all familiar with the sight of nanites decomposing downed enemies. Avallo Kantor wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Vulpes Dolosus wrote: Not to mention that you have to buy and manage your own resources (aside from the starter kits). Well, that part isn't entirely flawless. For example, you can deploy your equipment and somebody can destroy it, but as long as you don't die you haven't actually lost that asset. Don't quote me on this, but I believe your suit when you equip such things has a "dispenser" type item that is basically a micro-nanite factory (as in it makes the item on the spot instead of having to lug the finished product) in very little time (nearly instant for items of this scale) but only has enough supplies (and the 'template') for so many of that specific item. That's how you can get more at nano-hives, because it replenishes the nanites for those micro-fabricators. That would make sense. Amarr faithful, join PIE Inc, the oldest EVE/Dust Amarr loyal corporation! Amarr Victor!
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3446	Posted - 2013.10.31 02:06:00 - [12] - Quote Harpyja wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Somewhat off topic, CCP Frame liked my comment. I am now the ultimate forum warrior! No. I had CCP SocksFour like a comment of mine once! Ok, but that is CCP SocksFour, this is CCP Frame. Not even in the same ballpark buddy Amarr faithful, join PIE Inc, the oldest EVE/Dust Amarr loyal corporation! Amarr Victor!
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3821	Posted - 2013.10.31 02:08:00 - [13] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: This was the first thing I noticed when I started playing Dust and quite liked that part of it, even if it's not that big. Heck, even for EVE they explain why you can see your ship in third person, because you are actually viewing it from the perspective of a small camera drone that follows your ship. They also explain why you can hear sounds in space; it's all artificially generated to help the pilot's awareness. CCP does a great job with making their games make sense. I don't because you cannot write in the idea of sacrifice into a clone soldier bio nor impress the sacrifice and dedication of other clone soldiers knowing they cannot truly die, which is why I like to think our implants can sporadically give our and that death even as an supposedly immortal merc can indeed be final. "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
Patrick57 GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 1126	Posted - 2013.10.31 02:08:00 - [14] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Harpyja wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Somewhat off topic, CCP Frame liked my comment. I am now the ultimate forum warrior! No. I had CCP SocksFour like a comment of mine once! Ok, but that is CCP SocksFour, this is CCP Frame. Not even in the same ballpark buddy One of the Devs liked my post in the Military Players thread \o/ :D
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3822	Posted - 2013.10.31 02:09:00 - [15] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Soulja Ghostface wrote: When you die you get another clone. you are an immortal cloned soldier. COD,BF4,All other shooters.=you die you magically get to respawn. Long Live Dust NOt really. You represent a DIFFERENT Soldier sent to fight. There by 100 enemy count, tahts 100 soldiers, Different ones even if some have the same skills. Both make sense... And they all look the same.... wow so many quintuplets.... "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
Harpyja Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 649	Posted - 2013.10.31 02:11:00 - [16] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Harpyja wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Somewhat off topic, CCP Frame liked my comment. I am now the ultimate forum warrior! No. I had CCP SocksFour like a comment of mine once! Ok, but that is CCP SocksFour, this is CCP Frame. Not even in the same ballpark buddy Which Dev has more likes? I think the same goes for you: "not even in the same ballpark buddy ." Except by a magnitude of two. Hehe, just having fun here! I know, we went off topic here... sorry! "By His light, and His will" - The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 1341	Posted - 2013.10.31 02:11:00 - [17] - Quote Not going to lie, the thing that got me into dust first was the whole idea of being "immortal" and how it all works.....then it was the lore.....then it's exploring all the different strengths and weaknesses of the other races' gear _(* *)> <( . )> <----he's a penguin ~'''~'''~ Level 1 forum warrior :P
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 471	Posted - 2013.10.31 02:11:00 - [18] - Quote Harpyja wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Somewhat off topic, CCP Frame liked my comment. I am now the ultimate forum warrior! No. I had CCP SocksFour like a comment of mine once! CCP LogiBro like one of mine too! FORUM WARRIORS, UNITE! I am everything AV, Tanker, Logi, Scout, Heavy, and so much more This is the setup of those who are unbiased
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3448	Posted - 2013.10.31 02:14:00 - [19] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: This was the first thing I noticed when I started playing Dust and quite liked that part of it, even if it's not that big. Heck, even for EVE they explain why you can see your ship in third person, because you are actually viewing it from the perspective of a small camera drone that follows your ship. They also explain why you can hear sounds in space; it's all artificially generated to help the pilot's awareness. CCP does a great job with making their games make sense. I don't because you cannot write in the idea of sacrifice into a clone soldier bio nor impress the sacrifice and dedication of other clone soldiers knowing they cannot truly die, which is why I like to think our implants can sporadically give our and that death even as an supposedly immortal merc can indeed be final. The way the implement works, it can transfer your conscious to another body, even at the moment of death. The key word here is "even." So if you died before you got the implant, then it is too late, you are dead. If you died with the implant, but there is no clone to transfer your conscious to, then you are dead. The term "immortal" is a misnomer in that sense. In lore, our characters can die. Amarr faithful, join PIE Inc, the oldest EVE/Dust Amarr loyal corporation! Amarr Victor!
Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 1341	Posted - 2013.10.31 02:14:00 - [20] - Quote Atiim wrote: Harpyja wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Somewhat off topic, CCP Frame liked my comment. I am now the ultimate forum warrior! No. I had CCP SocksFour like a comment of mine once! CCP LogiBro like one of mine too! FORUM WARRIORS, UNITE! O ya, well ccp....never mind I'm just kidding _(* *)> <( . )> <----he's a penguin ~'''~'''~ Level 1 forum warrior :P

Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3449	Posted - 2013.10.31 02:17:00 - [21] - Quote True Adamance wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Soulja Ghostface wrote: When you die you get another clone. you are an immortal cloned soldier. COD,BF4,All other shooters.=you die you magically get to respawn. Long Live Dust NOt really. You represent a DIFFERENT Soldier sent to fight. There by 100 enemy count, tahts 100 soldiers, Different ones even if some have the same skills. Both make sense... And they all look the same.... wow so many quintuplets.... Besides the fact that the US army is comprised of clones in those games, explain this one: How does spawning work? If Dust, you are spawned through a small portal or at a clone reanimation unit. In other games, you just magically appear. Amarr faithful, join PIE Inc, the oldest EVE/Dust Amarr loyal corporation! Amarr Victor!
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3824	Posted - 2013.10.31 02:18:00 - [22] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: True Adamance wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Soulja Ghostface wrote: When you die you get another clone. you are an immortal cloned soldier. COD,BF4,All other shooters.=you die you magically get to respawn. Long Live Dust NOt really. You represent a DIFFERENT Soldier sent to fight. There by 100 enemy count, tahts 100 soldiers, Different ones even if some have the same skills. Both make sense... And they all look the same.... wow so many quintuplets.... Besides the fact that the US army is comprised of clones in those games, explain this one: How does spawning work? If Dust, you are spawned through a small portal or at a clone reanimation unit. In other games, you just magically appear. Squad spawns are certainly unique in Battlefield. "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
Samuel Zelik D.A.R.K Academy D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 83	Posted - 2013.10.31 02:23:00 - [23] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: This was the first thing I noticed when I started playing Dust and quite liked that part of it, even if it's not that big. Heck, even for EVE they explain why you can see your ship in third person, because you are actually viewing it from the perspective of a small camera drone that follows your ship. They also explain why you can hear sounds in space; it's all artificially generated to help the pilot's awareness. CCP does a great job with making their games make sense. Once we get drones in Dust, I want that third person camera. In other news, I don't think any game has properly justified why every time there is jeep-like vehicle, the gunner's turret has absolutely no protection... seriously, what possible reason? Is it really that hard to slap at least an armor plate or something on the front of the turret?
fawkuima juggalo Eternal Beings 98	Posted - 2013.10.31 02:25:00 - [24] - Quote Soulja Ghostface wrote: When you die you get another clone. you are an immortal cloned soldier. COD,BF4,All other shooters.=you die you magically get to respawn. Long Live Dust yayyy.... we still got some die hards FIGHT FOR A CAUSE, EVEN IF IT'S NEXT TO YOU.
Flix Keptick Red Star. EoN. 1067	Posted - 2013.10.31 02:39:00 - [25] - Quote Cosgar wrote: CCP, using lore to explain unrealistic game mechanics since 2003. What have they said about fluid dynamics in space? Please don't GÿåForum warrior lvl.1Gÿå
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 9799	Posted - 2013.10.31 03:25:00 - [26] - Quote Flix Keptick wrote: Cosgar wrote: CCP, using lore to explain unrealistic game mechanics since 2003. What have they said about fluid dynamics in space? Gravimetric Cores, the ships pull themselves through space and are susceptible to gravity wells but pinching the gravitational distortion just right allows for, acceleration gates in dead pockets that there isn't enough gravity to pool up, breaking out of the current universe to enter a warp tunnel and achieve FTL speeds and tearing apart the universe for cyno jumps. All without the need of inertia dampeners. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier Specialist Current Theme \\= Minmatar Assault and Logistics =// Unlocked.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3827	Posted - 2013.10.31 03:55:00 - [27] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: True Adamance wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: This was the first thing I noticed when I started playing Dust and quite liked that part of it, even if it's not that big. Heck, even for EVE they explain why you can see your ship in third person, because you are actually viewing it from the perspective of a small camera drone that follows your ship. They also explain why you can hear sounds in space; it's all artificially generated to help the pilot's awareness. CCP does a great job with making their games make sense. I don't because you cannot write in the idea of sacrifice into a clone soldier bio nor impress the sacrifice and dedication of other clone soldiers knowing they cannot truly die, which is why I like to think our implants can sporadically give our and that death even as an supposedly immortal merc can indeed be final. The way the implement works, it can transfer your conscious to another body, even at the moment of death. The key word here is "even." So if you died before you got the implant, then it is too late, you are dead. If you died with the implant, but there is no clone to transfer your conscious to, then you are dead. The term "immortal" is a misnomer in that sense. In lore, our characters can die. Then assuming some one shot you at the right angle in the back of the head, they could destroy the implant and then kill you before it had a chance to transport the consciousness to a new clone? Or are you talking about faults in the transport itself. I mean this is a relatively new technology. How much of the consciousness if being lost ever time you die? "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
General John Ripper MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN. 11461	Posted - 2013.10.31 04:06:00 - [28] - Quote Soulja Ghostface wrote: When you die you get another clone. you are an immortal cloned soldier. COD,BF4,All other shooters.=you die you magically get to respawn. Long Live Dust Respawn? what is this? I have never died. Dust 514's #1 Forum Warrior Founder of the Forum Warrior Club King of Tacos
Jackof All-Trades The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 209	Posted - 2013.10.31 04:15:00 - [29] - Quote which is why I don't like the spawn mechanic currently. We appear out of thin air for Christ's sake
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3462	Posted - 2013.10.31 06:56:00 - [30] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: True Adamance wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: This was the first thing I noticed when I started playing Dust and quite liked that part of it, even if it's not that big. Heck, even for EVE they explain why you can see your ship in third person, because you are actually viewing it from the perspective of a small camera drone that follows your ship. They also explain why you can hear sounds in space; it's all artificially generated to help the pilot's awareness. CCP does a great job with making their games make sense. I don't because you cannot write in the idea of sacrifice into a clone soldier bio nor impress the sacrifice and dedication of other clone soldiers knowing they cannot truly die, which is why I like to think our implants can sporadically give our and that death even as an supposedly immortal merc can indeed be final. The way the implement works, it can transfer your conscious to another body, even at the moment of death. The key word here is "even." So if you died before you got the implant, then it is too late, you are dead. If you died with the implant, but there is no clone to transfer your conscious to, then you are dead. The term "immortal" is a misnomer in that sense. In lore, our characters can die. Then assuming some one shot you at the right angle in the back of the head, they could destroy the implant and then kill you before it had a chance to transport the consciousness to a new clone? Or are you talking about faults in the transport itself. I mean this is a relatively new technology. How much of the consciousness if being lost ever time you die? No, I'm just talking about if there's no new clone to transport your conscious to, that simple. Amarr faithful, join PIE Inc, the oldest EVE/Dust Amarr loyal corporation! Amarr Victor!

Thurak1 Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 357	Posted - 2013.10.31 07:47:00 - [31] - Quote I imagine a sniper would be able to make a clone perma dead with a well placed high velocity round that would be able to destroy the implant and drive the rest of the broken implant into his skull.
Shion Typhon Intara Direct Action Caldari State 312	Posted - 2013.10.31 08:47:00 - [32] - Quote Soulja Ghostface wrote: When you die you get another clone. you are an immortal cloned soldier. COD,BF4,All other shooters.=you die you magically get to respawn. Long Live Dust Unreal Tournament: Star Trek-esque teleporter based technology keeps a pattern of any combatant in an arena and instantly reassembles them on death Planetside 1 & 2: All military equipment from tanks to guns to soldiers are built via hyper advanced nanite swarms, you even spawn out of nanite tubes in the game Borderlands 1 & 2: The Hyperion quick-travel network stores an image of you where your deaths help pay for the armed forces of the enemy! etc etc


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