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Sarcastic Dreamkiller
Northwind Alliance Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2013.10.31 00:09:00 -
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thoughts? |
Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.10.31 00:12:00 -
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Plasma Cannon.
[+ªa¦Ç+¦++-ö-Å94]
Burner of faces.
The Plasma Cannon is not underpowered.
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Vyzion Eyri
The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine
1641
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Posted - 2013.10.31 00:14:00 -
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Would it matter?
> "I will show you fear in a handful of dust."
T.S. Eliot, The Wasteland
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Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
1342
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Posted - 2013.10.31 00:14:00 -
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Oh, I thought it said autocannons. As for the antimatter,
Fizzer94 wrote:Plasma Cannon.
this.
'lights cigar' fuck with me, and I'll melt your face off. Gallente forever!
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Sarcastic Dreamkiller
Northwind Alliance Dark Taboo
52
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Posted - 2013.10.31 00:14:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:Plasma Cannon. but Antimatter is more destructive and devastating. |
Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
2447
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Posted - 2013.10.31 00:16:00 -
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Gallente Heavy Anitmatter cannon?
Also why can't we have Gallente Tanks with Large Plasma Cannons.
Would that not be the most awesome thing?
I may have deleted DUST but I still care deeply about this game.
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Sarcastic Dreamkiller
Northwind Alliance Dark Taboo
52
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Posted - 2013.10.31 00:17:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Gallente Heavy Anitmatter cannon? It would have to be a heavy weapon yes |
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
The Kaos Legion
311
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Posted - 2013.10.31 00:34:00 -
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Anti matter cannon?
Forge Gun?
How exactly does a Biscuit gain Valor?
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Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder.
692
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Posted - 2013.10.31 00:35:00 -
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Sarcastic Dreamkiller wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:Plasma Cannon. but Antimatter is more destructive and devastating. Antimatter would explode with enough force to send our Moon into multiple times the speed of light the moment the magnetic suspension turns off. No.
[+ªa¦Ç+¦++-ö-Å94]
Burner of faces.
The Plasma Cannon is not underpowered.
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21yrOld Knight
Pradox XVI
238
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Posted - 2013.10.31 00:35:00 -
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* cough * * COUGH * Forge * cough * gun
What kind of perfume does a heavy wear?
Logi Lavender Love
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance
4470
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Posted - 2013.10.31 00:38:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:Sarcastic Dreamkiller wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:Plasma Cannon. but Antimatter is more destructive and devastating. Antimatter would explode with enough force to send our Moon into multiple times the speed of light the moment the magnetic suspension turns off. No. /activate physics nerd
No. It would require an infinite amount of energy to get mass up to the speed of light. Exceeding it is not really feasible.
Level 4 Forum Warrior
Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
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Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder.
692
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Posted - 2013.10.31 00:42:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:Sarcastic Dreamkiller wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:Plasma Cannon. but Antimatter is more destructive and devastating. Antimatter would explode with enough force to send our Moon into multiple times the speed of light the moment the magnetic suspension turns off. No. /activate physics nerd No. It would require an infinite amount of energy to get mass up to the speed of light. Exceeding it is not really feasible. Dramatic response I know. But still, even a tiny amount of the stuff would turn the battlefield into a crater. It would probably be the stupidest thing to shoot at somebody whilst in an atmosphere. I'm surprised Concord even allows it to exist in a weaponized state.
[+ªa¦Ç+¦++-ö-Å94]
Burner of faces.
The Plasma Cannon is not underpowered.
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
6832
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Posted - 2013.10.31 00:42:00 -
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A nuclear weapon converts only a tiny fraction of the matter into energy, while anti-matter converts 100% of matter to energy. I think people seriously underestimate how destructive it is. You can destroy a city with less than a gram. The only way an antimatter weapon could be balanced is if its used in extremely minuscule microscopic amounts.
Anti-matter is NOT to be kittened with.
Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of the threads Gû¦Gû+
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
299
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Posted - 2013.10.31 00:45:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:Sarcastic Dreamkiller wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:Plasma Cannon. but Antimatter is more destructive and devastating. Antimatter would explode with enough force to send our Moon into multiple times the speed of light the moment the magnetic suspension turns off. No. /activate physics nerd No. It would require an infinite amount of energy to get mass up to the speed of light. Exceeding it is not really feasible. Ah! But there's a loophole to that in theory! If the explosion were to create a locally distorted space hat was in itself traveling against another space the object inside said space could exceed the speed of light relative to the external space but not so relative to the INternal space.
If you can read this, it means you are reading.
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Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder.
692
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Posted - 2013.10.31 00:50:00 -
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:Sarcastic Dreamkiller wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:Plasma Cannon. but Antimatter is more destructive and devastating. Antimatter would explode with enough force to send our Moon into multiple times the speed of light the moment the magnetic suspension turns off. No. /activate physics nerd No. It would require an infinite amount of energy to get mass up to the speed of light. Exceeding it is not really feasible. Ah! But there's a loophole to that in theory! If the explosion were to create a locally distorted space that was in itself traveling against another space the object inside said space could exceed the speed of light relative to the external space but not so relative to the INternal space. So, an Antimatter gun that sends the projectile to the target faster than light would get there via a wormhole? I don't think even the Jove were that advanced.
[+ªa¦Ç+¦++-ö-Å94]
Burner of faces.
The Plasma Cannon is not underpowered.
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
6834
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Posted - 2013.10.31 01:01:00 -
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:Sarcastic Dreamkiller wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:Plasma Cannon. but Antimatter is more destructive and devastating. Antimatter would explode with enough force to send our Moon into multiple times the speed of light the moment the magnetic suspension turns off. No. /activate physics nerd No. It would require an infinite amount of energy to get mass up to the speed of light. Exceeding it is not really feasible. Ah! But there's a loophole to that in theory! If the explosion were to create a locally distorted space that was in itself traveling against another space the object inside said space could exceed the speed of light relative to the external space but not so relative to the INternal space. Simply having a big explosion with lots of energy doesn't propel other objects though space-time shortcuts, or else supernovas, or supermassive black hole gamma ray bursts would do it also.
Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of the threads Gû¦Gû+
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Oswald Rehnquist
Abandoned Privilege General Tso's Alliance
373
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Posted - 2013.10.31 01:05:00 -
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Adapted from Deep Core Mining Inc.'s proprietary technology, the DCMA S-1 subverts conventional expectations of what a man-portable anti-material weapons platform is capable of. Despite its excessive weight and extended recharge time, the GÇ£Forge GunGÇ¥ as it has become known, is regarded as the most devastating infantry weapon on the battlefield, and an invaluable tool for those capable of wielding it. Powered by a Gemini microcapacitor, the forge gun utilizes a stored electric charge to fire kinetic slugs at speeds in excess of 7,000 m/s, enough to penetrate even augmented armor systems. During the pre-fire charge, the forward armature locks into position, stabilizing the magnetic field and helping to shield the user from backscatter and the excessive heat produced. Power generation remains the single largest drawback of the current design, the onboard capacitor requiring a significant amount of time to reach full power after each discharge.
The forge gun is a heavy weapon which primarally is used for anti-vehicle purposes. Although lacking in ROF, the sheer amount of damage per shot and the range of the weapon makes it a favorable choice for anti-vehicle units. Furthermore, its hybrid damage ensures its efficiency is even across all vehicles. A force to be reckoned with, the forge gun is a behemoth weapon made as a reply to vehicles of all sorts.
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
6834
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Posted - 2013.10.31 01:08:00 -
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Oswald Rehnquist wrote:Adapted from Deep Core Mining Inc.'s proprietary technology, the DCMA S-1 subverts conventional expectations of what a man-portable anti-material weapons platform is capable of. Despite its excessive weight and extended recharge time, the GÇ£Forge GunGÇ¥ as it has become known, is regarded as the most devastating infantry weapon on the battlefield, and an invaluable tool for those capable of wielding it. Powered by a Gemini microcapacitor, the forge gun utilizes a stored electric charge to fire kinetic slugs at speeds in excess of 7,000 m/s, enough to penetrate even augmented armor systems. During the pre-fire charge, the forward armature locks into position, stabilizing the magnetic field and helping to shield the user from backscatter and the excessive heat produced. Power generation remains the single largest drawback of the current design, the onboard capacitor requiring a significant amount of time to reach full power after each discharge.
The forge gun is a heavy weapon which primarally is used for anti-vehicle purposes. Although lacking in ROF, the sheer amount of damage per shot and the range of the weapon makes it a favorable choice for anti-vehicle units. Furthermore, its hybrid damage ensures its efficiency is even across all vehicles. A force to be reckoned with, the forge gun is a behemoth weapon made as a reply to vehicles of all sorts. This is what people mean by anti-matter. Not about anti-material.
Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of the threads Gû¦Gû+
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance
4478
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Posted - 2013.10.31 01:09:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: /activate physics nerd
No. It would require an infinite amount of energy to get mass up to the speed of light. Exceeding it is not really feasible.
Ah! But there's a loophole to that in theory! If the explosion were to create a locally distorted space that was in itself traveling against another space the object inside said space could exceed the speed of light relative to the external space but not so relative to the INternal space. Simply having a big explosion with lots of energy doesn't propel other objects though space-time shortcuts, or else supernovas, or supermassive black hole gamma ray bursts would do it also.
I approve of this physics nerd discussion. Take a like, both of you.
Level 4 Forum Warrior
Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
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Jadu Wen
Xer Cloud Consortium
32
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Posted - 2013.10.31 01:09:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:Sarcastic Dreamkiller wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:Plasma Cannon. but Antimatter is more destructive and devastating. Antimatter would explode with enough force to send our Moon into multiple times the speed of light the moment the magnetic suspension turns off. No. /activate physics nerd No. It would require an infinite amount of energy to get mass up to the speed of light. Exceeding it is not really feasible.
My rebuttal... ... ... Space magic solves all quandaries.
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Soulja Ghostface
MCDUSTDONALDS The Scourge.
1691
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Posted - 2013.10.31 01:11:00 -
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Soulja facepalms himself and tells the mongering immortals that forge guns are the antiMATTERial weapon right now
Forum Warrior level 1/CEO/When will CCP give me heavy aircraft/www.mcdustdonaldsdust514.webs.com
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Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
1342
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Posted - 2013.10.31 01:11:00 -
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:Anti matter cannon?
Forge Gun?
I don't think Forges shoot antimatter rounds.
'lights cigar' fuck with me, and I'll melt your face off. Gallente forever!
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Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
967
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Posted - 2013.10.31 01:13:00 -
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I've learned more here in the last minute then I have in last 2 months in my biology AP class. But if I may add my 2 cents anything with mass cannot reach the speed of light for it has mass.
"The trick to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources..." Albert Einstein
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Soulja Ghostface
MCDUSTDONALDS The Scourge.
1691
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Posted - 2013.10.31 01:13:00 -
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forge guns obliterate tanks derpships instalations LAv's and dropsuit need i say more?
Forum Warrior level 1/CEO/When will CCP give me heavy aircraft/www.mcdustdonaldsdust514.webs.com
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MySpaceTom
10
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Posted - 2013.10.31 01:15:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:So, an Antimatter gun that sends the projectile to the target faster than light would get there via a wormhole? I don't think even the Jove were that advanced. Maybe the Sleepers thought with portals, or highly combustible lemons.
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Soulja Ghostface
MCDUSTDONALDS The Scourge.
1691
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Posted - 2013.10.31 01:15:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:I've learned more here in the last minute then I have in last 2 months in my biology AP class. But if I may add my 2 cents anything with mass cannot reach the speed of light for it has mass. Ultra Violet Radiation (UVR) is a form of plasma (electrically charged gas) i'm pretty sure light radiation travels at the speed of light...troll physics
Forum Warrior level 1/CEO/When will CCP give me heavy aircraft/www.mcdustdonaldsdust514.webs.com
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
6834
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Posted - 2013.10.31 01:22:00 -
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Soulja Ghostface wrote:Soulja facepalms himself and tells the mongering immortals that forge guns are the antiMATTERial weapon right now Its anti-material, not "matterial".
Anti-matter is a different kind of matter that has opposite charge than regular matter; when it collides with regular matter, annihilation happens (100% of mass gets converted to energy, a nuclear weapon by contrast only converts a small fraction). Less than a gram of antimatter can destroy a city.
Anti-material is a term that refers to weapon designed to take out equipment (like vehicles). Completely different from the concept of anti-matter.
If you're going to facepalm, at least know what you're talking about.
Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of the threads Gû¦Gû+
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Soulja Ghostface
MCDUSTDONALDS The Scourge.
1691
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Posted - 2013.10.31 01:27:00 -
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English please. BTW. same concept what kageoshi is reffering to would break the game.
Forum Warrior level 1/CEO/When will CCP give me heavy aircraft/www.mcdustdonaldsdust514.webs.com
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
6835
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Posted - 2013.10.31 01:33:00 -
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Soulja Ghostface wrote:English please. BTW. same concept what kageoshi is reffering to would break the game. Like I already said to the OP. This would be even worse than nukes, IDK why he wants it.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:A nuclear weapon converts only a tiny fraction of the matter into energy, while anti-matter converts 100% of matter to energy. I think people seriously underestimate how destructive it is. You can destroy a city with less than a gram. The only way an antimatter weapon could be balanced is if its used in extremely minuscule microscopic amounts.
Anti-matter is NOT to be kittened with.
Not sure why anyone would want that being used.
Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of the threads Gû¦Gû+
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Dagger-Two
Villore Joint Task Force Villore Accords
124
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Posted - 2013.10.31 01:34:00 -
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Soulja Ghostface wrote: Ultra Violet Radiation (UVR) is a form of plasma (electrically charged gas) i'm pretty sure light radiation travels at the speed of light...troll physics
Dude...ultraviolet radiation is, well, light.
It's ultraviolet light.
UV rays
The ones sunblock protects against.
And yes. Antimatter is tremendously destructive. Also, while produced in relatively large quantities in New Eden, especially by the Gallente for their weapons, it is very difficult to weaponize, and even space-based weaponry that uses antimatter munitions uses very small amounts of the stuff. It is also far less destructive in space, where there is less matter for it to react with and where shock-waves are very limited in propagation, than it would be in atmosphere. Really, using antimatter in atmosphere is a terrible terrible idea for everyone involved. |
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Dagger-Two
Villore Joint Task Force Villore Accords
124
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Posted - 2013.10.31 01:39:00 -
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Also I believe the theoretical yield for antimatter is about 43 megatons per kg. |
Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
2459
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Posted - 2013.10.31 01:46:00 -
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MySpaceTom wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:So, an Antimatter gun that sends the projectile to the target faster than light would get there via a wormhole? I don't think even the Jove were that advanced. Maybe the Sleepers thought with portals, or highly combustible lemons. It may be possible that the sleepers were that advanced but it's definite that humans were capable of such things pre-Eve gate collapse.
I may have deleted DUST but I still care deeply about this game.
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Sarcastic Dreamkiller
Northwind Alliance Dark Taboo
52
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Posted - 2013.10.31 01:57:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Oswald Rehnquist wrote:Adapted from Deep Core Mining Inc.'s proprietary technology, the DCMA S-1 subverts conventional expectations of what a man-portable anti-material weapons platform is capable of. Despite its excessive weight and extended recharge time, the GÇ£Forge GunGÇ¥ as it has become known, is regarded as the most devastating infantry weapon on the battlefield, and an invaluable tool for those capable of wielding it. Powered by a Gemini microcapacitor, the forge gun utilizes a stored electric charge to fire kinetic slugs at speeds in excess of 7,000 m/s, enough to penetrate even augmented armor systems. During the pre-fire charge, the forward armature locks into position, stabilizing the magnetic field and helping to shield the user from backscatter and the excessive heat produced. Power generation remains the single largest drawback of the current design, the onboard capacitor requiring a significant amount of time to reach full power after each discharge.
The forge gun is a heavy weapon which primarally is used for anti-vehicle purposes. Although lacking in ROF, the sheer amount of damage per shot and the range of the weapon makes it a favorable choice for anti-vehicle units. Furthermore, its hybrid damage ensures its efficiency is even across all vehicles. A force to be reckoned with, the forge gun is a behemoth weapon made as a reply to vehicles of all sorts. This is what people mean by anti-matter. Not about anti-material. No, when I said "Antimatter Cannon" I was literally referring to a cannon that uses Antimatter. |
Xender17
MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN.
870
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Posted - 2013.10.31 01:59:00 -
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Predator Missiles.
I don't play COD.
I swear!
What the fox say?
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn
830
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Posted - 2013.10.31 03:00:00 -
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Sarcastic Dreamkiller wrote:thoughts?
That's Exactly how ccp translated "Forge Gun" in Italian.
Forge Gun = Cannone Antimateria
Cannone Antimateria = Antimatter Cannon
but, wait...
Antimatter Cannon != Forge Gun, isn't it?
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Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
2462
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Posted - 2013.10.31 03:13:00 -
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So many people don't even science.
I may have deleted DUST but I still care deeply about this game.
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Flix Keptick
Red Star. EoN.
1083
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Posted - 2013.10.31 03:20:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Gallente Heavy Anitmatter cannon?
Also why can't we have Gallente Tanks with Large Plasma Cannons.
Would that not be the most awesome thing? Gatling plasma cannon (200 rpm) ? HELL YEA
Please don't
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Flix Keptick
Red Star. EoN.
1083
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Posted - 2013.10.31 03:22:00 -
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Soulja Ghostface wrote:Soulja facepalms himself and tells the mongering immortals that forge guns are the antiMATTERial weapon right now lol, Besides, Antimatter rounds would explode while entering in contact with the atmosphere. It would only work in vacuum
Please don't
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Keri Starlight
Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1637
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Posted - 2013.10.31 03:23:00 -
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Forge Gun in my language is translated as "Antimatter Cannon". So... mmh... I guess it is.
-Caldari Achura - One with the Universe
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Sarcastic Dreamkiller
Northwind Alliance Dark Taboo
52
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Posted - 2013.10.31 03:43:00 -
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Forge guns have nothing to do with antimatter |
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Jackof All-Trades
The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine
209
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Posted - 2013.10.31 04:17:00 -
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Sarcastic Dreamkiller wrote:thoughts? Antimatter works in EVE, not DUST. It would react with the atmosphere, being very useless for blaster technology.
Perhaps railguns |
Poonmunch
Sanguis Defense Syndicate
514
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Posted - 2013.10.31 04:50:00 -
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We need sharks with friggin' lasers on their heads.
Munch
What if the hokey pokey really is what it's all about?
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Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder.
703
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Posted - 2013.10.31 04:53:00 -
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Poonmunch wrote:We need sharks with friggin' lasers on their heads.
Munch We don't have any water though. Where will they swim?
[+ªa¦Ç+¦++-ö-Å94]
Burner of faces.
The Plasma Cannon is not underpowered.
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