I like to see people giving out about the upcoming changes to AV. You've had it coming, and stop complaining about how it's going to look about in the future vs. Tanks. I see nobodys saying 'but we won't have any way to fend off stomping dropship pilots' , ... it's because dropship pilots rarely get a chance to make any impact. Why, you say? Because it only takes one swarm launcher, one forge gunner or one rail installation user to remove the threat of even the most skilled of pilots from the battlefield.
Stop your whining, you'll have together to take out vehicles, which is what it should be. Vehicle users spend more ISK and SP than you, in an open one vs one battle, they should always crush you. Only where you use your surroundings and fellow teammates to help, then you should overcome the vehicular opposition, unless they fail due to pilot error otherwise.

Im not crying, im learning how to drive tanks....

BTW this: '' Vehicle users spend more ISK and SP than you, in an open one vs one battle, they should always crush you. ''

Is the most stupid thing i've read. If this game ends up being: Better equipment > Skill
IM LEAVING.

I dont give a flying f*** if your tank costs 50 million isk, if im better i should be able to drop your butt. PERIOD.
@ the end of the day, as you said, is 1 on 1 , you are just wearing a mechanical, more expensive suit....
A 1 on 1 battle that cannot be won no matter what , makes a game broken.

How about this: LIGHT AV weapons should be good at taking out light vehicles, but ineffective at taking out heavy vehicles, while heavy AV kills all vehicles relatively quickly. Doesn't that make sense?

It doesn't take 20 mil SP to use AV well. Not even close.

Its impossible spending 20 mill into AV. Remember ; the only way to harm vehicles is with 4 weapons.
Which except plasma cannon i have all proto, and the suits with proto modules,proficiency ,etc... needed to fully run them.

I think Void Echo skipped debating 101 class !

A heavy is not far more efficient at killing than a tank. The current state of heavies is laughable.

Your second question does not make sense.

I have a rough idea of what you're talking about though - Are you saying that if you have superior equipment you should be completely unkillable by inferior equipment?
If so, then I disagree. Strenuously. This game already has enough problems with newbie stomping without it becoming literally impossible for newbies to compete.

Oh yes, more efficient isk wise. My BPO suits are infinitely efficient, whilst we're on that subject. Perhaps you should drop everything and run for them if that's so important?

A heavy suit is not as effective at killing as a tank is, nor is it as durable. Not efficient, effective.
Part of what balances spending large amounts of isk are diminishing returns per isk. Otherwise prototype suits would be even more powerful and actually sustainable - neither of which would be good for the game. Similarly, you pay for the power of HAVs. You can ***** and whine about how you don't think you're invincible enough, but you are investing isk for more power.

That's a ridiculously loaded example. Obviously not - not only is your gear outmatched, you are also outnumbered. Even if they're complete retards you're going to get wrecked.

The examples I was giving were where skill could tip the scales, not make everything else completely irrelevant. You have to be deliberately misinterpreting me now because I honestly believe someone can't be that stupid.

I'm done. I tried to be reasonable with you. It took 6 pages, but I've realised you can't be reasoned with. Congratulations.

recently i have been doing nothing but using militia suits , every now and then ill switch to my av suit to go after a tank that is going unchecked 8/10 times i get killed before i get any where near the tank 1/10 ill be able to do some damage but the tank runs away 1/10 the tank just sits there untill its on fire and then starts to run but its too late already. Now with me using my militia gear suits i do perfectly fine, not amazing but i can hold my own. personal investment does indeed help but i believe that skill gets you farther.