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Pocket Rocket Girl
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Posted - 2013.10.30 22:57:00 -
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Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:Justin Tymes wrote:Yet another "X SP should mean superiority" thread. Save your SP > skill rant for when 1.7 comes out.  Your roll eyes emote and your 1 line dismissive response lies on-top of a confusing point. Your say that SP should not add value, i.e superior abilities or gear. If this is not the function of SP as you say then what do you think skill points should do? What are they for in your version of DUST?
improving your chances of survival on the field. just because i use starter suit and come across the a xk0 with a duvolle yes theXk0 has a greater chance of winning but if the Xk0 player has no skill guess what? my chances have gone way up of wining the 1v1 |
Pocket Rocket Girl
Psygod9
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Posted - 2013.10.31 00:31:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:answer my question:
why should I put all of my personal investment and skill into tanks when a heavy who has put so little investment into his would be far more efficient? what would be the point of skilling into something if another thing could do its job better at a much lower investment requirement?
also, where would be the balance between "skill" and personal investment in this game when "skill would completely denounce logic when fighting far superior equipment?
Because it is a personal choice like the people who choose to spend Sp into scouts,as well that choice apeals to your personal play style. i could have chosen to spend into a caldari proto with stacking shields and armor and a duvolle at a lower investment but instead went for minmatar logi hack build instead because it appealed to my and what i felt i would be better at.
i do not understand your second question |
Pocket Rocket Girl
Psygod9
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Posted - 2013.10.31 05:44:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Void Echo wrote:answer my question:
why should I put all of my personal investment and skill into tanks when a heavy who has put so little investment into his would be far more efficient? what would be the point of skilling into something if another thing could do its job better at a much lower investment requirement?
also, where would be the balance between "skill" and personal investment in this game when "skill would completely denounce logic when fighting far superior equipment? A heavy is not far more efficient at killing than a tank. The current state of heavies is laughable. Your second question does not make sense. I have a rough idea of what you're talking about though - Are you saying that if you have superior equipment you should be completely unkillable by inferior equipment? If so, then I disagree. Strenuously. This game already has enough problems with newbie stomping without it becoming literally impossible for newbies to compete. look at my post on this page. also that was an example. and btw heavies are more efficient than tanks are money wise. if im going against a full team of proto suits in only a militia suit, should I be able to wipe the floor with them?
technally no but then again stick new players in said proto suits against people who have been playing for a long while in militia gear and guess what skill will over come equipment |
Pocket Rocket Girl
Psygod9
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Posted - 2013.10.31 05:58:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:Pocket Rocket Girl wrote:Void Echo wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Void Echo wrote:answer my question:
why should I put all of my personal investment and skill into tanks when a heavy who has put so little investment into his would be far more efficient? what would be the point of skilling into something if another thing could do its job better at a much lower investment requirement?
also, where would be the balance between "skill" and personal investment in this game when "skill would completely denounce logic when fighting far superior equipment? A heavy is not far more efficient at killing than a tank. The current state of heavies is laughable. Your second question does not make sense. I have a rough idea of what you're talking about though - Are you saying that if you have superior equipment you should be completely unkillable by inferior equipment? If so, then I disagree. Strenuously. This game already has enough problems with newbie stomping without it becoming literally impossible for newbies to compete. look at my post on this page. also that was an example. and btw heavies are more efficient than tanks are money wise. if im going against a full team of proto suits in only a militia suit, should I be able to wipe the floor with them? technally no but then again stick new players in said proto suits against people who have been playing for a long while in militia gear and guess what skill will over come equipment indeed... but my question is where do you put the balance between personal skill and personal investment.
recently i have been doing nothing but using militia suits , every now and then ill switch to my av suit to go after a tank that is going unchecked 8/10 times i get killed before i get any where near the tank 1/10 ill be able to do some damage but the tank runs away 1/10 the tank just sits there untill its on fire and then starts to run but its too late already. Now with me using my militia gear suits i do perfectly fine, not amazing but i can hold my own. personal investment does indeed help but i believe that skill gets you farther |
Pocket Rocket Girl
Psygod9
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Posted - 2013.10.31 06:17:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:Pocket Rocket Girl wrote:Void Echo wrote:Pocket Rocket Girl wrote:Void Echo wrote:
look at my post on this page. also that was an example. and btw heavies are more efficient than tanks are money wise.
if im going against a full team of proto suits in only a militia suit, should I be able to wipe the floor with them?
technally no but then again stick new players in said proto suits against people who have been playing for a long while in militia gear and guess what skill will over come equipment indeed... but my question is where do you put the balance between personal skill and personal investment. recently i have been doing nothing but using militia suits , every now and then ill switch to my av suit to go after a tank that is going unchecked 8/10 times i get killed before i get any where near the tank 1/10 ill be able to do some damage but the tank runs away 1/10 the tank just sits there untill its on fire and then starts to run but its too late already. Now with me using my militia gear suits i do perfectly fine, not amazing but i can hold my own. personal investment does indeed help but i believe that skill gets you farther technically wont skill be considered personal investment
then if that is your point shouldn't your question be : where would you separate skill from personal investment ?: and if so it depends on your definition on personal investment some people think that spending time getting ISK or the people that invest time AFK farming. but does that require any skill? |
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