Requiring them to be manned makes them largely useless and anyone manning them a target; any turret firing means someone is exposed.

Reducing the damage they do also makes them largely useless; they're extremely easy to destroy, which means they don't have very long to shoot at enemies.

Turrets currently have trouble tracking targets; only rarely will you get unlucky and sniped by them these days. Even a heavy suit can strafe back and forth fast enough to take out a blaster turret at 15m.

Turrets are fairly well balanced, though I question the wisdom of placing them so they can snipe points that are 550m away.

I'm not sure about all of these, but the railguns sniping you out of LAVs from across the map is bullshit.

Yeah I sounded like I meant I wanted all of them, when I think just a few should be implemented...

I feel for you if you're getting 1 shot sniped out of an LAV from across the map by a turret, but if it's a case of the turret preventing you from running your dropship willy nilly, no. If the turret is making your life tricky, destroy it. If you can't destroy it, get help from your squad. Turrets don't need to be nerfed because they prevent dropships from having free reign over the skies.

Yeah. There are some very silly things with turrets at the moment, but all of these would make them useless.
The removal of the AI would be significant, but honestly I don't see a problem with it compared to what they're doing atm.

it is especially annoying since missile turrets have infinite range -_-

You realise the reason the AI was upped on unmanned turrets was because people complained at there uselessness, they were nothing but a boon to a tankers WP.

They still don't have much of a tactical use!

They absolutely need a range nerf. Right now, missile turrets in the enemy redline can whack my dropship while I am under our mcc. I'm not exagerating, its that bad

They absolutely need a range nerf. Right now, missile turrets in the enemy redline can whack my dropship while I am under our mcc. I'm not exagerating, its that bad

ur kidding??? how is this

they wouldnt even target a land based vehicle at that range

4) reduce range - a rail or missile turret (unmanned) can shoot your dropship for the entire game leaving you useless, or worse, at a large area of the map, until the turrets are dead (A point on the new map with the giant pillar in the middle, is a perfect example of where this broken, 4 missile turrets barraging your DS at once... )

Useless indeed. If you don't have the wherewithal to destroy a turret, I would imagine a turret would render you useless. 3 shots, I think, from a Militia Swarm Launcher takes out a turret, maybe 4? If you are running in a squad, you could ask them to destroy it? Or hack it? Maybe a tank? Hell 5 or 6 ARs may take it out.

Or CCP could just nerf it.

Hmm I don't think you understand. If I ask a friendly to destroy a turret, they may succeed yes, but what if my teammates don't want to, what if I don't have a squad? And again let me bring up that you don't understand dropships because you are not a pilot! No one is your personal butler who will just switch to a swarm or FG fit and take it out! Now if you don't mind I will leave you too your turret in the back of the map 3 hit killing DSs and 2 hitting LAVs

Oh I understand completely. If your team is not effective enough to remove a single turret from the map, or if you are running solo.....in a dropship.......you don't want that turret to be a nuisance. You want to be able to fly around willy nilly.

wil-+ly-nil-+ly
/-îwil-ô -ênil-ô/
adverb
adverb: willy-nilly
1.
whether one likes it or not.
"he would be forced to collaborate willy-nilly"
synonyms: haphazardly, at random, randomly, every which way, here and there, all over the place, in no apparent order More
"cars were parked willy-nilly"
2.
without direction or planning; haphazardly.
"politicians expanded spending programs willy-nilly"
synonyms: haphazardly, at random, randomly, every which way, here and there, all over the place, in no apparent order More

Yes, willy nilly. Moving on, everyone that is green in Dust is your personal butler. If I have a tank or a dropship that needs help, I do what I can to help them. Sometimes I save 'em, sometimes not. But that's a question of tactics, not of balance. If you think that last bit was outlandish I suggest you find a new corp, or stop running solo.....in a dropship......and yeah, if you think i'm sitting on a turret in the back of a map, think again. I'm switching to swarms so I can "abruptly decrease your altitude".

Never said it did. Just clarifying things for you. Look if you want to nerf turrets because they keep you from doing whatever it is that a solo person does in a dropship, that's all fine and good. I've suggested methods that, while highly complex (apparently), are highly effective. If you can't deal with a turret I don't know what to tell you. But again to the OP I say no.

Well, it depends on the map. But I assume that they are being maned when that happens. Even so, it's unacceptable to get hit by a turret that is not even rendering. The missiles also don't seem to have a range limit. Try it for yourself, fire somewhere and look at how far the missiles go. Now do the same thing with large missiles mounted on a tank. Notice any difference?

I'm pretty sure that's the motto for the Republican Party. Word for word.

.____. I don't have to explain myself to you, for your logic is flawed....

What am I suppose to say to that? There is no talk to be had with you on the topic. You say what you want and you flip out on anyone who doesn't back you up. If you turn back to my first post, and look at your first post directed at me, you can plainly see who was "automatically on the offensive".

The people who are detrimental to the game are those who refuse to learn how to play it, and demand that whatever they don't like be nerfed. Your claiming I am personally attacking you, yet you have been a complete @ss to every single person in this thread that hasn't agreed with you. You can do 2 things here. Keep acting like a fool, or come to peace with the fact that everyone has an opinion. And my opinion, as I've already stated, is if you want to nerf turrets because they bother you when you are flying in your dropship, suck it up and learn how to destroy the weakest installation in the game.

Necessary changes to turrets...