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JL3Eleven 1188	Posted - 2013.10.30 05:16:00 - [1] - Quote Logi suit best suit. I'm drunk every time I play, what's your excuse? Forums > Game Oh I almost forgot... Can I haz ur stuff?
JL3Eleven 1189	Posted - 2013.10.30 08:24:00 - [2] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Seymor Krelborn wrote: I never said a suit could do all that... lol... im beginning to think you don't read posts, you just reply to them... And I've realized you don't know how balancing works. Logistics: -Low base stats -No Sidearm (Except for Amarr which is a hybrid) -More reliant on modules -SP intensive -Expensive -Defensive oriented -Support oriented bonuses Assault: -Better base stats -Fast -Sidearm for more DPS -Less reliant on modules -Less SP intensive -Cheaper -Offensive oriented -Weapon oriented bonuses Not sure how much more I can really spell it out. I guess I could do a spreadsheet comparison, but I doubt your reading comprehension is up to snuff if you're having this argument in the first place. A proto ck.0 assault logi suit is way better than a proto ck.0 assault suit. Not sure how much more I can really spell it out. I guess I could do a suit comparison, but I doubt your suit comprehension is up to snuff if you're having this argument in the first place. I'm drunk every time I play, what's your excuse? Forums > Game Oh I almost forgot... Can I haz ur stuff?
JL3Eleven 1189	Posted - 2013.10.30 08:42:00 - [3] - Quote Cosgar wrote: JL3Eleven wrote: A proto ck.0 assault logi suit is way better than a proto ck.0 assault suit. Not sure how much more I can really spell it out. I guess I could do a suit comparison, but I doubt your suit comprehension is up to snuff if you're having this argument in the first place. You forgot the part where you use some kind of example. But good thing I can easily find one in one of the many speed topics: DeathwindRising wrote: Seymor Krelborn wrote: but not by enough to make a real impact on the field... scout scanning doesn't win battles or accrue many WPs heavies may have more ehp now but they are still slow as turtles... and the only place turtles win races is in the storybooks... ill take my caldari tanked suit I fit with all complex extenders 1 enhanced dmg mod and all bpo militia plates for a total of 1029 ehp or fit a few enhanced plates and eek out about 1200 ehp over the heavies extra few hundred, plus I can fit triage hives and some remotes for an even larger advantage over the heavy... Im just not seeing a convincing argument to run anything but a logi unless youre a masochist... a proto caldari logi suit with 515 shields and 288 armor takes 33.75 seconds to recharge its shield from 0 to 515. because its recharge is only 20 hp/s an proto caldari assault suit with 392 shields and 150 armor takes 8.4 seconds to recharge its shields from 0 to 392. because its shield recharge is 84.48 hp/s it would take that logi 27.6 seconds to recharge 392 shields... so unless all your enemies are standing out in the open or simply letting you shoot them, that logi suit isnt what you want to be in for multiple fights. So you're whole argument is based on shield regin? lol. I'm drunk every time I play, what's your excuse? Forums > Game Oh I almost forgot... Can I haz ur stuff?
JL3Eleven 1189	Posted - 2013.10.30 08:54:00 - [4] - Quote Cosgar wrote: And yours is apparently based on being a deadpan snarker. No I just think you are being a jackass trying to save your suit from the nerf hammer. The logi suit can do assaulting better than the assault suit take the blinders off and realize this. Do you want suit setups? I can get 1000+ HP, duvolle, core nades, and damage mod. I'm drunk every time I play, what's your excuse? Forums > Game Oh I almost forgot... Can I haz ur stuff?
JL3Eleven 1189	Posted - 2013.10.30 09:02:00 - [5] - Quote Lea Silencio wrote: JL3Eleven wrote: Cosgar wrote: And yours is apparently based on being a deadpan snarker. No I just think you are being a jackass trying to save your suit from the nerf hammer. The logi suit can do assaulting better than the assault suit take the blinders off and realize this. Do you want suit setups? I can get 1000+ HP, duvolle, core nades, and damage mod. Off topic....JL....what happened to Anonymous? It's kind of funny seeing you without a corp, bro-ham. Don't know what you mean I'm drunk every time I play, what's your excuse? Forums > Game Oh I almost forgot... Can I haz ur stuff?
JL3Eleven 1189	Posted - 2013.10.30 09:13:00 - [6] - Quote Cosgar wrote: JL3Eleven wrote: Cosgar wrote: And yours is apparently based on being a deadpan snarker. No I just think you are being a jackass trying to save your suit from the nerf hammer. The logi suit can do assaulting better than the assault suit take the blinders off and realize this. Do you want suit setups? I can get 1000+ HP, duvolle, core nades, and damage mod. I've been playing Minmatar logistics since Chrome, I switched to it from assault because I got bored with assault. I probably don't need to dedicate all my time proving people wrong in these pathetic topics since logistics isn't under the nerf hammer. Think about it, when's the last time a Dev actually said anything about logis since the CaLogi nerf? Hell, it never was to begin with, just the CaLogi since it really could do it all with its ungodly CPU/PG, racial bonus, and blatant shield > armor imbalance back then. They actually did the right thing by focusing on the real issue instead of bringing down Mjolnir on the whole class, proving that mass QQ doesn't get results. Go ahead, post all the crazy EHP logi fits you can. But like I've said before, it's just a tankier, gimped, expensive assault suit without a sidearm. And even if you get an Amarr fit with more EHP than the assault, the assault is better because of its weapon oriented bonus. You don't know as much as you think you do. This is a suit I've been messing around with for lulz. 3x complex damage mods 2x complex shield extenders complex profile dampener complex armor plate complex armor repairer enhanced cpu upgrade a-86 active scanner hacked nanohive Duvolle maxed out M1 Locus nades 370 shield / 261 armor Damage modes can be swapped for shield extenders same with armor rep for plates for more HP. My assault suit cannot do anything close to this for the cost of a sidearm but my damage mods make that point moot. I'm drunk every time I play, what's your excuse? Forums > Game Oh I almost forgot... Can I haz ur stuff?
JL3Eleven A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 1189	Posted - 2013.10.30 09:37:00 - [7] - Quote Cosgar wrote: JL3Eleven wrote: Cosgar wrote: JL3Eleven wrote: Cosgar wrote: And yours is apparently based on being a deadpan snarker. No I just think you are being a jackass trying to save your suit from the nerf hammer. The logi suit can do assaulting better than the assault suit take the blinders off and realize this. Do you want suit setups? I can get 1000+ HP, duvolle, core nades, and damage mod. I've been playing Minmatar logistics since Chrome, I switched to it from assault because I got bored with assault. I probably don't need to dedicate all my time proving people wrong in these pathetic topics since logistics isn't under the nerf hammer. Think about it, when's the last time a Dev actually said anything about logis since the CaLogi nerf? Hell, it never was to begin with, just the CaLogi since it really could do it all with its ungodly CPU/PG, racial bonus, and blatant shield > armor imbalance back then. They actually did the right thing by focusing on the real issue instead of bringing down Mjolnir on the whole class, proving that mass QQ doesn't get results. Go ahead, post all the crazy EHP logi fits you can. But like I've said before, it's just a tankier, gimped, expensive assault suit without a sidearm. And even if you get an Amarr fit with more EHP than the assault, the assault is better because of its weapon oriented bonus. You don't know as much as you think you do. This is a suit I've been messing around with for lulz. 3x complex damage mods 2x complex shield extenders complex profile dampener complex armor plate complex armor repairer enhanced cpu upgrade a-86 active scanner hacked nanohive Duvolle maxed out M1 Locus nades 370 shield / 261 armor Damage modes can be swapped for shield extenders same with armor rep for plates for more HP. My assault suit cannot do anything close to this for the cost of a sidearm but my damage mods make that point moot. I'll keep it simple. Even with the crazy damage output you have with the Duvolle + CLDM, you're going to win a couple of 1v1 engagements, but you're dead if someone catches you reloading. May look good on a spread sheet but Dust =/= EVE and that second weapon, extra speed, better shield regen, and sidearm to fall back on (or even lead with) matters a lot more than assaults think. But let's call a spade a spade here- everyone knows ARs are so powerful, you don't even need a sidarm. That's the issue with balance, not the suit. You think that same setup would be as effective with a freedom MD or Imperial? Also, you proved my point with saying you can switch the damage mod for a shield extender. You have to give something up to fit something else. Even with all the buffer in the world, you won't have that damage mod and you'll still be barely faster than a heavy with virtually no stamina. Good for point defense, but not much else. Please stop. That setup has beast damage output, repairers, A SCANNER to show me everyone, plus a complex dampener which makes me mostly unseen with my prof. at V. Now drop me in a competent squad and I only need to worry about FGs. Screw running and a sidearm. Trust me man I'm 100% assaulter and now I use a logi suit wonder why? I'm drunk every time I play, what's your excuse? Forums > Game Oh I almost forgot... Can I haz ur stuff?
JL3Eleven A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 1189	Posted - 2013.10.30 09:39:00 - [8] - Quote Lea Silencio wrote: JL3Eleven wrote: Lea Silencio wrote: JL3Eleven wrote: Cosgar wrote: And yours is apparently based on being a deadpan snarker. No I just think you are being a jackass trying to save your suit from the nerf hammer. The logi suit can do assaulting better than the assault suit take the blinders off and realize this. Do you want suit setups? I can get 1000+ HP, duvolle, core nades, and damage mod. Off topic....JL....what happened to Anonymous? It's kind of funny seeing you without a corp, bro-ham. Don't know what you mean Sneaky b@stard. I seez it naow! I know why you didn't have it on earlier... U IZ A SPAI!!!! I'm Anonymous I'm drunk every time I play, what's your excuse? Forums > Game Oh I almost forgot... Can I haz ur stuff?
JL3Eleven A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 1189	Posted - 2013.10.30 09:47:00 - [9] - Quote Cosgar wrote: JL3Eleven wrote: Please stop. That setup has beast damage output, repairers, A SCANNER to show me everyone, plus a complex dampener which makes me mostly unseen with my prof. at V. Now drop me in a competent squad and I only need to worry about FGs. Screw running and a sidearm. Trust me man I'm 100% assaulter and now I use a logi suit wonder why? Because you found the assault bonuses underwhelming compared to the logi. I've been saying the assault bonuses suck, check my post history. Maybe I should be complaining about assaults being better slayers because the commando sucks. Now dense are you? Screw bonuses they were NEVER a factor in my decision. The assault logi can fit MORE and BETTER gear and the assault suit. Do you understand that? I'm drunk every time I play, what's your excuse? Forums > Game Oh I almost forgot... Can I haz ur stuff?
JL3Eleven A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 1189	Posted - 2013.10.30 09:54:00 - [10] - Quote Cosgar wrote: JL3Eleven wrote: Cosgar wrote: JL3Eleven wrote: Please stop. That setup has beast damage output, repairers, A SCANNER to show me everyone, plus a complex dampener which makes me mostly unseen with my prof. at V. Now drop me in a competent squad and I only need to worry about FGs. Screw running and a sidearm. Trust me man I'm 100% assaulter and now I use a logi suit wonder why? Because you found the assault bonuses underwhelming compared to the logi. I've been saying the assault bonuses suck, check my post history. Maybe I should be complaining about assaults being better slayers because the commando sucks. Now dense are you? Screw bonuses they were NEVER a factor in my decision. The assault logi can fit MORE and BETTER gear and the assault suit. Do you understand that? You think any new berry can do well with that exact fit? If something takes the least amount of skill to use then you can say its OP. You're drunk go home. I'm drunk every time I play, what's your excuse? Forums > Game Oh I almost forgot... Can I haz ur stuff?

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