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Paran Tadec
Ancient Exiles
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Posted - 2013.10.29 22:01:00 -
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If you are spotted, you arnt a good scout. Too bad. If you put youself in a situation where you cant run away, you arnt a good scout. Too bad.
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
7334
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Posted - 2013.10.29 22:05:00 -
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Wow, excellent feedback you provide.
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Aqua-Regia
484
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Posted - 2013.10.29 22:07:00 -
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okay so i'm a bad / scrub scout.
CCP I need my HP buff, why because BOOM I'm dead.
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
296
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Posted - 2013.10.29 22:09:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:If you are spotted, you arnt a good scout. Too bad. If you put youself in a situation where you cant run away, you arnt a good scout. Too bad. For your sake I hope you spot me then
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Django Quik
Dust2Dust.
1670
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Posted - 2013.10.29 22:11:00 -
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The only people i ever see suggesting giving scouts more HP are non-scouts who think they're throwing us a bone. HP is not something any scout wants or needs. We know we survive by avoiding being hit, so we tank with speed (lol) and stealth (los lol!).
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AfroSunshineY Consequence
TransLegio
140
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Posted - 2013.10.29 22:13:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:If you are spotted, you arnt a good scout. Too bad. If you put youself in a situation where you cant run away, you arnt a good scout. Too bad.
I agree with OP. Scout should never get close to targets. Any targets. That means no killing. If you're a scout and you're using a gun at all you're doing it wrong. If you're hacking objectives you're doing it wrong. If you're using the imaginary "stealth" that people love to bring up all the time, you're doing it wrong. If someone you're hunting tanks a shotgun blast to the face, turns around and downs you you're doing it wrong. If you're outrunning a medium suit you're doing it wrong. If you're not prostrating in front of your AR overlords you're doing it wrong.
SMH. Get out of here scrub. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
3751
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Posted - 2013.10.29 22:18:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:If you are spotted, you arnt a good scout. Too bad. If you put youself in a situation where you cant run away, you arnt a good scout. Too bad. Yup that's what Aero and I figured, and were running basic Gallente scouts in the red dots back field for the lols.
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Everything Dies
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
182
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Posted - 2013.10.29 22:23:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:If you are spotted, you arnt a good scout. Too bad. If you put youself in a situation where you cant run away, you arnt a good scout. Too bad.
Here's the sad part: I have two relatively cheap suits--a standard Assault Gallente medium frame and an advanced Gallente scout suit. 1 high/3 low on the assault, 2/2 on the scout. Both can carry two basic dampeners, with the assault gaining a basic reactive plate and the scout gaining an extra basic shield extender. Take away the Gallente scout bonus (the only thing that makes it all useful) and you have a slightly slower assault suit (we're talking .5 meters per second or thereabouts) that boasts an easy 100+EHP more than the scout, all at a cost of the 5 scan profile points. I'm trying really, really hard to have fun playing as a scout...but the current setup really doesn't have many advantages over a medium suit.
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Everything Dies
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
182
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Posted - 2013.10.29 22:25:00 -
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AfroSunshineY Consequence wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:If you are spotted, you arnt a good scout. Too bad. If you put youself in a situation where you cant run away, you arnt a good scout. Too bad. I agree with OP. Scout should never get close to targets. Any targets. That means no killing. If you're a scout and you're using a gun at all you're doing it wrong. If you're hacking objectives you're doing it wrong. If you're using the imaginary "stealth" that people love to bring up all the time, you're doing it wrong. If someone you're hunting tanks a shotgun blast to the face, turns around and downs you you're doing it wrong. If you're outrunning a medium suit you're doing it wrong. If you're not prostrating in front of your AR overlords you're doing it wrong. SMH. Get out of here scrub.
Basically, all snipers should be scouts and all scouts should be snipers.
Life is killing me.
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Prius Vecht
Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire
173
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Posted - 2013.10.29 22:27:00 -
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agree would rather see scan profile better fleshed out, scout specific weapons and slight strafe and movement increase. |
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
1312
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Posted - 2013.10.29 22:27:00 -
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I never see scout ehp buff threads.
It's mostly buff scan range, CPU or PG. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
3413
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Posted - 2013.10.29 22:29:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:If you are spotted, you arnt a good scout. Too bad. If you put youself in a situation where you cant run away, you arnt a good scout. Too bad. Yup that's what Aero and I figured, and were running basic Gallente scouts in the red dots back field for the lols. Agreed. I don't want a scout HP buff, I want a scout stealth buff. and scout escapist buff.
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IMMORTAL WAR HERO
BAD SANTA'S SCHOOL 4 SCOUNDRELS
68
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Posted - 2013.10.29 22:30:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:If you are spotted, you arnt a good scout. Too bad. If you put youself in a situation where you cant run away, you arnt a good scout. Too bad. yep scout only need 100 sheild 100 armor make them faster instead
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Heimdallr69
Imperfect Bastards
1118
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Posted - 2013.10.29 22:34:00 -
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People are dumb scouts can have a **** ton of armour and still be faster than assault |
Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
1333
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Posted - 2013.10.29 22:36:00 -
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA This guy's a complete idiot
'lights cigar' fuck with me, and I'll melt your face off. Gallente forever!
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Johnny Guilt
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
313
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Posted - 2013.10.29 22:38:00 -
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buffing what suits are good at makes more sense than what they are bad at. |
Django Quik
Dust2Dust.
1672
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Posted - 2013.10.29 22:43:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:People are dumb scouts can have a **** ton of armour and still be faster than assault You're still touting this BS. Go try out the dust fitting tool, set it to max skills and fill your lows with armour. You can get 756 armour. Great but your speed is less than an Amarr logi. If you drop 2 complex plates down to enhanced you get 701 armour and just about comparable speed with an unfitted assault, which can then stack shield and low penalty armour and destroy your "tanked scout" fit.
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Heimdallr69
Imperfect Bastards
1118
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Posted - 2013.10.29 22:50:00 -
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Django Quik wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:People are dumb scouts can have a **** ton of armour and still be faster than assault You're still touting this BS. Go try out the dust fitting tool, set it to max skills and fill your lows with armour. You can get 756 armour. Great but your speed is less than an Amarr logi. If you drop 2 complex plates down to enhanced you get 701 armour and just about comparable speed with an unfitted assault, which can then stack shield and low penalty armour and destroy your "tanked scout" fit. Make it in the 500 range ***** marauder out ran me all day and I'm cal assault...and he said there are some with more armour that are faster than him...now get off my nuts and actually play with good players |
OZAROW
WarRavens League of Infamy
996
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Posted - 2013.10.29 22:52:00 -
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You scared of scouts rising bro?
Why you would even make this thread is beyond me, but just so you kno; if you you have your skills are up you can get over 600 eHp on a advanced scout if you don't mind being slow.
Scouts want range scan, maybe speed so the re actually faster than a med frame speed assault, an maybe a slot since we lost two since chrome , an CPU pg to actually fit decent gear like any other suit in the game.
Personally you just acted like a scrub for even making such a stupid post. |
Spademan
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
360
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Posted - 2013.10.29 22:53:00 -
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What we need is more speed, more stealth and more detection abilities.
I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
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negative49er
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
282
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Posted - 2013.10.29 22:54:00 -
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AfroSunshineY Consequence wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:If you are spotted, you arnt a good scout. Too bad. If you put youself in a situation where you cant run away, you arnt a good scout. Too bad. I agree with OP. Scout should never get close to targets. Any targets. That means no killing. If you're a scout and you're using a gun at all you're doing it wrong. If you're hacking objectives you're doing it wrong. If you're using the imaginary "stealth" that people love to bring up all the time, you're doing it wrong. If someone you're hunting tanks a shotgun blast to the face, turns around and downs you you're doing it wrong. If you're outrunning a medium suit you're doing it wrong. If you're not prostrating in front of your AR overlords you're doing it wrong. SMH. Get out of here scrub.
Well then change the minmatar scout bonus then
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Heimdallr69
Imperfect Bastards
1118
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Posted - 2013.10.29 22:56:00 -
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Spademan wrote:What we need is more speed, more stealth and more detection abilities. Cloaking has been planned since closed beta soo I think its only scouts tbh...and a crusader suit watever happend with that? |
DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles
2306
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Posted - 2013.10.29 22:57:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Django Quik wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:People are dumb scouts can have a **** ton of armour and still be faster than assault You're still touting this BS. Go try out the dust fitting tool, set it to max skills and fill your lows with armour. You can get 756 armour. Great but your speed is less than an Amarr logi. If you drop 2 complex plates down to enhanced you get 701 armour and just about comparable speed with an unfitted assault, which can then stack shield and low penalty armour and destroy your "tanked scout" fit. Make it in the 500 range ***** marauder out ran me all day and I'm cal assault...and he said there are some with more armour that are faster than him...now get off my nuts and actually play with good players 3 enhanced plates + rep gives you like 7.3 sprint speed with 500+ armor. I was runnin this fit
Alternatively you COULD run 3 complex plates and get 600 armor then put a Complx red and run at about 7.8 7.9 but that would require you to have no rep at all. It's not a good fit unless you're in PC and have your teammates or yourself drop armor rep nanos.
But regardless is a tanked scout even a scout at that point? It's kinds sad that to be a good scout you have to tank it.
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Heimdallr69
Imperfect Bastards
1121
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Posted - 2013.10.29 23:09:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Django Quik wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:People are dumb scouts can have a **** ton of armour and still be faster than assault You're still touting this BS. Go try out the dust fitting tool, set it to max skills and fill your lows with armour. You can get 756 armour. Great but your speed is less than an Amarr logi. If you drop 2 complex plates down to enhanced you get 701 armour and just about comparable speed with an unfitted assault, which can then stack shield and low penalty armour and destroy your "tanked scout" fit. Make it in the 500 range ***** marauder out ran me all day and I'm cal assault...and he said there are some with more armour that are faster than him...now get off my nuts and actually play with good players 3 enhanced plates + rep gives you like 7.3 sprint speed with 500+ armor. I was runnin this fit Alternatively you COULD run 3 complex plates and get 600 armor then put a Complx red and run at about 7.8 7.9 but that would require you to have no rep at all. It's not a good fit unless you're in PC and have your teammates or yourself drop armor rep nanos. But regardless is a tanked scout even a scout at that point? It's kinda sad that to be a good scout you have to tank it. Ha I agree until cloaking |
Ghost Kaisar
R 0 N 1 N
695
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Posted - 2013.10.29 23:18:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:If you are spotted, you arnt a good scout. Too bad. If you put youself in a situation where you cant run away, you arnt a good scout. Too bad.
Because it's so easy to never be seen. EVER.
I just want enough HP to be able to SURVIVE AS I RUN AWAY.
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Palatinate
Unknown Scrubs 4 Hire
66
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Posted - 2013.10.29 23:20:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Wow, excellent feedback you provide. AR user? Geez. Why do associate everything about a person who posts something stupid as an AR User? You make it seem like AR users are the reason puppies die. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
6801
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Posted - 2013.10.30 00:13:00 -
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IMMORTAL WAR HERO wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:If you are spotted, you arnt a good scout. Too bad. If you put youself in a situation where you cant run away, you arnt a good scout. Too bad. yep scout only need 100 sheild 100 armor make them faster instead If that's the case, bring back their Uprising 1.0 faster than framerate speed. Speed = life and if you stop, you're pretty much dead. Dust 514's true hard mode.
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Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder.
675
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Posted - 2013.10.30 00:17:00 -
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Palatinate wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Wow, excellent feedback you provide. AR user? Geez. Why do associate everything about a person who posts something stupid as an AR User? You make it seem like AR users are the reason puppies die. It isn't?
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Gunmouse
0uter.Heaven Proficiency V.
111
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Posted - 2013.10.30 00:21:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:If you are spotted, you arnt a good scout. Too bad. If you put youself in a situation where you cant run away, you arnt a good scout. Too bad. What respectable scout has asked EVER for an HP buff, there are a dozen things we could use but not that.
I got my do-rag on with my 50 sittin' on it, now I'm ready to fuk the game up, nikka
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Everything Dies
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
183
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Posted - 2013.10.30 00:22:00 -
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Spademan wrote:What we need is more speed, more stealth and more detection abilities.
Sadly, I'd be happy to even get one of those...
Life is killing me.
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Gunmouse
0uter.Heaven Proficiency V.
112
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Posted - 2013.10.30 01:03:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:Palatinate wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Wow, excellent feedback you provide. AR user? Geez. Why do associate everything about a person who posts something stupid as an AR User? You make it seem like AR users are the reason puppies die. It isn't? I have proto Gallente scout, proto shotgun, proto Gal Assault, proto AR prof 5, so where does that place me?
I got my do-rag on with my 50 sittin' on it, now I'm ready to fuk the game up, nikka
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OZAROW
WarRavens League of Infamy
997
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Posted - 2013.10.30 01:21:00 -
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I'm a superstar GIRL IM READY FOR YOU mamma, why you think the only thing I got on is my pajamas , IM JUST SO BAD, IM JUST SO GOOD THAT IM SO BAD! |
Paran Tadec
Ancient Exiles
1515
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Posted - 2013.10.30 01:34:00 -
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Aqua-Regia wrote:okay so i'm a bad / scrub scout.
CCP I need my HP buff, why because BOOM I'm dead.
Grenades and forge gun one hit ko's everyone.
Bittervet Proficiency V
CSM 1 me maybe?
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Paran Tadec
Ancient Exiles
1515
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Posted - 2013.10.30 01:38:00 -
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OZAROW wrote:You scared of scouts rising bro?
Why you would even make this thread is beyond me, but just so you kno; if you you have your skills are up you can get over 600 eHp on a advanced scout if you don't mind being slow.
Scouts want range scan, maybe speed so the re actually faster than a med frame speed assault, an maybe a slot since we lost two since chrome , an CPU pg to actually fit decent gear like any other suit in the game.
Personally you just acted like a scrub for even making such a stupid post.
Nah brah. Just loling at scrubs who complain about getting scan buff instead of hp.
Bittervet Proficiency V
CSM 1 me maybe?
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Paran Tadec
Ancient Exiles
1515
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Posted - 2013.10.30 01:40:00 -
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Palatinate wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Wow, excellent feedback you provide. AR user? Geez. Why do associate everything about a person who posts something stupid as an AR User? You make it seem like AR users are the reason puppies die.
Cause he a scrub. I change weapon depending on the situation
Bittervet Proficiency V
CSM 1 me maybe?
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Beck Weathers
Ghosts of Dawn
188
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Posted - 2013.10.30 01:43:00 -
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Its not really hard to see a scout coming, so your theary on "if your sean your a bad scout" is laughable. People just have to i don't know use their eyes rather than stair at their mini map or relly on their scanner. Its not like the minmatar scout suit is bright blue or anything... oh wait it is, and so easy to Fing spot from 100m away. |
Paran Tadec
Ancient Exiles
1515
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Posted - 2013.10.30 02:12:00 -
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Beck Weathers wrote:Its not really hard to see a scout coming, so your theary on "if your sean your a bad scout" is laughable. People just have to i don't know use their eyes rather than stair at their mini map or relly on their scanner. Its not like the minmatar scout suit is bright blue or anything... oh wait it is, and so easy to Fing spot from 100m away.
Why is a scout out in the open for me to see?
Bittervet Proficiency V
CSM 1 me maybe?
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Draxus Prime
BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
1603
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Posted - 2013.10.30 02:17:00 -
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I'm a dedicated NK user and I somewhat agree with "don't get spotted"
Forum Warrior Level 1
The Master of the Nova Knifes and The Spammer of the Scanner
The Scary Scout
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Draxus Prime
BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
1603
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Posted - 2013.10.30 02:21:00 -
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this won't be a problem soon ccp said new equipment in 1.7 cloak!!!!!
Forum Warrior Level 1
The Master of the Nova Knifes and The Spammer of the Scanner
The Scary Scout
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
The Kaos Legion
301
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Posted - 2013.10.30 02:22:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:If you are spotted, you arnt a good scout. Too bad. If you put youself in a situation where you cant run away, you arnt a good scout. Too bad. GTFO. you have no idea what you're talking about and definitely are not a scout.
what about scanners? if the enemy team has one, then that our stealth advantage is instantly gone
what about the fact that you backpedal at the same pace i move forward, rendering our already terrible hit detection nova knives and shotguns virtually useless?
what about the fact that when we run away, Aim assisted ARs can still kill us at 100 meters?
and you have the nerve to call us bad scouts
How exactly does a Biscuit gain Valor?
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