TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.29 19:46:00 -
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WP's, as of right now, are a terrible mechanic. Farming WP's for orbitals is already an issue (as proven by implementing mechanics to limit accrual) and really contributes nothing else to the fight except for post-game epeen scratching. When a logibro does good in a match (and I'm measuring "good" as end-game WP's, as most people do (for whatever reason)) and goes 6/8, the guy that placed second with their 19/0 comes onto the forums to QQ about how he did better but didn't place as high because of "no-skill WP farming".
Another issue that comes with WP's is that not every action is rewarded. If a sniper is on a mic and is calling out targets, he gets no WP reward. If an AV player keeps a vehicle out of play (not destroyed, just pinned down), he is not rewarded. There are many other instances where someone could contribute to the team, but won't because of the "what's in it for me?" mentality. There's also the cases where you'd want someone to not collect WP's for actions (blowing up supply depots, injector spam).
So how would we get orbitals if we can't farm them? By creating new content, such as secondary objectives. This game is extremely straightforward with its in-game objectives - Cap the points or kill everyone. The game has no variables or anything to make the matches more dynamic. Rather than strictly only having points A-E, add a few secondary objectives to the map. Hack the broadcast node to get access to an orbital timer. Destroy the defenders (FW / PC) disruption tower to allow installation calls. Countless other things could be added as secondary objectives that would make the game more interesting.
WP's are terrible. They create a mentality of "what's in it for me?" on potentially helpful actions and reward other actions that would be deemed detrimental to the team. There's an opportunity to replace this mechanic with new content that would be well-received (at this point, anything new would be well received). Please remove WP's.
Post your ideas for possible WP replacement mechanics.
TL;DR - Paragraph 4.
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TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.29 21:46:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Killar-12 wrote:True Adamance wrote:Without WP how could I know how much I am contributing.
I like WP but they shouldn't be tied to OB strikes.
ISK is what created the "What's in it for me?" mind-set. does WP really show how much you contribute? When I'm sitting in my tank with 2700+ WP and 25 Kills under my belt.... yeah yeah it does 25x50= 1250 (right ) so those other WP must have come from Installation kills Vehicle Kills If you see no other tanks on the map I'm doing my job right. That's the thing though - WP doesn't directly relate to contribution. You get some for doing specific actions, but there's no reward for scaring away infantry, providing mobile cover for allies, or any action aside from killing or destroying. The reward should be a victory, not some extra WP's to lord over the other guys. The current WP system forces players to do specific tasks, regardless if it's actually helpful or not. Removing the system entirely would change the way people play so a match isn't about who can land more orbitals, but what team is actually better than the other.
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