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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2013.10.29 19:08:00 -
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A simple attack/defend mode.
What Section 8: Prejudice did was just to copy and tweak their conquest mode (basically Skirmish). Same objective locations, the only difference is that one team starts with control of all objectives, but can't hack an objective back if it gets hacked; attackers win once all objectives are captured.
Just do the same with Skirmish, and bam, you have a new mode. It would be a really crude and simple way to do it, but various iterations could make it more and more unique (adding different stages, objectives, etc).
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2013.10.29 19:29:00 -
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I want to know why it can't be done.
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2013.10.29 19:58:00 -
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Roldrage wrote:It used to be like that way back in closed beta, one team had all the points and the attackers had to stop the null cannons shooting their MCC (there was only one but it flew over the map to DEF side) before it reached it's destination. I miss those days.
I know about the original Skirmish mode, it was so much fun. Having played it makes the current lack of it painful.
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2013.10.30 19:54:00 -
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Still bothers me, want answers :(
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2013.10.30 20:11:00 -
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Vyzion Eyri wrote:Could be the old 'player base too small to divide any further' conundrum.
I really doubt it, it would be soooooooooooooooooooooooo so so stupid if that was their logic. The player base is small partially because of the lack of modes, so not adding more modes just adds to the vicious cycle. CCP has frequently stated their intent to have new modes, so I don't think that's it.
I seriously would quit this game for a many months and go play MAG if the MAG player population was still high enough to allow me. I'm so damn bored with these modes we have.
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2013.10.30 20:30:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:IIRC, the excuse was that "it made things too one-sided and unfair".
Still makes me laugh that they're worried about fairness there, but anywhere else in the game, all is fair.
I'm not even talking about the original Skirmish 1.0 mode, just any simple attack and defend will do for now.
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2013.10.30 20:44:00 -
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low genius wrote:section 8 was a pretty mediocre cross-console title. not sure why you're having fond memories of it. 
That's my point, despite its mediocrity, it managed to do something so simple and basic (have at least 1 attack/defend mode), which Dust still fails at. If a mediocre game like Section 8 could do it, why can't Dust?
I also used Section 8 because they're a good example of how you can just tweak a neutral Skirmish-like to turn it into an attack/defend mode.
Also, Section 8: Prejudice was actually fun. Decent sized maps, decent variety of game modes (including a PVE horde mode), decent amount of functional customization for armors, different types of grenades and mortars, freakin built-in jetpack. It was really low budget, but it was good at what it tried to do.
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2013.10.30 21:34:00 -
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Space Marine One wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:A simple attack/defend mode.
What Section 8: Prejudice (S8:P) did was just to copy and tweak their conquest mode (basically Skirmish). Same objective locations, the only difference is that one team starts with control of all objectives, but can't hack an objective back if it gets hacked; attackers win once all objectives are captured.
Just do the same with Skirmish, and bam, you have a new mode. It would be a really crude and simple way to do it, but various iterations could make it more and more unique (adding different stages, objectives, etc). Over time it could be crafted into something similar to Skirmish 1.0.
Dust at is point is actually much more polished and just plain better than S8:P (in most ways), so I don't get why S8:P could do it and yet Dust can't do it.
I'm so sick of Ambush and Skirmish (Domination included). yeah but its too simple they should take Q from how MAG done its variant of it 128vs128 domination
I only mean it as a first itteration starting point, pulling off something with the complexity of MAG would be hard. Dust can't handle 256 players, they can't even give us the 48 player battles they've been promising forever ago.
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2013.10.30 21:49:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:The proposed game mode is likely easily doable (relatively compared to current gamemodes), but Skirmish 1.0 is not coming back.
With Dev technical talks (Thank you for responding to my questions in depth!), I've found out that the MCC no longer moves due to the new feature of being able to spawn in the MCC, or rather a "room" placed inside the MCC, and coupled with future rooms being added to the MCC makes it currently impractical to try and get a moving spawn point with moving rooms inside a perfectly synchronized moving MCC as apparently the "docking" feature of old was a headache enough.
Yes Skirmish 1.0 is not coming back, but a similar mode (nicknamed Skirmish 3.0) is planned.
I want something right now though, even if its simple and flawed.
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2013.10.30 22:00:00 -
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crazy space 1 wrote:Dust already had this game mode it was removed because the people in charge of Dust were idiots. Skirmish 1.0 was the best game mode Dust514 had to offer.
What I described is not Skirmish 1.0. What I described has no moving MCC, no stages, no defense relas, and objectives can't be hacked back by defenders.
But yeah, it was foolish to remove Skirmish 1.0, I miss it.
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2014.01.22 18:19:00 -
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A crappy attack/defend mode is better than nothing
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