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Smooth Assassin
Stardust incorporation
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Posted - 2013.10.29 18:26:00 -
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I really appreciate it but i think scouts need something no med frames can get, keep the 16 radius or maybe raise it up to 20 (not if i'm being greedy) and give us something special and like i said, i want something assault, logi or heavies can't get.
I can't stress enough how i hate galante, caldari and minmatar heavy getting more slots than us (amarr loses one slot in all of it's dropsuit)
Assassination is my thing.
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Melchiah ARANeAE
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.10.29 18:30:00 -
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It's a good start, but there's a lot more to change about scouts before we can be competitive outside of pub games.
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Smooth Assassin
Stardust incorporation
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Posted - 2013.10.29 18:43:00 -
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Melchiah ARANeAE wrote:It's a good start, but there's a lot more to change about scouts before we can be competitive outside of pub games. Somehow... every scout is expecting more but i have a feeling its not gonna happen... i hope it does though...
Assassination is my thing.
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Monty Mole Clone
Shiv M
76
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Posted - 2013.10.29 18:48:00 -
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it should go back 25m for all scouts and the active scanner needs fixing so you cant stand and spin for 360 degree coverage |
Smooth Assassin
Stardust incorporation
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Posted - 2013.10.29 18:50:00 -
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Monty Mole Clone wrote:it should go back 25m for all scouts and the active scanner needs fixing so you cant stand and spin for 360 degree coverage I want something special and only for scouts than no one can ever use unless they use scouts.
Assassination is my thing.
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Oswald Rehnquist
Abandoned Privilege General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.10.29 18:50:00 -
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Scout is two fold in what it needs
1) Unique Utility
2) Disengaging unfavorable encounters
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1423666#post1423666
Below db 28
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Qn1f3
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.29 18:52:00 -
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I want to be able to keep myself of the scanners and every red dot on my scanner. That's the main advantage of the scout besides the speed.
But as of now you really tend to play it as an assault or logistics since there is nothing unique about it, nothing tangible at least. |
Monty Mole Clone
Shiv M
76
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Posted - 2013.10.29 19:00:00 -
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Smooth Assassin wrote:Monty Mole Clone wrote:it should go back 25m for all scouts and the active scanner needs fixing so you cant stand and spin for 360 degree coverage I want something special and only for scouts than no one can ever use unless they use scouts.
the cloak could be something like that, if its even being thought of being put in the game |
Smooth Assassin
Stardust incorporation
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Posted - 2013.10.29 19:03:00 -
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Monty Mole Clone wrote:Smooth Assassin wrote:Monty Mole Clone wrote:it should go back 25m for all scouts and the active scanner needs fixing so you cant stand and spin for 360 degree coverage I want something special and only for scouts than no one can ever use unless they use scouts. the cloak could be something like that, if its even being thought of being put in the game I don't think so they removed it cos shotgunners were OP.
Assassination is my thing.
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Django Quik
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
1662
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Posted - 2013.10.29 19:06:00 -
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The cloak gets mentioned a lot both positively (by scouts) and negatively (by scared non-scouts) but no one has any idea how it will work. Allow me to paint a possible picture that would benefit scouts, whilst not specifically making cloaks scout-only:
Cloak equipment will be highly dependent on scan profile. Whilst not making you totally invisible, your image will be obscured to be somewhat blurry/translucent (think Predator camo). If you get within passive scan radius of a person/installation or get passive scanned and the scan precision is below your scan profile, you get revealed. Hey presto, a mechanic that can work for all suits if they fit for stealth but works magically for scouts, without making it uncounterable using proto scanners for instance. Also, installations have unbeatable scan precision within 5-10m, so you couldn't just sit at a CRU and kill everyone that spawns.
Oh yeah, should add that performing any action (shooting/hacking/using equipment) except moving/sprinting/jumping should disable the cloak.
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Smooth Assassin
Stardust incorporation
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Posted - 2013.10.29 19:10:00 -
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Django Quik wrote:The cloak gets mentioned a lot both positively (by scouts) and negatively (by scared non-scouts) but no one has any idea how it will work. Allow me to paint a possible picture that would benefit scouts, whilst not specifically making cloaks scout-only:
Cloak equipment will be highly dependent on scan profile. Whilst not making you totally invisible, your image will be obscured to be somewhat blurry/translucent (think Predator camo). If you get within passive scan radius of a person/installation or get passive scanned and the scan precision is below your scan profile, you get revealed. Hey presto, a mechanic that can work for all suits if they fit for stealth but works magically for scouts, without making it uncounterable using proto scanners for instance. Also, installations have unbeatable scan precision within 5-10m, so you couldn't just sit at a CRU and kill everyone that spawns.
Oh yeah, should add that performing any action (shooting/hacking/using equipment) except moving/sprinting/jumping should disable the cloak. Great i can definitely see the scout community coming back alive.
Assassination is my thing.
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Monty Mole Clone
Shiv M
76
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Posted - 2013.10.29 19:17:00 -
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Django Quik wrote: Oh yeah, should add that performing any action (shooting/hacking/using equipment) except moving/sprinting/jumping should disable the cloak.
the shooting and hacking i agree with but each race should be able to have some sort of scout that can do the rest of those things without breaking the cloak |
Phazoid
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
88
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Posted - 2013.10.29 19:24:00 -
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i have been thinking, what if reactive armor plates gave from 60 to 105hp and gave 2/3.5/5 repair per sec, 15/3 cpu/pg cost basic to 30/10, aaaand restricted for scouts, dont know about you but that as a gallente scout would deserve a party
Feel the Phazon coursing through your veins.
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Django Quik
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
1662
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Posted - 2013.10.29 19:28:00 -
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Monty Mole Clone wrote:Django Quik wrote: Oh yeah, should add that performing any action (shooting/hacking/using equipment) except moving/sprinting/jumping should disable the cloak.
the shooting and hacking i agree with but each race should be able to have some sort of scout that can do the rest of those things without breaking the cloak The rest of what things? Other than shooting and hacking the only other thing that I said should stop cloaks is using equipment, which since the cloak is equipment, would only be capable by logis. I said moving, sprinting and jumping would not stop cloaking.
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Krom Ganesh
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
485
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Posted - 2013.10.29 19:35:00 -
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CCP needs to let scouts take more advantage of their mobility
1. CCP should redesign all outposts to better account for vertical movement & combat (more stairwells, windows, ladders, roofs, etc.) 2. CCP should add shortcuts that only scouts are able to use a. Gaps only scouts can jump across b. Ledges only scouts can jump high enough to get on c. Entryways only scouts can fit through |
Monty Mole Clone
Shiv M
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Posted - 2013.10.29 19:39:00 -
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Django Quik wrote:Monty Mole Clone wrote:Django Quik wrote: Oh yeah, should add that performing any action (shooting/hacking/using equipment) except moving/sprinting/jumping should disable the cloak.
the shooting and hacking i agree with but each race should be able to have some sort of scout that can do the rest of those things without breaking the cloak The rest of what things? Other than shooting and hacking the only other thing that I said should stop cloaks is using equipment, which since the cloak is equipment, would only be capable by logis. I said moving, sprinting and jumping would not stop cloaking.
i missread you, what i mean is that only a scout should be able to do all those things while cloaked, medium and heavy frames should not otherwise you would end up with the, it would be better on any other suit syndrome |
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