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Kallas Hallytyr
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Posted - 2013.10.29 10:50:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Well... it is a wallhack ... i don't even look around me anymore... just the mini-map and right in front of me.
The Active Scanner have replaced my Tactical Awareness, provably one of the best Lazy Tools ever.
I look forward to repeatedly shooting you in the back whenever I see you 
Profile Dampening is a niche skill, but with the advent of Active Scanners it's a very useful skill. As you say, many people are somewhat oblivious to the effect dampening can have on a game and as such become complacent: Scanners are bad for bad players - no offence intended, I'm just trying to say that if you're going to rely on such a piece of equipment, expect to get badly mauled by those who have accounted for it. |
Kallas Hallytyr
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Posted - 2013.10.29 11:30:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Profile Dampening ?.... ha !... don't make me laugh... the active scanner even talks me when is a scout near by...;
Some Margin For Error = Look out for a Scout.
So, either you're not fighting, at which point the dampened person can just delay engagement or you're actively in a brawl at which point you're now spinning around like a moron looking for someone within a hundred metre radius that is not on your radar while the rest of the enemy team is in your face?
Even if a dampened Merc has less EHP (which is fair to say) unless they act like they're entirely invisible (read: moronic) then they aren't going to just run at you and expect you to not notice. Just recently I spent some time running Shotgun in my Dragonfly Scout for fun and spent a lot of time patiently waiting while people moved about. Dampening, and stealth in general, is a lot more about patience than it is about being unseen entirely.
If you pull away from the front lines to try and hunt down a dampened player while you're not dampened, you're at a severe disadvantage: those Mercs that have skilled in dampening are more than likely running with a Scanner, with a squad or both which means they will see you coming, outnumber you or both.
I ain't saying that dampening is a win button or that it is 100% effective, but in the era of the Active Scanner people are getting complacent. Relying on the Mk1 Eyeball and developing a form of intuition is more important in the long run. |
Kallas Hallytyr
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Posted - 2013.10.29 12:13:00 -
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Atiim wrote:The fact that an ADV scanner can beat a scout with 1 proto dampner does not make it OP
It's balanced
Light Frame profile is 45db base.
Medium Frame profile is 50db base.
Profile Dampening 5 (to access proto modules) gives a 10% reduction = 40.5db light/45db medium.
1 Complex Dampener gives a 25% reduction = 30.375db light/33.75db medium.
Advanced Scanners precision is 36db.
Even without levels in Scout, any light frame beats Advanced Scanners with a single Prototype Dampener. Similarly, any medium frame defeats Advanced Scanners with a Complex Dampener. It certainly is more intensive to avoid scanning than it is to participate in Scanfest 2013-2014, but it's not difficult to bring your profile below the precision of the majority of Scanners.
Two Complex Dampeners on a medium frame will bring your profile below all Scanners bar the Focused Prototype. Not everyone can run these modules without a reduction in efficiency/survivability, but it's a trade-off: you either survive somewhat better in a straight up fight or you take the opportunity (and acknowledge that you will have to adapt to a less straight forward methodology) to have skewed engagements where you are much more likely to get the drop on someone which can actually increase your overall lifespan immensely. |
Kallas Hallytyr
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Posted - 2013.10.29 13:06:00 -
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Atiim wrote:I was referring to the "Some margin of error" text, which tells me that a scout is nearby and I should watch my back.
"Some margin of error" versus being lit up for the enemy? I'll take that any day. If anything it adds a little paranoia to those Scanspammers who think they know everything.
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I will need to test this to be certain, but I believe that unless you actually successfully scan something, failing to scan a suit does not show the some margin message. As I said, need to test it to be certain but that appears to be the case from anecdotal evidence I have observed. |
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