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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2013.10.29 06:29:00 -
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Taken from the info I posted on my blog. (Parenthesis are how much of a change there was from pre-1.7 changes)
Small Missile Turret
XT-1 Missile Launcher
Damage: 520 (+65)
Splash Damage: 357.5 (+80)
Blast Radius: 2.5 (+0.5)
RoF: 50 (+12.5)
Optimal Range: 200
Maximum Range: 250 (+50)
PG: 212 (+127)
CPU: 139 (+116)
Large Missile Turret
XT-201 Missile Launcher Damage: 539.5 (+32)
Splash Damage: 162.5 (+58.5)
Blast Radius: 1.5 (-1.5)
RoF: 400 (+376)
Optimal Range: 250
Maximum Range: 250
PG: 985 (+17)
CPU: 231 (+137)
So, they have about the same direct damage with the small missile turret having much higher splash and much higher blast radius. I'm not sure why they decided to nerf the Large Missile Turret's blast radius (it was already struggling to kill infantry, save a direct hit) but the rate of fire increase and 'full-auto' tag in the spreadsheet suggests that we're moving away from the burst fire mode.
I suppose my questions are mostly:
1.) Why nerf the blast radius on the large missile turrets?
2.) Is it still going to be burst fire with less delay between shots or is it going to be all-out full-auto as the tag suggests?
3.) Why retain the same range between the two?
Mostly out of sarcasm:
4.) Can I fit a Small Turret in place of the Large Turret?
ANON Diplomat // 3rd Place Winner of the Eight Thousand Suns Fiction Contest
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2013.10.29 06:54:00 -
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Vyzion Eyri wrote:I think they're trying to highlight the role of the large missile turret as mainly AV. Since it appears splash damage AND direct damage affect the target when you get a direct hit, a boost to splash damage means more direct hit damage.
Combined with a direct damage boost and (apparently) a RoF boost, large missiles are much more powerful against vehicles whilst the splash damage which made them effective against infantry too has been reduced.
Meh. Think Missiles would do great against Infantry, giving the shoddy aiming mechanics with vehicle turrets.
Also, I don't think Direct Damage + Splash Damage is a thing... That was a misconception that spawned from the Month of the Flaylock which CCP stated doesn't happen.
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2013.10.29 07:53:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:You didn't list clip sizes and max ammo stats...
The small turret will fire it's 8 shots in a clip in almost 10 seconds, followed by a 4 second reload time.
The large turret will fire it's 12 shots in a clip in less than 2 seconds, followed by a 10 second reload time.
Do note that there's a skill to reduce reload time, which will affect the large turret more since the base reload time is higher.
Max ammo is 40 on the small turret and 140 on the large turret, so the large turret will have much more ammo. Also note here that there's an ammo skill/modules to increase max ammo, which once again will have a larger impact on the large turret since it has a higher base amount of max ammo.
Taking all of this into account, then the small turret might be good against infantry as well as support for taking down another HAV, but if you are to take down a HAV with only one of these turrets, the large is so much better, and you can probably forget all about killing the other HAV with just a small turret.
This is under the assumption that it is fully automatic though, not retaining it's burst qualities.
Also that it's not going to have the disco tank recoil from before.
Edit: I didn't list the ammo because it's an obvious change, the rest are stat changes of before and after. There was no reason to list the ammo at the time.
ANON Diplomat // 3rd Place Winner of the Eight Thousand Suns Fiction Contest
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2013.10.29 08:00:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:This is under the assumption that it is fully automatic though, not retaining it's burst qualities.
Also that it's not going to have the disco tank recoil from before. What assumption? It clearly says full-auto in the stats given. But if that's not good enough for you it has been confirmed elsewhere too...
Man, would you calm down? Seriously, every time you post it's just seething acid dripping from your finger tips lmfao
Post up the confirmation please as I haven't seen it...
ANON Diplomat // 3rd Place Winner of the Eight Thousand Suns Fiction Contest
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2013.10.29 08:10:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Post up the confirmation please as I haven't seen it... HereIf that's not good enough for you further confirmation was given on IRC, which I'm unable to post. Listing clip size and max ammo stats were pretty important since you were comparing the two turrets and were sort of implying that the small turret will be a better turret than the large turret, and the clip size and max ammo stats would make it clear that the large turret will be much better than the small turret.
You of all people should know as well as I do how things work when they're transferred from paper to Dust 514 - so I'd appreciate it if you'd step off the pedestal.
ANON Diplomat // 3rd Place Winner of the Eight Thousand Suns Fiction Contest
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2013.10.29 08:29:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:You of all people should know as well as I do how things work when they're transferred from paper to Dust 514 - so I'd appreciate it if you'd step off the pedestal. I already said further confirmation have been given on IRC, something that Heinz Doofenshertz is basing his post upon as well.
That's all well and good - but not everyone browses the IRC and that information wasn't known until now.
ANON Diplomat // 3rd Place Winner of the Eight Thousand Suns Fiction Contest
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