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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
The Kaos Legion
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Posted - 2013.10.28 01:54:00 -
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no, this will not be another rant
usually they are bullshit. and i mean BULLSHIT. half your attacks dont hit and the SLIGHTEST movement to the side and your opponent dodged your strike.
but today was different (a little bit). i actually had quite a few good matches (15/3 14/4 9/3) and when i did, it reminded me of what it was like before 1.4.
of course i had alot if ****** matches too, but i actually overrall feel good about today.
i wish they always worked like today... |
Patrick57
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
960
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Posted - 2013.10.28 01:57:00 -
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please don't
This thread is now hijacked by Taco pirates. Proceed. |
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
The Kaos Legion
271
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Posted - 2013.10.28 02:04:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:please don't This thread is now hijacked by Taco pirates. Proceed. lolwut? |
DeadlyAztec11
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
2306
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Posted - 2013.10.28 02:07:00 -
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I can't believe this entire taco phenomenon happened just because I told Ripper I like tacos.
LOL |
Smooth Assassin
Stardust incorporation
283
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Posted - 2013.10.28 02:07:00 -
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Yeah knives are broken, apparently if you're back-pedaling you're immune to nova knives and you receive sparkly blue sparks. |
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
The Kaos Legion
272
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Posted - 2013.10.28 02:13:00 -
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Smooth Assassin wrote:Yeah knives are broken, apparently if you're back-pedaling you're immune to nova knives and you receive sparkly blue sparks. seriously. and apparently us nova knifers cant charge and sprint, but we have to have BULLSHIT hit detection.
all ccp has done is **** us over even more than before.
but lets keep it positive.
7 out of 20 matches nova knives actually worked. |
Smooth Assassin
Stardust incorporation
284
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Posted - 2013.10.28 02:17:00 -
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:Smooth Assassin wrote:Yeah knives are broken, apparently if you're back-pedaling you're immune to nova knives and you receive sparkly blue sparks. seriously. and apparently us nova knifers cant charge and sprint, but we have to have BULLSHIT hit detection. all ccp has done is **** us over even more than before. but lets keep it positive. 7 out of 20 matches nova knives actually worked. Its like trying to melee someone you gotta stay close range but backstabbing works best with scanner, once today it saved my life cos a guy snuck up on me and shot me with his AR so i jumped and got closed range and slashed him to death. |
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
The Kaos Legion
272
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Posted - 2013.10.28 02:57:00 -
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Smooth Assassin wrote:TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:Smooth Assassin wrote:Yeah knives are broken, apparently if you're back-pedaling you're immune to nova knives and you receive sparkly blue sparks. seriously. and apparently us nova knifers cant charge and sprint, but we have to have BULLSHIT hit detection. all ccp has done is **** us over even more than before. but lets keep it positive. 7 out of 20 matches nova knives actually worked. Its like trying to melee someone you gotta stay close range but backstabbing works best with scanner, once today it saved my life cos a guy snuck up on me and shot me with his AR so i jumped and got closed range and slashed him to death. nice i havent been using a scanner lately. i'll probably re equip it when i get on. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
6696
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Posted - 2013.10.28 03:01:00 -
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I still don't see why CCP doesn't straight up make charging while sprinting a thing. You're bringing a knife to a gunfight, things aren't exactly balanced anyway. This must have something to do with knives being the default melee back in beta. |
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
The Kaos Legion
272
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Posted - 2013.10.28 03:04:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:I still don't see why CCP doesn't straight up make charging while sprinting a thing. You're bringing a knife to a gunfight, things aren't exactly balanced anyway. This must have something to do with knives being the default melee back in beta. either way its BS. literally ALL odds are stacked against us and they still throw us to wolves. |
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OZAROW
WarRavens League of Infamy
985
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Posted - 2013.10.28 03:26:00 -
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I personally love it when the proto stompers come in packs of 4 an 6 , caldari logis all taking turns scanning FRUKKIN CONSTANTLY! But as much as its nice to complain about the knives it's better to not make it known their bad.
Last night it saved my life, Alfonzo P an his proto goons came to stomp our match seeking an destroying in a scanner pack, an I got surrounded hiding between B an A at the base of a pilar hiding in the nook, an P could see me in his passive radar an so could I. So when he turned the corner I shot gunned his face, got barely any damage, so I pulled out the knives, he dropped a core nade an we both left in opposite directions, I flanked the cliff fast as I could to get behind him but he was gone.
Just the fear of knives saved me, so it's better everyone stays scared of them |
Eldest Dragon
0uter.Heaven
183
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Posted - 2013.10.28 03:33:00 -
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OZAROW wrote:I personally love it when the proto stompers come in packs of 4 an 6 , caldari logis all taking turns scanning FRUKKIN CONSTANTLY! But as much as its nice to complain about the knives it's better to not make it known their bad.
Last night it saved my life, Alfonzo P an his proto goons came to stomp our match seeking an destroying in a scanner pack, an I got surrounded hiding between B an A at the base of a pilar hiding in the nook, an P could see me in his passive radar an so could I. So when he turned the corner I shot gunned his face, got barely any damage, so I pulled out the knives, he dropped a core nade an we both left in opposite directions, I flanked the cliff fast as I could to get behind him but he was gone.
Just the fear of knives saved me, so it's better everyone stays scared of them
It's alonzo p just so you know, ( alfonzo ), lmfao. |
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
The Kaos Legion
273
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Posted - 2013.10.28 03:39:00 -
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OZAROW wrote:I personally love it when the proto stompers come in packs of 4 an 6 , caldari logis all taking turns scanning FRUKKIN CONSTANTLY! But as much as its nice to complain about the knives it's better to not make it known their bad.
Last night it saved my life, Alfonzo P an his proto goons came to stomp our match seeking an destroying in a scanner pack, an I got surrounded hiding between B an A at the base of a pilar hiding in the nook, an P could see me in his passive radar an so could I. So when he turned the corner I shot gunned his face, got barely any damage, so I pulled out the knives, he dropped a core nade an we both left in opposite directions, I flanked the cliff fast as I could to get behind him but he was gone.
Just the fear of knives saved me, so it's better everyone stays scared of them i wish that would happen for me. every time i pull out knives they either backpedal until they are out of my range or get relly ballsy and go in for the kill. i can usually get them when the second happens, but more often that not its the first one... |
Cosgar
ParagonX
6696
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Posted - 2013.10.28 03:45:00 -
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:Cosgar wrote:I still don't see why CCP doesn't straight up make charging while sprinting a thing. You're bringing a knife to a gunfight, things aren't exactly balanced anyway. This must have something to do with knives being the default melee back in beta. either way its BS. literally ALL odds are stacked against us and they still throw us to wolves. I think I might have a solution. |
OZAROW
WarRavens League of Infamy
986
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Posted - 2013.10.28 05:57:00 -
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Eldest Dragon wrote:OZAROW wrote:I personally love it when the proto stompers come in packs of 4 an 6 , caldari logis all taking turns scanning FRUKKIN CONSTANTLY! But as much as its nice to complain about the knives it's better to not make it known their bad.
Last night it saved my life, Alfonzo P an his proto goons came to stomp our match seeking an destroying in a scanner pack, an I got surrounded hiding between B an A at the base of a pilar hiding in the nook, an P could see me in his passive radar an so could I. So when he turned the corner I shot gunned his face, got barely any damage, so I pulled out the knives, he dropped a core nade an we both left in opposite directions, I flanked the cliff fast as I could to get behind him but he was gone.
Just the fear of knives saved me, so it's better everyone stays scared of them It's alonzo p just so you know, ( alfonzo ), lmfao. Hahaha typo, he deserves it LMFAO, good player just irritating to fight squads like his in a pub match with a shyt team, but some how our scout squad won |
Niuvo
NECROM0NGERS
672
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Posted - 2013.10.28 06:07:00 -
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I am shocked when I think they saw me miss with the knives and they are still oblivious of the attack. So you try again and again until he dies or you die. Many protos have lived due to this. By any standards they were as good as dead. I think it is absolutely awesome how a skin and bones dropsuit can NK proto meds and heavy suits. |
OZAROW
WarRavens League of Infamy
986
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Posted - 2013.10.28 06:11:00 -
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I wish we had the x button splinter cell slit the throat an grab the head as a option if we are super close= no hit detection issues , so we could slash, charge slash an ohk takedown ! |
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
The Kaos Legion
278
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Posted - 2013.10.28 11:25:00 -
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Niuvo wrote:I am shocked when I think they saw me miss with the knives and they are still oblivious of the attack. So you try again and again until he dies or you die. Many protos have lived due to this. By any standards they were as good as dead. I think it is absolutely awesome how a skin and bones dropsuit can NK proto meds and heavy suits. my first few matches were great, but when later in the night, not so much. i'll chock it up to the fact that i always play worse in any video game later on in the night. hopefullyi have more good matches. i was in a M-1 so it was pretty cheap. plus, they reduced the cost of proto nova knives. |
Heinrich Jagerblitzen
D3LTA FORC3
976
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Posted - 2013.10.28 11:29:00 -
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I am aware of some specific fixes on their way for Nova Knives. Rest assured CCP is aware there are problems. They'll have to be the ones to tell you what, and when, but I don't mind sharing the fact that your plight is not being ignored.
^^All of the above applies to Shotguns as well. |
Ryder Azorria
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
686
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Posted - 2013.10.28 11:34:00 -
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:Cosgar wrote:I still don't see why CCP doesn't straight up make charging while sprinting a thing. You're bringing a knife to a gunfight, things aren't exactly balanced anyway. This must have something to do with knives being the default melee back in beta. either way its BS. literally ALL odds are stacked against us and they still throw us to wolves. Well then, I guess you shouldn't have brought a knife to a gun fight.
But seriously, knifes aren't really meant to be a primary weapon, unless you're playing it stealthy and picking of the stragglers / snipers - in which case they shouldn't have a chance to back pedal away, assuming you're doing it right.
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pegasis prime
BIG BAD W0LVES
1221
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Posted - 2013.10.28 11:35:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:please don't This thread is now hijacked by Taco pirates. Proceed.
ahhheemmm taco pirates with bacon weave shirts please. |
IgniteableAura
Pro Hic Immortalis
255
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Posted - 2013.10.28 12:02:00 -
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Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote:I am aware of some specific fixes on their way for Nova Knives. Rest assured CCP is aware there are problems. They'll have to be the ones to tell you what, and when, but I don't mind sharing the fact that your plight is not being ignored. ^^All of the above applies to Shotguns as well.
Hans, is there a time frame? 1.6, 1.7....soon, soonTIM? |
Heinrich Jagerblitzen
D3LTA FORC3
978
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Posted - 2013.10.28 13:19:00 -
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IgniteableAura wrote:Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote:I am aware of some specific fixes on their way for Nova Knives. Rest assured CCP is aware there are problems. They'll have to be the ones to tell you what, and when, but I don't mind sharing the fact that your plight is not being ignored. ^^All of the above applies to Shotguns as well. Hans, is there a time frame? 1.6, 1.7....soon, soonTIM?
That question is for CCP. Remember - the role of the CPM is to be spokespeople from the community to CCP, not from CCP to the community. I just feel everyone's frustration and try to do what I can sometimes to let you guys know that you're heard, that's all. |
OZAROW
WarRavens League of Infamy
986
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Posted - 2013.10.28 13:32:00 -
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Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote:I am aware of some specific fixes on their way for Nova Knives. Rest assured CCP is aware there are problems. They'll have to be the ones to tell you what, and when, but I don't mind sharing the fact that your plight is not being ignored. ^^All of the above applies to Shotguns as well. Bless your heart good merc, wiggle in a CPU an pg increase an some slots too if you can manage. After all x mas is almost here |
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
The Kaos Legion
282
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Posted - 2013.10.28 15:11:00 -
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Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote:I am aware of some specific fixes on their way for Nova Knives. Rest assured CCP is aware there are problems. They'll have to be the ones to tell you what, and when, but I don't mind sharing the fact that your plight is not being ignored. ^^All of the above applies to Shotguns as well. that's great! i'm hoping for 1.6 or 1.7 |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
4775
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Posted - 2013.10.28 15:35:00 -
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Ryder Azorria wrote:But seriously, knifes aren't really meant to be a primary weapon (this is NOT CoD) unless you're playing it stealthy and picking of the stragglers / snipers - in which case they shouldn't be a gunfight to begin with, assuming you're doing it right..
Not if I have anything to say about it.
The Nova Knives are special because they present a specific set of challenges for any player. Unlike other weapons that improve and get better with training skill books, the Nova Knives are the only ones that don't rely on that. They rely instead on the experience of the user itself.
It takes a lot of careful preparation and coordination for a lone knifer to be able to close in on a target at the risk of being spotted and mowed down by a gun. This often forces the user to invest months of practice due to having to reprogram themselves from old habits and going into developing new habits that are completely out of the comfort zone of the user.
But once that is achieved, the user can become a mean killing machine with just the knives alone. I was the first to pull it off back in closed beta at a time when the Nova Knives were considered nothing by jokes. People mocked me for even trying. But by the time open beta arrived, everyone feared me and anyone else who held a knife.
Now imagine a pack of experienced ninja knifers running around with knives in the cities.
But then Uprising 1.4 came and they got nerfed. Not directly nerfed but indirectly instead. Hit detection became more problematic strafing was reduced considerably. But as 1.5 arrived, the sprint-charge glitch got fixed. This glitch was the only thing that made the knives any useful at all as players were able to sprint with the charge held in the blades. But now it has become impossible to be an effective knifer here because everyone can avoid a charged knife attack easily by simply back pedaling since your backward speed is equal to the forward movement speed. As a result, most of us including me have been relegated to just camping out objectives and staying in the shadows for prolonged periods of time as we miss out on all the action. |
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
The Kaos Legion
282
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Posted - 2013.10.28 15:39:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Ryder Azorria wrote:But seriously, knifes aren't really meant to be a primary weapon (this is NOT CoD) unless you're playing it stealthy and picking of the stragglers / snipers - in which case they shouldn't be a gunfight to begin with, assuming you're doing it right.. Not if I have anything to say about it. The Nova Knives are special because they present a specific set of challenges for any player. Unlike other weapons that improve and get better with training skill books, the Nova Knives are the only ones that don't rely on that. They rely instead on the experience of the user itself. It takes a lot of careful preparation and coordination for a lone knifer to be able to close in on a target at the risk of being spotted and mowed down by a gun. This often forces the user to invest months of practice due to having to reprogram themselves from old habits and going into developing new habits that are completely out of the comfort zone of the user. But once that is achieved, the user can become a mean killing machine with just the knives alone. I was the first to pull it off back in closed beta at a time when the Nova Knives were considered nothing by jokes. People mocked me for even trying. But by the time open beta arrived, everyone feared me and anyone else who held a knife. Now imagine a pack of experienced ninja knifers running around with knives in the cities. But then Uprising 1.4 came and they got nerfed. Not directly nerfed but indirectly instead. Hit detection became more problematic strafing was reduced considerably. But as 1.5 arrived, the sprint-charge glitch got fixed. This glitch was the only thing that made the knives any useful at all as players were able to sprint with the charge held in the blades. But now it has become impossible to be an effective knifer here because everyone can avoid a charged knife attack easily by simply back pedaling since your backward speed is equal to the forward movement speed. As a result, most of us including me have been relegated to just camping out objectives and staying in the shadows for prolonged periods of time as we miss out on all the action. pretty much. I never run knives on a proto fit anymore, because I will just lose millions of isk. I main shotgun (until the NKs get fixed) and get much more kills by defending an objective from squads |
Smooth Assassin
Stardust incorporation
289
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Posted - 2013.10.28 16:45:00 -
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Hey guys does nova knives work with sidearm damage mod or melee damage mod? cos the logicloop suit got 1 melee damage mod on it. |
Lightning Bolt2
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
297
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Posted - 2013.10.28 17:04:00 -
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Smooth Assassin wrote:Hey guys does nova knives work with sidearm damage mod or melee damage mod? cos the logicloop suit got 1 melee damage mod on it.
sidearm DMG mod. |
Smooth Assassin
Stardust incorporation
289
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Posted - 2013.10.28 17:22:00 -
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Lightning Bolt2 wrote:Smooth Assassin wrote:Hey guys does nova knives work with sidearm damage mod or melee damage mod? cos the logicloop suit got 1 melee damage mod on it. sidearm DMG mod. Thanks, its a shame to lose armor cos of speed and shield cos of damage mods. |
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