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Ares 514
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Posted - 2013.10.28 16:51:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Can I ask a question?
Is something an 'exploit' if it harms the user for using it? They're losing ISK for locking districts now.
You may ask.
The answer is you can still profit from locking your own districts. This seems to be the sad state of many corps these days, Red Star included. |
Ares 514
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Posted - 2013.10.28 16:58:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:I heard Red Star has 20 Billion ISK  . Well, if WTF wanted their land, they should not have let them farm so much isk over the last couple of months. People can't complain about EoN corps being wealthy when they weren't fighting them to prevent their coffers from overflowing.
Yes, because 100 clones vs the 300 / 450 full clones that went on forever after the initial land grab CPP created really gave you a fighting chance :)
Especially when as soon as you took a district certain, ummm, well established corporations would attack with 390 odd clones and lag you out :)
Snide remarks aside, PC mechanics have been broken for some time and the issues have made it very challenging for anyone to do much about pre-established corporations, unless of course you allied with them. |
Ares 514
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Posted - 2013.10.28 17:07:00 -
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Knight Soiaire wrote:Ares 514 wrote:The Attorney General wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:I heard Red Star has 20 Billion ISK . Well, if WTF wanted their land, they should not have let them farm so much isk over the last couple of months. People can't complain about EoN corps being wealthy when they weren't fighting them to prevent their coffers from overflowing. Yes, because 100 clones vs the 300 / 450 full clones that went on forever after the initial land grab CPP created really gave you a fighting chance :) Especially when as soon as you took a district certain, ummm, well established corporations would attack with 390 odd clones and lag you out :) Snide remarks aside, PC mechanics have been broken for some time and the issues have made it very challenging for anyone to do much about pre-established corporations, unless of course you allied with them. I think your PS3 is about to blow. I saw the same 'Lag' tactic being used in PC last night, and I was getting a stable FPS when around them. Anyway, what lags you, will lag them. What makes you think they're immune to it?
I knew you'd pop up!
I was pointing out that PC has / had a ton of issues that made it extremely challenging for corporations to enter that didn't hold multiple districts UNLESS they allied / paid of some big corps.
With specifics to lag I know everyone has experienced it to some extent but there are definitely some actions that trigger more lag (fix it CCP!) and some corps may take advantage of this if they take a lead early on...
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Ares 514
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Posted - 2013.10.28 18:22:00 -
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Knight Soiaire wrote:Well of course I'd pop up. You're being completely stupid. If it lags you it lags them. I dont get why all of P.O.I.N.T.L.E.S.S A.C.R.O.N.Y.M seem to think that Red Star are some kind of gods that are granted immunity to these tactics. I assume its just butthurt. Quote:Especially when as soon as you took a district certain, ummm, well established corporations would attack with 390 odd clones and lag you out :) Yes, because attacking a District with the intention of taking it is disgraceful, and should be punished.
Your like a bad rash.
I'll keep this simple for you. In my original comments I was speaking about why it would have been hard to do anything about EoN or any alliance that had a large number of districts if you were coming in with none given the PC mechanics / issues. This was a broader concept then just Red Star.
In regards to your enlightening comment about if it lags you it lags them, i'll ignore the fact that this may not be the case since there are some ways to mitigate lag and answer the very simplistic statement you put forth and why there is potential for abuse.
a) Team A takes the lead.
b) Introduce our old friend lag.
c) Team B has to attempt to gain one or more points while experiencing said lag since they are behind.
d) Team A is in a much stronger position even if they have the same lag.
e) Team B is screwed.
This of course is based of the fact that it is extremely hard to accomplish anything while experiencing lag.
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Ares 514
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Posted - 2013.10.28 18:32:00 -
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Knight Soiaire wrote:Ares 514 wrote:Knight Soiaire wrote:Well of course I'd pop up. You're being completely stupid. If it lags you it lags them. I dont get why all of P.O.I.N.T.L.E.S.S A.C.R.O.N.Y.M seem to think that Red Star are some kind of gods that are granted immunity to these tactics. I assume its just butthurt. Quote:Especially when as soon as you took a district certain, ummm, well established corporations would attack with 390 odd clones and lag you out :) Yes, because attacking a District with the intention of taking it is disgraceful, and should be punished. Your like a bad rash. I'll keep this simple for you. In my original comments I was speaking about why it would have been hard to do anything about EoN or any alliance that had a large number of districts if you were coming in with none given the PC mechanics / issues. This was a broader concept then just Red Star. In regards to your enlightening comment about if it lags you it lags them, i'll ignore the fact that this may not be the case since there are some ways to mitigate lag and answer the very simplistic statement you put forth and why there is potential for abuse. a) Team A takes the lead. b) Introduce our old friend lag. c) Team B has to attempt to gain one or more points while experiencing said lag since they are behind. d) Team A is in a much stronger position even if they have the same lag. e) Team B is screwed. This of course is based of the fact that it is extremely hard to accomplish anything while experiencing lag. Maybe if you didn't suck so much it would be easier to get the upper hand first. Just sayin. The hive spam doesn't lag me, even in PC. What we've got here is a very serious case of butthurt. And the only way to treat this illness, is to well.... Git gud.
If you're as good in game as you are at avoiding the actual topic of conversation in your posts then I would be screwed. I clearly pointed out why lag can cause issues depending on which side is ahead. Enough said.
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