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TIMMY DAVIS Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 3	Posted - 2013.10.27 23:06:00 - [1] - Quote With certain dropsuit upgrades and actual dropsuits, some players do not show up on scanners. This should not be allowed. This one fellow had 17 kills to 0 and he didn't have a scanner image ever, that I saw. I know cry baby. No, unfair. I'm not a tank, but I'm not a newbie either. Unless you were looking right at him, he was invisible - this game is not designed to work with characters like that. This is not the real world where we can get sensory info from all five senses - we are stuck with the things you provide us. This is simply put not fair.
Thurak1 Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 347	Posted - 2013.10.27 23:19:00 - [2] - Quote Any idea if he had skills to dampen his profile? Or maybe he was using profile dampeners? It is a part of the game to be stealthy electronically. Of course if this player was a heavy then different story.
medomai grey WarRavens League of Infamy 291	Posted - 2013.10.27 23:25:00 - [3] - Quote It's not unfair. That player just knew how to counter scanners.
Jrakraa5 ZilchmobZ Industries 8	Posted - 2013.10.27 23:27:00 - [4] - Quote its part of the game. if your butt hurt now, they might be making a cloaking system and that's a much larger issue than not showing up on a scanner
Kallas Hallytyr Skullbreakers 24	Posted - 2013.10.28 01:15:00 - [5] - Quote If you don't bring a scanner, people don't show up on radar. NERF NOT HAVING SCANNERS!!! Wat?
TIMMY DAVIS Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 3	Posted - 2013.10.28 01:44:00 - [6] - Quote With such useful and constructive criticism, its a wonder anyone comments in these forums.
Dominus Fatali Nox Aeterna Security 515	Posted - 2013.10.28 01:49:00 - [7] - Quote TIMMY DAVIS wrote: With such useful and constructive criticism, its a wonder anyone comments in these forums. Were you, or was anyone in your Squad, using an Active Scanner? Was the person a Scout? Was he a Snipper too far away to be scanned? We don't know what you are complaining about without more information.
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 639	Posted - 2013.10.28 01:50:00 - [8] - Quote TIMMY DAVIS wrote: With such useful and constructive criticism, its a wonder anyone comments in these forums. Its working as intended. Stealth is a viable tactic in this game.
Lynn Beck Granite Mercenary Division 180	Posted - 2013.10.28 02:11:00 - [9] - Quote By sheer likelyhood, if he was a scout, he's weak to begin with, and if he has a dampener... that's one out of 5 slots being used to dodge the zergatron (a device used to locate people not dying with the pack, ultimately leading the pack to zerg rush that person in hatred). Use your eyes more, instead of that little radar thing. If you find him before he gets within 20m, he's screwed, because his tank has been sacrificed so as to not be zerg-rushed. +1 for viable tactics!
Aviles Novashift 6	Posted - 2013.10.28 02:22:00 - [10] - Quote Lynn Beck wrote: By sheer likelyhood, if he was a scout, he's weak to begin with, and if he has a dampener... that's one out of 5 slots being used to dodge the zergatron (a device used to locate people not dying with the pack, ultimately leading the pack to zerg rush that person in hatred). Use your eyes more, instead of that little radar thing. If you find him before he gets within 20m, he's screwed, because his tank has been sacrificed so as to not be zerg-rushed. +1 for viable tactics! I have to agree with you. There are systems in place to hide yourself from scans. What use are they if they don't work. Not everyone uses them and usually people go more for defense or offense. So finding someone geared for stealth and using it well is actually a good thing. I personally never use a scanner so I HAVE to rely on my eyes. If someone else is using one thats a plus, but still my eyes are the first thing I use.

Draco Cerberus Hell's Gate Inc 436	Posted - 2013.10.28 08:20:00 - [11] - Quote With stacked complex dampeners it is quite possible within game mechanics to be "invisible" unless you look at the player, and if they don't move, in a black suit in the shadows he just might be invisible. It is well within the game mechanics and is most definitely allowable. Check out the skill next time you are needing something to spend points on, it is well worth it.
Alphaman Blaq Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2013.10.28 08:32:00 - [12] - Quote ye i was trying to do this make a invisable player but for some reason it didnt work , Im a scout A1 gallente so far maybe i need to use some dampners but i thought that they just work for scanners ??? I must be worng about that , but when i used the mutia ones stacked ppl still lite me up.
Godin Thekiller Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 1310	Posted - 2013.10.28 10:07:00 - [13] - Quote So, make scouts lose the only small little thing they have? No.
Pocket Rocket Girl Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 67	Posted - 2013.10.28 14:46:00 - [14] - Quote it happened to me against a caldari with 400+ shields and 400+ armor i couldnt get him on a scan it was a CK.0 and he was using a Duvolle and he had uplinks for equpment thats all the info i was able to get
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 4360	Posted - 2013.10.28 14:49:00 - [15] - Quote Pocket Rocket Girl wrote: it happened to me against a caldari with 400+ shields and 400+ armor i couldnt get him on a scan it was a CK.0 and he was using a Duvolle and he had uplinks for equpment thats all the info i was able to get What scanner were you using? With standard, it is possible to avoid those scans in a logisuit with maxed skills and no other fittings. With advanced, it is possible to avoid those scans by fitting a single complex dampener.
CLONE117 Planetary Response Organization Test Friends Please Ignore 437	Posted - 2013.10.28 15:04:00 - [16] - Quote ..... what is the world coming too?!.. you are complaining about a single individual player who managed to counter a scanner. those senses can be used with in the game. such as sound and sight. the others.. well they rnt really useful for anything other than eating your food and holding a controller.. along with hit indicators. which should tell u where you r being shot at from. no massive need to rely on active scanners all day. i dont see much reason to complain about anything here. they r not invisible if u can see them with your eyes.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 4776	Posted - 2013.10.28 16:08:00 - [17] - Quote TIMMY DAVIS wrote: With certain dropsuit upgrades and actual dropsuits, some players do not show up on scanners. This should not be allowed. This one fellow had 17 kills to 0 and he didn't have a scanner image ever, that I saw. I know cry baby. No, unfair. I'm not a tank, but I'm not a newbie either. Unless you were looking right at him, he was invisible - this game is not designed to work with characters like that. This is not the real world where we can get sensory info from all five senses - we are stuck with the things you provide us. This is simply put not fair. 1. Stealth is a legitimate tactic just like camping. 2. Not everyone here want to line up for you in a single row like colonial-era British Red Coats. 3. It's not unfair. That player is sacrificing armor in favor of stealth. If you see him in front of you, you can take him down in a few shots. 4. What scanner are you using? If you're only using a standard-level scanner, there is your problem. 5. THIS GAME IS INTENTIONALLY DESIGNED BY CCP TO WORK WITH STEALTH PLAYERS. In case you didn't hear the news, CCP is already working on a cloaking device to be fitted on a suit as an equipment. CCP, please fix the Nova Knives. Thank you.
Lightning Bolt2 Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 297	Posted - 2013.10.28 16:40:00 - [18] - Quote TIMMY DAVIS wrote: With certain dropsuit upgrades and actual dropsuits, some players do not show up on scanners. This should not be allowed. This one fellow had 17 kills to 0 and he didn't have a scanner image ever, that I saw. I know cry baby. No, unfair. I'm not a tank, but I'm not a newbie either. Unless you were looking right at him, he was invisible - this game is not designed to work with characters like that. This is not the real world where we can get sensory info from all five senses - we are stuck with the things you provide us. This is simply put not fair. I've had three games like that in my SCOUT SUIT MADE FOR STEALTH the other day! It's got a profile dampener on top of high skills, so I'm not gonna get scanned unless you pull out that OP duvoll AR- er active scanner! and also I'm a very good Nova Knifer, if you don't see me your dead. since the scanner came out, its been very fun because they don't seem to believe the WARNING the scanner gives them when I don't get scanned! simple tip, don't get tunnel vision.


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