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Rinzler XVII
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Posted - 2013.10.26 23:22:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Just played a match for Amarr with about 12 NPC corp guys on my side and lost. If you added up all the kills the other 15 guys on my team got then multiplied it by 3 i would still have the majority of the kills on our side.
These new guys out of FW should stay out really need to stay out of FW for a few weeks before they learn the gameplay.
Why the hell should they ?
You protostomp in pubgames saying I have it, its mine so ill use it as i please and then have the cheek to complain about new players not being very good in FW and telling them to play something else ?
Seriously go f*** yourself ... your arrogance is disgusting so shove your egotistical self important nonsense where the sun doesn't shine you c*ckmunching pr*ck
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Posted - 2013.10.27 00:03:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Rinzler XVII wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Just played a match for Amarr with about 12 NPC corp guys on my side and lost. If you added up all the kills the other 15 guys on my team got then multiplied it by 3 i would still have the majority of the kills on our side.
These new guys out of FW should stay out really need to stay out of FW for a few weeks before they learn the gameplay. Why the hell should they ? You protostomp in pubgames saying I have it, its mine so ill use it as i please and then have the cheek to complain about new players not being very good in FW and telling them to play something else ? Seriously go f*** yourself ... your arrogance is disgusting so shove your egotistical self important nonsense where the sun doesn't shine you c*ckmunching pr*ck You mad bro, just saying if they are having game modes where there should be competition between different faction that are effecting people making them fight you should have to fight people who have a basic knowledge of the game, inorder for them to get that knowledge they can start in pub contracts and work there way up. What is the point of having noobs fight for faction when they don't even know what they are fighting for.
Yes I am mad, you disgust me to the core
As I have so often seen scrubs like you say ... It's CCP's fault for not having the academy last longer if they haven't done anything about it then why shouldn't they do X / Y / Z .. sorry but if you can protostomp pubgames then blueberries can run around in FW ruining your games and contributing to you losing
If you really want to address the issue stop running proto in pubgames give the blueberries a chance ad maybe they wont feel the need to try out FW to try and get away from it all |
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Posted - 2013.10.27 00:08:00 -
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THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:TBH 2 guys can pubstomp entire squads. Me n a corpmate did it just last night on an OMS, other side had a full proto squad, while me n my corpy went 26/3 nd 28/2 whilst all people below us went like 7/5 or so(for the rest of our squad) and blueberries going like 1/3 nd 0/9 nd ****. Yet we still win as a stomp because it was long bridge, funneling people so numbers matter less, whilst me n my squadmate are completely decimating their entire team by ourselves. Protos included.
Im just saying its hard as hell to do, but a single person can pull all the weight if conditions are right.
I've heard the E=PEEN waving all before, you are wasting your time
Yes yes you've done this and that when using this and that gear .. yadda yadda yadda .. so have I so has everyone else .. we aren't talking what can happen every now and again we are talking about what happens MOST of the time |
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Posted - 2013.10.27 00:47:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Rinzler XVII wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Rinzler XVII wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Just played a match for Amarr with about 12 NPC corp guys on my side and lost. If you added up all the kills the other 15 guys on my team got then multiplied it by 3 i would still have the majority of the kills on our side.
These new guys out of FW should stay out really need to stay out of FW for a few weeks before they learn the gameplay. Why the hell should they ? You protostomp in pubgames saying I have it, its mine so ill use it as i please and then have the cheek to complain about new players not being very good in FW and telling them to play something else ? Seriously go f*** yourself ... your arrogance is disgusting so shove your egotistical self important nonsense where the sun doesn't shine you c*ckmunching pr*ck You mad bro, just saying if they are having game modes where there should be competition between different faction that are effecting people making them fight you should have to fight people who have a basic knowledge of the game, inorder for them to get that knowledge they can start in pub contracts and work there way up. What is the point of having noobs fight for faction when they don't even know what they are fighting for. Yes I am mad, you disgust me to the core As I have so often seen scrubs like you say ... It's CCP's fault for not having the academy last longer if they haven't done anything about it then why shouldn't they do X / Y / Z .. sorry but if you can protostomp pubgames then blueberries can run around in FW ruining your games and contributing to you losing If you really want to address the issue stop running proto in pubgames give the blueberries a chance and maybe they wont feel the need to try out FW to try and get away from it all .... Every single counter or troll you have ever written in support of protostomping can be counter used and applied in response here so .... Fill in the gaps and the conclusion is HTFU So when the other team has 10 protosuit on there side you are saying i should run standard, when i have the ISK to wear protosuit and actually combat them to help out my team and try to push them back, no you are saying i should restrict myself to standard and just let myself get ass raped, by the 10 protosuits. I don't wear protosuit just when things are going good, i will wear protosuits even if i know i will lose 10-20 of them inorder to help out my team. Do i need to be a greedy cheap ass hole 24/7 and just think about myself and not the people i fight with in order to be a good person in your mind.
You are already an ass hole 24/7 using protogear in pubgames so what difference does it make, you wont change your ways I'm just pointing out that you are a hypocrite
I actually understand your point but you cannot ask for new players to not be allowed to take part in FW on one hand and then continue to use and defend the use of protogear on the other hand
You either get onboard the fix matchmaking train or you stay on the leave it as it is platform you cant segregate new players away from FW for your benefit and not segregate the vets from the new players in pubgames |
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Posted - 2013.10.27 00:50:00 -
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THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:Rinzler XVII wrote:THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:TBH 2 guys can pubstomp entire squads. Me n a corpmate did it just last night on an OMS, other side had a full proto squad, while me n my corpy went 26/3 nd 28/2 whilst all people below us went like 7/5 or so(for the rest of our squad) and blueberries going like 1/3 nd 0/9 nd ****. Yet we still win as a stomp because it was long bridge, funneling people so numbers matter less, whilst me n my squadmate are completely decimating their entire team by ourselves. Protos included.
Im just saying its hard as hell to do, but a single person can pull all the weight if conditions are right. I've heard the E=PEEN waving all before, you are wasting your time Yes yes you've done this and that when using this and that gear .. yadda yadda yadda .. so have I so has everyone else .. we aren't talking what can happen every now and again we are talking about what happens MOST of the time Wasn't talking to you, GTFO scrub. I was reaffirming OP telling to not give up because theres a damn decent chance he could have one of his best games ever if his team sucks.
Don;t butt into the middle of someone else's conversation and then claim you weren't talking to me .. no one was talking to you before you interjected your thoughts and therefore I am totally justified in telling you my thoughts
Logics a ***** aint it
You use proto constantly in pubgames .. we all know who the real scrub is xD |
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Posted - 2013.10.27 01:14:00 -
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howard sanchez wrote:Rinzler XVII wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Rinzler XVII wrote:[quote=Viktor Hadah Jr
Yes I am mad, you disgust me to the core
As I have so often seen scrubs like you say ... It's CCP's fault for not having the academy last longer if they haven't done anything about it then why shouldn't they do X / Y / Z .. sorry but if you can protostomp pubgames then blueberries can run around in FW ruining your games and contributing to you losing
If you really want to address the issue stop running proto in pubgames give the blueberries a chance and maybe they wont feel the need to try out FW to try and get away from it all ....
Every single counter or troll you have ever written in support of protostomping can be counter used and applied in response here so .... Fill in the gaps and the conclusion is HTFU So when the other team has 10 protosuit on there side you are saying i should run standard, when i have the ISK to wear protosuit and actually combat them to help out my team and try to push them back, no you are saying i should restrict myself to standard and just let myself get ass raped, by the 10 protosuits. I don't wear protosuit just when things are going good, i will wear protosuits even if i know i will lose 10-20 of them inorder to help out my team. Do i need to be a greedy cheap ass hole 24/7 and just think about myself and not the people i fight with in order to be a good person in your mind. You are already an ass hole 24/7 using protogear in pubgames so what difference does it make, you wont change your ways I'm just pointing out that you are a hypocrite I actually understand your point but you cannot ask for new players to not be allowed to take part in FW on one hand and then continue to use and defend the use of protogear on the other hand You either get onboard the fix matchmaking train or you stay on the leave it as it is platform you cant segregate new players away from FW for your benefit and not segregate the vets from the new players in pubgames Uh, everybody.this guy, right here, is like, supermad. Do not look at him. Just sayin
Did you know that when you were born the Doctor turned round and slapped your mother ?
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Posted - 2013.10.27 03:31:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Rinzler XVII wrote:
You are already an ass hole 24/7 using protogear in pubgames so what difference does it make, you wont change your ways I'm just pointing out that you are a hypocrite
I actually understand your point but you cannot ask for new players to not be allowed to take part in FW on one hand and then continue to use and defend the use of protogear on the other hand
You either get onboard the fix matchmaking train or you stay on the leave it as it is platform you cant segregate new players away from FW for your benefit and not segregate the vets from the new players in pubgames
No he is right mate, they need to stay out if they don't care, they make no difference, cost us the core and dedicated FW players matches, and glean no real benefit from FW when you compare it to Public Matches. I do not want to make FW more exclusive however I do want to make it more demanding and have real consequences. Fight for Amarr and you wont fight Gallente or Minmatar, fight for one of them and you wont fight for the other two factions. If you TK you get kicked with ever increasing bans on FW play time. Make FW what it was meant to be a play ground for the loyal and money grubbers. FW IS the step up from Pub matches, all newbie do is feed me kills and from watching them in action, lose us matches. It is not arrogance it is a truth, they cannot be trusted to hold even the most defensible of locations. This is also not a mind set reserved for L33t players niche gamers, in NEW EDEN no body with bother with you if you **** around, it is the same here as it is in EVE. You **** up listening to your FC and you will get chewed out later about it. **** up in matches in Dust you do and will get ridiculed for it.
Have you not read about the LP system for FW ? The fact that you don;t get ISK rewards in it either ? It's being fixed
I've made threads about ways to improve FW I wanted players to be forced into fighting on behalf of the initial race that they chose I mean seriously why would the Caldari hire a merc from Gallente to fight v Gallente ? It makes absolutely no sense to me anyways ..
My replies to the OP were about him being a hypocrite posting HTFU on protostomping in pubgame threads and then coming here complaining about something that he doesn't like
Supposedly FW changes are soon TM but i'd rather Pubgames were sorted out 1st ... CCP have neglected new players for too long I mean they have only just added a tutorial ffs so they need to make pubgames more fun for everyone before they sort out FW |
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Posted - 2013.10.27 21:28:00 -
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Lea Silencio wrote:Rinzler XVII wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Just played a match for Amarr with about 12 NPC corp guys on my side and lost. If you added up all the kills the other 15 guys on my team got then multiplied it by 3 i would still have the majority of the kills on our side.
These new guys out of FW should stay out really need to stay out of FW for a few weeks before they learn the gameplay. Why the hell should they ? You protostomp in pubgames saying I have it, its mine so ill use it as i please and then have the cheek to complain about new players not being very good in FW and telling them to play something else ? Seriously go f*** yourself ... your arrogance is disgusting so shove your egotistical self important nonsense where the sun doesn't shine you c*ckmunching pr*ck Let me tell you a little something about Viktor, smart guy.... He ONLY plays FW. If you read the description, it says FW is for "large squads or groups" and that public matches are for solo mercs or small squads. You can't blame him if 15 other random newberries say to themselves "hmmmm...well this looks good. I'll join this"! I guess if I see a newberry in FW, I'm supposed to stop and let him kill me to balance the scales? Pfft.
No because FW is a free for all it has an affect on the EVE universe and therefore anything goes from gear to the participation of new and experienced players alike .. PC is the game mode i'd accept a vets only tag but not FW
If pubgames were more balanced and matchmaking didn;t put 500k sp new academy graduates in against full squads of guys in full proto with 10m SP+ then maybe less new players would play FW but as it stands the reason why new players do FW is because they are trying to see if any of the other game modes offer something different to the usual stomping they get game after game
If matchmaking was fixed then you could justifiably say new players should stick to pubgames as it's more new player friendly but as it stands FW and Pubgames are one in the same
I'd like FW to be more serious but I'm not arrogant enough to tell players to stick to getting stomped in Pubgames so the vets can have fun in FW when you are the ones denying them the same fun in pubgames .. stop using your most expensive and prized gear in a gamemode which is meaningless to buff your own egotistical sense of importance and maybe new players will stay away from FW ...
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