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Patrick57
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
902
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Posted - 2013.10.26 13:32:00 -
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How the hell do you do so good??
You were expecting a QQ thread weren't you? :D
btw This is mostly aimed at people like Ancient Exiles and 0uter.Heaven. |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
1895
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Posted - 2013.10.26 13:34:00 -
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I don't. My proto"stomp" fit is a hacker. When it works, it's only needed for a few minutes. When it doesn't, I lose five or six of them |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1979
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Posted - 2013.10.26 13:37:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:How the hell do you do so good??
You were expecting a QQ thread weren't you? :D
btw This is mostly aimed at people like Ancient Exiles and 0uter.Heaven.
Actually, i was expecting another "Pubstompers are the best !!" thread / "Stroke my ego please !! i feel lonely"
And i have to say.. i'm not disappointed ... |
Meeko Fent
expert intervention Caldari State
1298
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Posted - 2013.10.26 14:25:00 -
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Don't look at me.
All I got is my proto Caldari CK med frame with a shot gun and racks of shield extenders.
But that's much too expensive for me pull out on a regular basis with all blueberries trying to help me.
Pulled it out maybe once in a FW match. That's it I think. |
calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
1152
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Posted - 2013.10.26 14:27:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Patrick57 wrote:How the hell do you do so good??
You were expecting a QQ thread weren't you? :D
btw This is mostly aimed at people like Ancient Exiles and 0uter.Heaven. Actually, i was expecting another "Pubstompers are the best !!" thread / "Stroke my ego please !! i feel lonely " And i have to say.. i'm not disappointed ...
their aren't any of these, usually it's "please stop using proto, I can't afford to use anything above advanced, but i'm so good that I could beat you if you played that way probably, maybe...please stop killing me."
add in a metric ton of swearing and insults, and you get the usual crap you see on this forum |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance
4243
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Posted - 2013.10.26 14:31:00 -
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It's not difficult to get high killcounts in proto if you know what you're doing. Most of it comes from controlling your playstyle - if you charge in blindly you will still die, proto or not, but if you're more careful you can decimate low tier suits all day. |
Aesiron Kor-Azor
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
437
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Posted - 2013.10.26 14:36:00 -
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I protostomp and get a K/D of 15+ using only meta 3 gear... it's all about strategy dude, the gear played a negligible role. |
Eldest Dragon
0uter.Heaven
180
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Posted - 2013.10.26 14:37:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:It's not difficult to get high killcounts in proto if you know what you're doing. Most of it comes from controlling your playstyle - if you charge in blindly you will still die, proto or not, but if you're more careful you can decimate low tier suits all day.
I actually can get high kill counts in adv gear, due to my one proto fitting called ( the core nade ), and my ar skills being maxed. Now running other basic stuff i'm not exp and skilled in is different, bc then like a lot of ppl, I get my a** handed to me still. Ofc who doesn't in a scout suit lol. |
Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
380
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Posted - 2013.10.26 14:41:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:How the hell do you do so good??
You were expecting a QQ thread weren't you? :D
btw This is mostly aimed at people like Ancient Exiles and 0uter.Heaven. Most of them aren't. I eat proto suits for breakfast with my EX0-5 (proficiency V) and a complex damage mod. |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance
4245
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Posted - 2013.10.26 14:50:00 -
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Eldest Dragon wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:It's not difficult to get high killcounts in proto if you know what you're doing. Most of it comes from controlling your playstyle - if you charge in blindly you will still die, proto or not, but if you're more careful you can decimate low tier suits all day. I actually can get high kill counts in adv gear, due to my one proto fitting called ( the core nade ), and my ar skills being maxed. Now running other basic stuff i'm not exp and skilled in is different, bc then like a lot of ppl, I get my a** handed to me still. Ofc who doesn't in a scout suit lol.
Yeah. Those Core locus grenades, man... |
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
382
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Posted - 2013.10.26 14:54:00 -
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Eldest Dragon wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:It's not difficult to get high killcounts in proto if you know what you're doing. Most of it comes from controlling your playstyle - if you charge in blindly you will still die, proto or not, but if you're more careful you can decimate low tier suits all day. I actually can get high kill counts in adv gear, due to my one proto fitting called ( the core nade ), and my ar skills being maxed. Now running other basic stuff i'm not exp and skilled in is different, bc then like a lot of ppl, I get my a** handed to me still. Ofc who doesn't in a scout suit lol. I'm sure you can get kills with your Core locus grenades Eldest.
An least, until I shoot you in the face with a railgun like last time |
CrotchGrab 360
Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
357
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Posted - 2013.10.26 14:56:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:How the hell do you do so good??
You were expecting a QQ thread weren't you? :D
btw This is mostly aimed at people like Ancient Exiles and 0uter.Heaven.
relative HP + relative damage output.
It's simple maths really,
if you have X amount of hp and I have Y amount of HP but yours is Yx3 then you're going to win unless you're damaged to the point where we are equal on HP then damage output factors in and you probably still win.
If I output 10 damage but you output 20 damage (i.e proficiency and/or damage mods) then you will win. 50% more often than I will.
There's nothing "good" about having an extreme amount of HP
f.ex MLT starter fit with 300~HP VS tanked out logi with 1100+HP is almost always going to lose purely based on HP
It's just maths, it's not skill. Imagine Goldeneye on N64 or Quake, imagine playing multiplayer with your friends on the couch, you all have 100hp yet one guy is running around with 300hp, moves faster and does more damage. who will win?
And is that even fair? I've never known a game like it. |
Funkmaster Whale
0uter.Heaven
991
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Posted - 2013.10.26 14:57:00 -
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I've resorted to playing solo and helping random squads. Don't really squad with my corp anymore. It's way too easy and there's never enough targets to kill when there's 6 good players running around hungry for red dots like some sort of duck hunt. |
CrotchGrab 360
Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
357
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Posted - 2013.10.26 14:58:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Patrick57 wrote:How the hell do you do so good??
You were expecting a QQ thread weren't you? :D
btw This is mostly aimed at people like Ancient Exiles and 0uter.Heaven. Most of them aren't. I eat proto suits for breakfast with my EX0-5 (proficiency V) and a complex damage mod.
LOL, trying to say somebody has no skill then admitting to using explosives.
LOL. |
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1604
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Posted - 2013.10.26 16:56:00 -
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It's less about the suit and more about tactics and teamwork, no suit survives 6 guys all shooting at it. |
Eversor Beercase
Beer For Evil Mercs
66
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Posted - 2013.10.26 17:18:00 -
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Protos bow to the might of the Plasma Cannon like everyone else. It's like dividing by zero according to CrotchGrab 360's math when you get a direct hit. |
MassiveNine
0uter.Heaven
329
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Posted - 2013.10.26 21:44:00 -
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Like sinboto said, but to elaborate.
Situational awareness is everything. You will see one tactic occur every time you fight against a good player, no matter who the player is. What is that you might ask? Hiding. Sounds like a beyotch move but you don't see our armed forces standing out in the middle of the field like this is the damn civil war or something lining up to be shot. I keep a close eye on my ammo count and health, and when I'm low on either I stick to cover until one is replenished at the very least. Do it, your KD will skyrocket and you'll be begging me for some hookers and blow but I dont touch that stuff no more man why you bugging me about it? |
General John Ripper
MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN.
3910
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Posted - 2013.10.26 21:45:00 -
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please don't |
KING CHECKMATE
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
2089
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Posted - 2013.10.26 21:52:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:How the hell do you do so good??
You were expecting a QQ thread weren't you? :D
btw This is mostly aimed at people like Ancient Exiles and 0uter.Heaven.
I find it funny, yesterday i was playing with a guy that always gives me a hard time, This Boba - Fett dude from SVER TB.
I always find him around in pub matches...
I was running around with my dragonfly scout and breach shotgun and everytime i saw him i shot him first , sometimes even twice and he would just turn around and 1 HKO my butt. (he was running a CRG-3 i believe) Then i got mad and took out my 420HP Proto Minscout and went for him with my ADV BReach shotgun.Shot him once he turned around , 1 HKO'd my butt. In an attempt to understand why i would always shoot first and never kill him i sneaked behind him (I run Dampners and A.Scanners on my scout suits so its not that hard), And he was running 1100 HP Cal Logi with CRG-3 in a pub match. Of course i could say hes beast good, but i think if he wasnt using that massive HP wall he would have died, EVERY single time i got behind him and shot first.
Point being , these guys HAVE THE RIGHT to use their proto gear. I must have died 8-9 times that match but my fittings cost 10k.He died once and im pretty sure it cost him over 100k XD So well.The real problem is these guys facing newberries,we experienced players can deal with it. |
Thurak1
Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
344
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Posted - 2013.10.26 22:10:00 -
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Myself i never really cared about my k/d ratio so pubstoms don't really matter. My favorite suite right now costs under 5k so i just love killing proto suits. As long as i dont die more than like 20 times in a match i am going to make some isk. |
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THEAMAZING POTHEAD
Nyain San Proficiency V.
472
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Posted - 2013.10.26 22:31:00 -
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Use scanners to determine lethal situations and situations meaning easy kills. Also use reliable weapons to kill enemies, the AR may have high DPS, but killing a proto strafer will sometimes be impossible because of garbage hit detection determining you were 1 millionth of a degree off his body every shot while he decimates you. A weapon like the MD alleviates this issue with highly consistent hits. Grenades, especially cores, do the same. For instance, even with my team of randoms against my own nyain squad stomping us, i can get a high KDR by riding around in a charybdis and using a freedom MD with prof 5 & 5 complex damage mods, parking next to people alone or weak, killing them, then driving away before the team can retaliate, i use scanners as well by parking a decent distance away, using the car as cover & scanning so i dont have to worry about hidden threats as i pop in n out to get kills. |
General John Ripper
MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN.
3919
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Posted - 2013.10.26 22:33:00 -
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THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:Use scanners to determine lethal situations and situations meaning easy kills. Also use reliable weapons to kill enemies, the AR may have high DPS, but killing a proto strafer will sometimes be impossible because of garbage hit detection determining you were 1 millionth of a degree off his body every shot while he decimates you. A weapon like the MD alleviates this issue with highly consistent hits. Grenades, especially cores, do the same. For instance, even with my team of randoms against my own nyain squad stomping us, i can get a high KDR by riding around in a charybdis and using a freedom MD with prof 5 & 5 complex damage mods, parking next to people alone or weak, killing them, then driving away before the team can retaliate, i use scanners as well by parking a decent distance away, using the car as cover & scanning so i dont have to worry about hidden threats as i pop in n out to get kills. please don't |
Yelhsa Jin-Mao
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
62
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Posted - 2013.10.26 22:59:00 -
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Just went 20-2-2 on factional warfare playing on my own, 1830, second highest on my team was 1225, top enemy went 735. Oh and did I mention, I only used BPOs, no proto for me. |
Racro 01 Arifistan
501st Knights of Leanbox
59
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Posted - 2013.10.26 23:02:00 -
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i see proto stomp i drop either my madrugar with all high end modules rounding to roughly 1.5mill or for ***** i rip out my vayu worht 2.5mill and watch thier proto gear burn against my scatered ion cannon on the vayu. or my standard ion cannon on the madrugar. |
DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles
2220
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Posted - 2013.10.26 23:03:00 -
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We use mlt gear cuz we don't have enough sp for proto. |
XxWarlordxX97
Ancient Exiles
4921
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Posted - 2013.10.26 23:09:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:How the hell do you do so good??
You were expecting a QQ thread weren't you? :D
btw This is mostly aimed at people like Ancient Exiles and 0uter.Heaven.
Its not my fault |
XxWarlordxX97
Ancient Exiles
4921
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Posted - 2013.10.26 23:10:00 -
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Racro 01 Arifistan wrote:i see proto stomp i drop either my madrugar with all high end modules rounding to roughly 1.5mill or for ***** i rip out my vayu worht 2.5mill and watch thier proto gear burn against my scatered ion cannon on the vayu. or my standard ion cannon on the madrugar.
Then boom,Its better in game |
Tectonic Fusion
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
428
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Posted - 2013.10.26 23:12:00 -
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Well, I'll tell you a little secret. Scrambler Rifle + SMG or just an AR and a Scrambler Pistol for a secondary. Pretty basic stuff. People usually just suck or I flank them. |
XxWarlordxX97
Ancient Exiles
4922
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Posted - 2013.10.26 23:28:00 -
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Tectonic Fusion wrote:Well, I'll tell you a little secret. Scrambler Rifle + SMG or just an AR and a Scrambler Pistol for a secondary. Pretty basic stuff. People usually just suck or I flank them.
Forge on a roof = a fun time |
CrotchGrab 360
Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
364
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Posted - 2013.10.27 09:15:00 -
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Eversor Beercase wrote:Protos bow to the might of the Plasma Cannon like everyone else. It's like dividing by zero according to CrotchGrab 360's math when you get a direct hit.
PLCs and FGs don't even come into my maths. They blow everything out of proportion. I will need several more years to hone my skills first........ |
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