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Glubba Qu'leth
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.10.25 21:00:00 -
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I seriously wonder how long dust will last if CCP keeps losing cash players? With all the imbalances, bugs, exploits, and out right "cheats", what's left to keep new players around. My proto heavy has been reduced to nothing more than a joke. Even militia gear cuts through my armor in a second and there is no way to fight back. Heavies are still too slow, our guns now over heat like crazy, take for ever and a day to reload, need time to spin up to get a good grouping for our bullets, have to aim with a circle big enough to drive a mack truck through, and in the end, still out classed and out distanced by assault rifles which have scopes and reload in mere seconds. In reality assault logis are the real battle field heavies. All their module slots compared to my sentinel's one high slot ( not to mention their equip slots too.) makes for a serious imbalance. Ever notice that even though there are heavies still around, most are not using mini guns any more?
Okay, now for new characters. Started a new build and I can't survive with him no matter what I try. Played half a day and earned next to nothing in SP since every single match wound up getting red lined within 60 seconds. Last match had a guy running around our ground spawn, deep in the red line, spawn killing us. After my third death, he was still there. Do the math.
So CCP, please explain to me where the fun is in blowing ISK on suits that serve nothing more than for spawn targets??
I hear players new and old gripe like crazy on mic, all saying the same things. I watched them leave the game, which is what I am about to do.
Fix the bugs and glitches. End the Imbalances. Stop the Hacks. |
Syeven Reed
RETR0 PR0 GAMERS
96
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Posted - 2013.10.25 21:43:00 -
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Can I... hold onto your stuff? Keep it warm for you!
EDIT: On a side note, your in Hellstorm! They have some half decent players hidden beneath that pile of blues. Squad up with em! |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
4742
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Posted - 2013.10.25 23:01:00 -
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Yes, there are bugs and glitches. Yes, there are imbalances. No, there are no hacks. Hacking the game means hacking the server which means CCP's security team will shut down the server and then there is jail time for the perps if they get caught. |
Alam Storm
Neo Terra Imperial Army Neo Terra Empire
13
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Posted - 2013.10.25 23:10:00 -
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i wish people would stop blaming the assault rifles there's nothing wrong with them its the damage mods that are to blame 3 complex damage mods together do 24% more damage plus the teched up do up to 49% damage get rid of the mods or at least Nerf them to do less damage and it will defo help with balance you want to blame a weapon blame the lasers they can be used like snipers eat people in seconds from across a map and thanks to the bug on them they eat armor before shields go down |
Alam Storm
Neo Terra Imperial Army Neo Terra Empire
13
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Posted - 2013.10.25 23:10:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Yes, there are bugs and glitches. Yes, there are imbalances. No, there are no hacks. Hacking the game means hacking the server which means CCP's security team will shut down the server and then there is jail time for the perps if they get caught.
people use lag switches which is a form of cheating |
General Erick
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
162
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Posted - 2013.10.25 23:17:00 -
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Can I have your ISK please? |
Seymor Krelborn
DUST University Ivy League
1014
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Posted - 2013.10.25 23:20:00 -
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I see a lot of heavies with HMGs...
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Cosgar
ParagonX
6481
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Posted - 2013.10.25 23:23:00 -
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Alam Storm wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Yes, there are bugs and glitches. Yes, there are imbalances. No, there are no hacks. Hacking the game means hacking the server which means CCP's security team will shut down the server and then there is jail time for the perps if they get caught. people use lag switches which is a form of cheating You can't lag switch on a dedicated server. |
KalOfTheRathi
Nec Tributis
846
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Posted - 2013.10.26 00:02:00 -
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Glubba Qu'leth wrote: -- snip buckets of QQ, not epic though -- Stop the Hacks. Doesn't sound like you have any stuff worth having so you can leave it to some other Merc.
What hacks? You never expanded on your final QQ. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
4743
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Posted - 2013.10.26 01:46:00 -
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Alam Storm wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Yes, there are bugs and glitches. Yes, there are imbalances. No, there are no hacks. Hacking the game means hacking the server which means CCP's security team will shut down the server and then there is jail time for the perps if they get caught. people use lag switches which is a form of cheating
Lag switching doesn't work properly in DUST due to nature of the server. Unlike lag switching in games like halo. |
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Aviles
Novashift
4
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Posted - 2013.10.26 02:26:00 -
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I've been seeing allot of posts like the lately of people leaving because of this and that. In the end its there decision. I recently stopped playing a MMORPG I played for over 3 years because I felt the game became more work and less fun. Basically I think that's what it comes down to. If your playing a game and not having fun, then why play it? So people leave. This game has allot of potential and is going places, but people are obviously mad and not wanting to wait anymore for things to get better. |
Glubba Qu'leth
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.10.26 03:18:00 -
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Interesting.....
Well simply put I'm recovering from a heart attack which left me unable to work and at home all day with nothing to do. Yes I do team up with Hellstorm when possible but most of the day they are not online leaving me with random blueberries. Even at that, no player should have to put up with hours of being red lined. There is no fun in being slaughtered time and time again which is something CCP desperately needs to address if it wishes to gain new players and have dust survive. The frustration I feel is shared by many. Leaving Dust is also a health consideration for myself in regards to my heart. Too much stress and not enough fun.
Ah so much concern for my belongings. Well no worries folks my friend has been taken very good care of
As for mini guns, yes they are still around but you see just as many if not more heavies using light weapons in place of heavy ones which shows something is seriously wrong. Sniper rifles and assault rifles are most common but I've seen laser rifles and even shot guns.
The heavy with mini gun is supposed to be the premier anti infantry build, but in the end both are an epic fail. The mini gun has no range, it over heats, takes a year to reload, has such a large dispersal on it's bullets that it's outclassed by most light weapons, and it has a huge aiming circle better served in a circus rather than iron sights.
I think assault rifles and damage mods both should be slagged. Getting red lined over and over, all thanks to proto rifles, damage mods, and that dumb aim assist.
As for hacking I'm getting real tired of people saying it doesn't exist. Lag switching is out there. See it all the time. Start shooting some guy and bam, he's lag bouncing all over. Even seen a tank do it yesterday. Got it close to death and bam! Instant lag which magically stopped once his rippers did their work. No lag switching.... Yeah right buddy.
I watched guys in pub and pc matches run around behind the red line with impunity. No 20 second limit for them..... hmmm..
I've seen ARS & Mass Drivers fire off rounds faster than they should. I've used those weapons, I know. I've listened to fellow squad members say the same thing.
I've run with experienced proto squads, and we know when funky stuff is going down. We enter a map, game freezes for a moment and we head for town and bam! Reds on every roof. No drop ships called in and yet some how they magically made it up on them roof tops.
wow
Then there is my favorite. You case some guy around a corner and he disappears completely. No where to go, no where to hide. You look all over but no enemy arrow anywhere. So you turn to leave and he's instantly behind you shooting you in the back of the head. Poof!! Magically appears out of empty dead end hallway.
On the point of punishing hackers, not going to happen. Been playing for decades and it's always the same deal. Unless its something big like that denial of service attack, they don't chase hackers.
Why?
It takes time and money to track them. Internet laws differ from country to country, if they exist at all. Finally, most are minors which means you can't prosecute them to begin with.
So there we have it. Not like any of this matters since nobody from CCP will ever read it or do anything useful about it. Game just keeps getting worse and worse with every update.
I'm frustrated and tired of wasting time and AUR just to be used for target practice
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
33
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Posted - 2013.10.26 05:49:00 -
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Glubba Qu'leth wrote: I seriously wonder how long dust will last if CCP keeps losing cash players?
Okay, now for new characters. Started a new build and I can't survive with him no matter what I try. Played half a day and earned next to nothing in SP since every single match wound up getting red lined within 60 seconds. Last match had a guy running around our ground spawn, deep in the red line, spawn killing us. After my third death, he was still there. Do the math.
So CCP, please explain to me where the fun is in blowing ISK on suits that serve nothing more than for spawn targets??
I hear players new and old gripe like crazy on mic, all saying the same things. I watched them leave the game, which is what I am about to do.
Fix the bugs and glitches. End the Imbalances. Stop the Hacks.
That red line comment is classic. That $h1t made me fall out ( sorry ) , you know CCP doesn't care. They don't want you OR ME FOR THAT MATTER , they wan't the kids that get on the game and run around in circles , chucking grenades and shooting their team mates , if their not on the MCC or hiding in the hills. They want them to spend their parents money. YOU KNOW THIS !!!!! They don't want people who will give them opinions and being critical , voicing their understandings about what's wrong and needs to be fixed .... you know a REAL gamer. You see the post about problems but that doesn't stop you from receiving the NEW gear and battle packs , does it ??? Come on , just stop and don't leave. You already know , that they know you'll be back , that's why you don't get a reply whenever you voice your opinion about anything. |
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
33
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Posted - 2013.10.26 05:58:00 -
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Glubba Qu'leth wrote:Interesting..... Well simply put I'm recovering from a heart attack which left me unable to work and at home all day with nothing to do. Yes I do team up with Hellstorm when possible but most of the day they are not online leaving me with random blueberries. Even at that, no player should have to put up with hours of being red lined. There is no fun in being slaughtered time and time again which is something CCP desperately needs to address if it wishes to gain new players and have dust survive. The frustration I feel is shared by many. Leaving Dust is also a health consideration for myself in regards to my heart. Too much stress and not enough fun. Ah so much concern for my belongings. Well no worries folks my friend has been taken very good care of As for mini guns, yes they are still around but you see just as many if not more heavies using light weapons in place of heavy ones which shows something is seriously wrong. Sniper rifles and assault rifles are most common but I've seen laser rifles and even shot guns. The heavy with mini gun is supposed to be the premier anti infantry build, but in the end both are an epic fail. The mini gun has no range, it over heats, takes a year to reload, has such a large dispersal on it's bullets that it's outclassed by most light weapons, and it has a huge aiming circle better served in a circus rather than iron sights. I think assault rifles and damage mods both should be slagged. Getting red lined over and over, all thanks to proto rifles, damage mods, and that dumb aim assist. As for hacking I'm getting real tired of people saying it doesn't exist. Lag switching is out there. See it all the time. Start shooting some guy and bam, he's lag bouncing all over. Even seen a tank do it yesterday. Got it close to death and bam! Instant lag which magically stopped once his rippers did their work. No lag switching.... Yeah right buddy. I watched guys in pub and pc matches run around behind the red line with impunity. No 20 second limit for them..... hmmm.. I've seen ARS & Mass Drivers fire off rounds faster than they should. I've used those weapons, I know. I've listened to fellow squad members say the same thing. I've run with experienced proto squads, and we know when funky stuff is going down. We enter a map, game freezes for a moment and we head for town and bam! Reds on every roof. No drop ships called in and yet some how they magically made it up on them roof tops. wow Then there is my favorite. You case some guy around a corner and he disappears completely. No where to go, no where to hide. You look all over but no enemy arrow anywhere. So you turn to leave and he's instantly behind you shooting you in the back of the head. Poof!! Magically appears out of empty dead end hallway. On the point of punishing hackers, not going to happen. Been playing for decades and it's always the same deal. Unless its something big like that denial of service attack, they don't chase hackers. Why? It takes time and money to track them. Internet laws differ from country to country, if they exist at all. Finally, most are minors which means you can't prosecute them to begin with. So there we have it. Not like any of this matters since nobody from CCP will ever read it or do anything useful about it. Game just keeps getting worse and worse with every update. I'm frustrated and tired of wasting time and AUR just to be used for target practice
I'm at a lost for words because HE said IT ALL and was DAM RIGHT TOO !!! Thank you for your honesty , that's something that's rare now a days. |
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
33
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Posted - 2013.10.26 06:09:00 -
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Aviles wrote:I've been seeing allot of posts like the lately of people leaving because of this and that. This game has allot of potential and is going places, but people are obviously mad and not wanting to wait anymore for things to get better.
Ryan Leaf ( American football ) had potential , JaMarcus Russell ( same ) had potential , Tony Romo ( same ) had potential and a whole other cast of characters as well but POTENTIAL WITHOUT PROOF MEANS NOTHING !!!!!! Potential that's wasted is that if that potential is not harnessed and groomed as well as cultivated and maintained. Wasted if not acted upon. Yes it's going to be hear for a long time but with a high turnover rate , so is that quality??? To me QUALITY means more THAN POTENTIAL ANYDAY of the week !!!! |
LittleCuteBunny
Ancient Exiles
44
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Posted - 2013.10.26 06:14:00 -
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Glubba Qu'leth wrote: I seriously wonder how long dust will last if CCP keeps losing cash players? With all the imbalances, bugs, exploits, and out right "cheats", what's left to keep new players around. My proto heavy has been reduced to nothing more than a joke. Even militia gear cuts through my armor in a second and there is no way to fight back. Heavies are still too slow, our guns now over heat like crazy, take for ever and a day to reload, need time to spin up to get a good grouping for our bullets, have to aim with a circle big enough to drive a mack truck through, and in the end, still out classed and out distanced by assault rifles which have scopes and reload in mere seconds. In reality assault logis are the real battle field heavies. All their module slots compared to my sentinel's one high slot ( not to mention their equip slots too.) makes for a serious imbalance. Ever notice that even though there are heavies still around, most are not using mini guns any more?
Okay, now for new characters. Started a new build and I can't survive with him no matter what I try. Played half a day and earned next to nothing in SP since every single match wound up getting red lined within 60 seconds. Last match had a guy running around our ground spawn, deep in the red line, spawn killing us. After my third death, he was still there. Do the math.
So CCP, please explain to me where the fun is in blowing ISK on suits that serve nothing more than for spawn targets??
I hear players new and old gripe like crazy on mic, all saying the same things. I watched them leave the game, which is what I am about to do.
Fix the bugs and glitches. End the Imbalances. Stop the Hacks.
EVE will bail Dust for 10 years
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Aviles
Novashift
4
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Posted - 2013.10.26 06:14:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Aviles wrote:I've been seeing allot of posts like the lately of people leaving because of this and that. This game has allot of potential and is going places, but people are obviously mad and not wanting to wait anymore for things to get better. Ryan Leaf ( American football ) had potential , JaMarcus Russell ( same ) had potential , Tony Romo ( same ) had potential and a whole other cast of characters as well but POTENTIAL WITHOUT PROOF MEANS NOTHING !!!!!! Potential that's wasted is that if that potential is not harnessed and groomed as well as cultivated and maintained. Wasted if not acted upon. Yes it's going to be hear for a long time but with a high turnover rate , so is that quality??? To me QUALITY means more THAN POTENTIAL ANYDAY of the week !!!!
I think your missing my point. Regardless of what potential i think it has one fact it true. " I think that's what it comes down to. If your playing a game and not having fun, then why play it? "
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Talos Vagheitan
King Slayers
117
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Posted - 2013.10.26 06:34:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Yes, there are bugs and glitches. Yes, there are imbalances. No, there are no hacks. Hacking the game means hacking the server which means CCP's security team will shut down the server and then there is jail time for the perps if they get caught.
Sorry, but there would definitely be zero jail time for hacking a DUST server. Let's be realistic here. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
4751
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Posted - 2013.10.26 15:14:00 -
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@glubba
Do you know how a lag switch works exactly? As in step-by-step. Did you know that to lag switch you need control of the server (as in be it's host) which only CCP has? The tranquillity server, unlike the ones you see in halo, is one massive server that runs Eve Online and has the capability of deciding which information it receives as valid or invalid. It also validates data based on when and where it last saw you and what you were doing at that time. It then compares that to what your console tells it. If your console data is inconsistent with what the server has on you, then the server will reject your console data.
If there is intentional lag then it can only be through other means besides lag switching. People have reported seeing simple tricks like spamming equipment on the field or something as complex as cleverly using the different regions of that server and other things.
If you want to see real lag switching, go to halo or call of duty. I was recently playing all day over at halo on matchmaking and there was lag up the ass. I mean serious lag like you never seen before. It was ridiculous. The server kept switching hosts for at least five times per match. There was also constant rubber banding. Suddenly DUST feels like a mild case in comparison.
If lag switching is ever used then it becomes detrimental to the users. |
Glubba Qu'leth
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
2
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Posted - 2013.10.26 15:15:00 -
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Thanks Shinobi, glad to see someone was listening. I believe in being straight up and when you say something make it worth while.
Just to touch on one final point.... quality vs potential.
While potential is indeed an important factor, quality is critical. If game mechanics don't work or game play is just a never ending grind...... fun disappears and players leave the game. Potential is only valid when viewed from a place of comfort. If things are okay now, we can wait for better.
In regards of heavies things just keep getting worse with no hope of improvement. For us there is no more potential. Yes, restrictions were removed on spinning in place so we could now actually aim our guns. But what was our trade off? Over heating, armor that doesn't protect like it used to, and reduced armor movement penalties for everyone. So now everyone can armor up and still run circles around heavies. Heavy suits were designed to carry all that armor yet we move slower than other suits piled up with plating.
Yes I can replace armor plates with non restricting modules to increase my speed but what is the point to that ? My total defense lowers to levels equivalent to proto logi suits however my speed is not good enough to compete with them. In addition, the proto logi suit can have 5 high slots while my proto suit only has one. Oh and the fact that I don't even have any equipment slots. Being able to drop a healing nanohive would be nice.
Updates are supposed to offer potential. - They need new content while finishing, fixing, and improving current content.
Yes new content has come out but there is still so much to fix and finish. That which needs improving has recieved nerfing instead. The next update I've heard little about except that more content is being removed or nerfed yet again.
CCP seems to do more damage than anything else with it's updates. So final verdict, potential is dead while quality remains a zombie roaming across the battle field. |
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crispipin
The Vanguardians
31
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Posted - 2013.10.26 16:26:00 -
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There is no hacking in this game. Plus can I have your isk? |
Glubba Qu'leth
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
3
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Posted - 2013.10.27 00:36:00 -
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crispipin wrote:There is no hacking in this game. Plus can I have your isk?
Yes there is, I've seen it.
No you can't. Gave it to someone I actually know. |
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