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Aesiron Kor-Azor
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
436
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Posted - 2013.10.25 20:26:00 -
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Respecs for AUR!!!
CCP gets muni,
I get respecs!
everybody wins |
Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact
Cult of War
659
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Posted - 2013.10.25 20:27:00 -
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Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:Respecs for AUR!!!
CCP gets muni,
I get respecs!
everybody wins
And i have to deal with people using their respec to change to the new FOTM...
Somehow i am not liking this idea. |
Fire of Prometheus
DUST University
Ivy League
1241
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Posted - 2013.10.25 20:28:00 -
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Respec for AUR = p2w = FOTM spam |
Smooth Assassin
Stardust incorporation
257
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Posted - 2013.10.25 20:29:00 -
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What about people who haven't got aurum? not everybody wins. |
Aesiron Kor-Azor
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
436
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Posted - 2013.10.25 20:34:00 -
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Smooth Assassin wrote:What about people who haven't got aurum? not everybody wins.
oh woops i overlooked that |
Dunk Mujunk
RestlessSpirits
191
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Posted - 2013.10.25 20:40:00 -
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You know, i'm not totally against respecs, but for the months and months people have been crying for them (and that's just since I started playing), they could have made a new character and speced into what they wanted by now. So do people who want repecs just stop spending SP? Y'all know there is no cap on total SP right? If there is, the cap is however much SP it takes to skill into and max out everything.
I understand and accept that if they alter the skill tree, respecs in some form should be given to those effected by the change. If you want a respect simply for the sake of getting a respect, at what point do you stop spending your SP stupidly? And who else will join me in a good laugh once they have offered a last respect, and people start asking for them again? |
Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
4737
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Posted - 2013.10.25 20:42:00 -
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Dunk Mujunk wrote:And who else will join me in a good laugh once they have offered a last respect, and people start asking for them again?
o/ |
HYENAKILLER X
Da Short Buss
314
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Posted - 2013.10.25 20:43:00 -
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Respecs will be an incredible day for me.
But if that happens you people are f***ed. |
Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact
Cult of War
663
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Posted - 2013.10.25 20:45:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Dunk Mujunk wrote:And who else will join me in a good laugh once they have offered a last respect, and people start asking for them again? o/
It will happen no doubt respec requests will be here for ever. |
Sana Rayya
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
The Ascendancy
273
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Posted - 2013.10.25 20:46:00 -
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What's the current FOTM? I haven't been killed by any "new" dropsuit more than usual.
Or is it a FOTM weapon? ScR and Lasers seem to be making a comeback - are you referring to those?
How much SP does it take to get a weapon to proto again - 620k and change? How long does it take you to make that much?
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
4737
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Posted - 2013.10.25 20:46:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Dunk Mujunk wrote:And who else will join me in a good laugh once they have offered a last respect, and people start asking for them again? o/ It will happen no doubt respec requests will be here for ever.
Then join us in the eternal laughs.
The tears will be most fresh. |
Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact
Cult of War
664
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Posted - 2013.10.25 20:50:00 -
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Sana Rayya wrote:What's the current FOTM? I haven't been killed by any "new" dropsuit more than usual.
Or is it a FOTM weapon? ScR and Lasers seem to be making a comeback - are you referring to those?
How much SP does it take to get a weapon to proto again - 620k and change? How long does it take you to make that much?
Swarms for example are pretty OP against tanks(Or so i heard) now they are getting nerfed. Respec new FOTM or new AR.
And that "training into proto does not take long is a good point." Just train into your next proto suit instead of crying for a respec. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
4739
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Posted - 2013.10.25 20:51:00 -
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Sana Rayya wrote:What's the current FOTM? I haven't been killed by any "new" dropsuit more than usual.
Or is it a FOTM weapon? ScR and Lasers seem to be making a comeback - are you referring to those?
How much SP does it take to get a weapon to proto again - 620k and change? How long does it take you to make that much?
Assuming you hit the weekly active cap, have passive gain turned on, and NO boosters fitted...
About 171,000 passive SP gain per week.
190,000 active SP per weekly cap.
Total: 361,000 SP
About two weeks. |
Kahn Zo
Immortal Guides
21
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Posted - 2013.10.25 20:53:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Sana Rayya wrote:What's the current FOTM? I haven't been killed by any "new" dropsuit more than usual.
Or is it a FOTM weapon? ScR and Lasers seem to be making a comeback - are you referring to those?
How much SP does it take to get a weapon to proto again - 620k and change? How long does it take you to make that much?
Assuming you hit the weekly active cap, have passive gain turned on, and NO boosters fitted... About 171,000 passive SP gain per week. 190,000 active SP per weekly cap. Total: 361,000 SP About two weeks.
^ yup. that's me right there. |
HAICD
Dogs of War Gaming
DARKSTAR ARMY
53
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Posted - 2013.10.25 21:11:00 -
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How about a respec for 10% loss of total skill points or some set number of skill point loss. |
Buddha Brown
Factory Fresh
411
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Posted - 2013.10.25 21:13:00 -
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Got respec like everyone else, was so happy
Straightened out SP and solidified role, nothing left to play for
Abandoned |
Dunk Mujunk
RestlessSpirits
192
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Posted - 2013.10.25 21:20:00 -
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Ok, look, since so many people want respecs-
I was suppose to keep this on the down low, but I know a guy that can hook you up with respecs. Just send 10 million ISK to my character (Dunk Mujunk), then meet me at objective B on the Fracture Road map, and we will get you hooked up......... |
IMPAIRS YOUR ABILITY
Molon Labe.
RISE of LEGION
193
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Posted - 2013.10.25 21:20:00 -
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Everything about the idea makes sense and would help fight boredom at higher levels. The concern about FOTM is not valid, these FOTM issues are balance issues and that can still be used, made, and abused without the repsec. The only difference the respec makes is that it brings to light what these balance issues are sooner as they instantly become the next FOTM. If anything charging the playerbase $ to make these type of theorycrafting FOTM month choices would bring to light needed balance changes faster. There is no downside, if its offered as an option and for the next six months everyone pays cash to respec and the new out of balance FOTM is figured out each month and adjusted we would probably be in a better position than we are now. |
Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact
Cult of War
666
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Posted - 2013.10.25 21:25:00 -
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HAICD wrote:How about a respec for 10% loss of total skill points or some set number of skill point loss.
90% maybe 95% |
Stupid Blueberry
Butt Hurt Try Hards
66
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Posted - 2013.10.25 22:04:00 -
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 MFW most people using the FotM argument are avid FotM runners themselves. |
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Jaysyn Larrisen
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
158
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Posted - 2013.10.25 22:23:00 -
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I like the Aurum respec concept and I absolutely get the FOTM concerns.
Couple thoughts:
1) Offer respecs for Aurum (about 30-40K?) but have a 3 month cooldown timer. That way you can only respec every 90days.
2) Ref. the FOTM issues...there will always be this issue and it does self correct or draw attention from the Devs eventually. How many Core Flaylock guys are going 20 and 5 recently? Not many. Doesn't mean this isn't a valid concern, just one that the community and Devs actually know how to deal with. |
low genius
The Sound Of Freedom
Renegade Alliance
754
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Posted - 2013.10.25 22:38:00 -
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Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:Respecs for AUR!!!
CCP gets muni,
I get respecs!
everybody wins
I assure you that you'd kick yourself if such a situation were to arise.  |
Sana Rayya
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
The Ascendancy
276
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Posted - 2013.10.26 02:27:00 -
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Hm, I guess I'm in the minority then because with my boosters I can get around 850-1 mil SP per week (if I really grind it out). Made a mil last week. So yeah, looking forward to my second proto suit in two weeks ;) |
GET ATMESON
Dem Durrty Boyz
Public Disorder.
152
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Posted - 2013.10.26 02:32:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:Respec for AUR = p2w = FOTM spam
Not just AUR also ISK. With this idea it would speed up with "balancing". |
Kahn Zo
R 0 N 1 N
25
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Posted - 2013.10.26 03:26:00 -
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IMPAIRS YOUR ABILITY wrote:Everything about the idea makes sense and would help fight boredom at higher levels. The concern about FOTM is not valid, these FOTM issues are balance issues and that can still be used, made, and abused without the repsec. The only difference the respec makes is that it brings to light what these balance issues are sooner as they instantly become the next FOTM. If anything charging the playerbase $ to make these type of theorycrafting FOTM month choices would bring to light needed balance changes faster. There is no downside, if its offered as an option and for the next six months everyone pays cash to respec and the new out of balance FOTM is figured out each month and adjusted we would probably be in a better position than we are now.
^ This.
Pure and simple.
It's not rocket science.
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