With the new AV changes madrugars will dominate again. 175m Lock On Range and big reduced damage. Strike.

Sorry to my fellow shield tankers, that the forge isn't touched.

With the new AV changes madrugars will dominate again. 175m Lock On Range and big reduced damage. Strike.

Sorry to my fellow shield tankers, that the forge isn't touched.

CCP is redefining the role of vehicles away from constant menace to periodic battering rams.

The current role of constant semi-vulnerability but fast repairing has both sides frustrated. AV has a huge reach so vehicles constantly need a decent strength, but that typically isn't enough to sit and slug it out in any encounter.

In the rebalance vehicles will have a low passive survivability combined with a short period of active strength.

Having the two separate modes will allow CCP set two different levels of survivability. They can be vulnerable the majority of the time, having to either hide or be protected by other vehicles or infantry, but periodically be capable of going into domination mode where they can roll in and spearhead the taking of an objective.

That should make them much more interesting without giving us the return of Chromosome tanks.

CCP is redefining the role of vehicles away from constant menace to periodic battering rams.

The current role of constant semi-vulnerability but fast repairing has both sides frustrated. AV has a huge reach so vehicles constantly need a decent strength, but that typically isn't enough to sit and slug it out in any encounter.

In the rebalance vehicles will have a low passive survivability combined with a short period of active strength.

Having the two separate modes will allow CCP set two different levels of survivability. They can be vulnerable the majority of the time, having to either hide or be protected by other vehicles or infantry, but periodically be capable of going into domination mode where they can roll in and spearhead the taking of an objective.

That should make them much more interesting without giving us the return of Chromosome tanks.

CCP is redefining the role of vehicles away from constant menace to periodic battering rams.

The current role of constant semi-vulnerability but fast repairing has both sides frustrated. AV has a huge reach so vehicles constantly need a decent strength, but that typically isn't enough to sit and slug it out in any encounter.

In the rebalance vehicles will have a low passive survivability combined with a short period of active strength.

Having the two separate modes will allow CCP set two different levels of survivability. They can be vulnerable the majority of the time, having to either hide or be protected by other vehicles or infantry, but periodically be capable of going into domination mode where they can roll in and spearhead the taking of an objective.

That should make them much more interesting without giving us the return of Chromosome tanks.

Gonna play devil's advocate for a bit here with two points:

1. The armor rep bug is getting fixed with the vehicle rework

2. We have yet to see what CCP is doing to the forge gun

Armor rep bug won't even exist, armor rappers are passive in the change.

whats more likely to happen...

tanks get screwed over for the last time, almost all the pilots leave the game or respec out of tanks and vehicles all together, thus ending the time dust 514 is dust 514 and introducing call of duty 514.

I miss my Chromosome-era Madrugar.

Best blaster or rail, heavy efficient repper, 180mm poly, and 3 carapace hardeners.

Was also able to put 2 heavy shield transporters in the highs with few problems.

With the new AV changes madrugars will dominate again. 175m Lock On Range and big reduced damage. Strike.

Sorry to my fellow shield tankers, that the forge isn't touched.

175 m translates to no more invisible swarms (maybe, mostly)
and this damage reduce .. amazing

Gonna play devil's advocate for a bit here with two points:

1. The armor rep bug is getting fixed with the vehicle rework

2. We have yet to see what CCP is doing to the forge gun

Negative. Many tankers will cry after all these releases because they still won't have their god machine trolling the battlefield unhindered.

Tanks are being tweaked, AV is being tweaked with them.

Balance will attempt to be achieved (or so one can hope) between people just starting MLT tanks, to vets with properly fitted ones.

Hopefully it wont take 6 months of capping SP to properly defend against AV, as well as hopefully it's still a game of rock/paper/scissors, and a lone AVer can take out a tank that makes a mistake on their cooldowns or gets too cocky without an escape plan.

I see it as a day of reckoning for both styles of play.

Edit - lol at me typing "tweeked"

so... what? CCP completely failed to figure out the rending problem? sounds alot like what CCP did in eve with the targeting ranges. apprently long range targeting breaks stuff

After all those discussions about tanks and AV, i've found the solution:
Tanks are OP
AV is more OP than tanks

CCP is nerfing both of them.