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WUT ANG D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 35	Posted - 2013.10.25 11:04:00 - [1] - Quote I want my sp back.
Delta 749 Kestrel Reconnaissance 2223	Posted - 2013.10.25 11:06:00 - [2] - Quote Unfitted milita tanks have enough EHP to withstand a full clip from proto level swarms and keep on driving
Banning Hammer Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1943	Posted - 2013.10.25 11:07:00 - [3] - Quote I want a lot of SP back....AR SP so i can spec to the SCR, Swarm Launcher SP so i can spec to the Forge Gun.
Ryder Azorria Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 667	Posted - 2013.10.25 11:08:00 - [4] - Quote No. This is being released the same time as the vehicle changes - against current vehicles you'd have a point, but against the new designs they look like they'll work quite nicely.
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 744	Posted - 2013.10.25 11:08:00 - [5] - Quote it will take half a minute of shooting to kill a madrugar and that is assuming he actually bothers to stay there.
WUT ANG D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 35	Posted - 2013.10.25 11:10:00 - [6] - Quote OK 175 meters vs a scattered ion you try it.
Kasote Denzara A Vulture 490	Posted - 2013.10.25 11:13:00 - [7] - Quote I, for one, am not even specced into Swarm Launchers. Dat Forge Gun though, hnnng. That's a different story. Huehuehue.
Delta 749 Kestrel Reconnaissance 2223	Posted - 2013.10.25 11:14:00 - [8] - Quote WUT ANG wrote: OK 175 meters vs a scattered ion you try it. At that range you wont even be able to generate a lock on a vehicle
Delta 749 Kestrel Reconnaissance 2223	Posted - 2013.10.25 11:16:00 - [9] - Quote Kasote Denzara wrote: I, for one, am not even specced into Swarm Launchers. Dat Forge Gun though, hnnng. That's a different story. Huehuehue. They have their sights set on nerfing the forge as well, if it gets the same treatment as the swarm where an unfitted militia tank can withstand a full clip of proto forge fun it will be world of tanks here and not dust514
pegasis prime BIG BAD W0LVES 1190	Posted - 2013.10.25 11:16:00 - [10] - Quote Delta 749 wrote: Unfitted milita tanks have enough EHP to withstand a full clip from proto level swarms and keep on driving you are only looking at the new damage values they have yet to release the new clip size and or ammo capacity as well as the possibility of more missiles per volley than the current model. stop all your av whinging until the full stats are released , also I call bs on proto swarms being unable to take out an un fitted soma as they also mentiond changing the % of the effectiveness so just calm down.

Zelorian Dexter snr 8thDivision 69	Posted - 2013.10.25 11:18:00 - [11] - Quote Instead of QQing about SL changes I run proto myself let's wait and see how it stacks up against the new vehical stats. Plus I'm a front line logi and tend to engage tanks at less than 100m anyway.
Kasote Denzara A Vulture 491	Posted - 2013.10.25 11:18:00 - [12] - Quote Delta 749 wrote: They have their sights set on nerfing the forge as well, if it gets the same treatment as the swarm where an unfitted militia tank can withstand a full clip of proto forge fun it will be world of tanks here and not dust514 Yeah, I heard about it. They've been crying about the FG ever since people actually specced into it and mained it against vehicles. Nerf it they may, I'll be sure to use it anyways.
KalOfTheRathi Nec Tributis 846	Posted - 2013.10.25 11:21:00 - [13] - Quote Keeping SP is CCP's way of Ganking players. HTFU.
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 1075	Posted - 2013.10.25 11:22:00 - [14] - Quote I want my SL SP back, too. But that's been the case since the first time a DS outran my Swarm. Now, I see HAVs and LAVs outrunning missiles on a regular basis. Done. Forge Guns. And I dare that pilot to jump out. But, if we're in the land where getting SP back happens, then I'll also take mine back from Shotguns, Flaylocks, Scrambler Rifles, Sniper Rifles, Mass Drivers, and Lasers.
Judge Rhadamanthus Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 551	Posted - 2013.10.25 11:22:00 - [15] - Quote I want the 50 million ISK back your over powered and broken Swarm launcher cost me. I'm uploading a video now to show poorly skilled and cheap players like you OP why your weapon was broken and how the new range looks on a map. Plus why its a good range. SoonGäó this sentence will be a link to a video.
Beld Errmon The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 1050	Posted - 2013.10.25 11:24:00 - [16] - Quote QQ I won't be able to AV nade and 3 shot 2 mil isk tanks with my 70k AV suit anymore, woe is me how will I ever play the game now, my spiteful little crutch has been kicked out from under me kicks and screams on the floor crying like a toddler
pegasis prime BIG BAD W0LVES 1191	Posted - 2013.10.25 11:26:00 - [17] - Quote Beld Errmon wrote: QQ I won't be able to AV nade and 3 shot 2 mil isk tanks with my 70k AV suit anymore, woe is me how will I ever play the game now, my spiteful little crutch has been kicked out from under me kicks and screams on the floor crying like a toddler somebody buy this guy a beer.
Pent'noir Algintal Core Gallente Federation 160	Posted - 2013.10.25 11:28:00 - [18] - Quote When they get through with the changes, if you liked the swarm launcher better than the pc ang fg, then you will still probably like the swarms the best. Remember that the post said they will also be changing the forge. Although with the changes, the pc is looking a bit better as an option. My maxed swarm sp can stay were it is, i'll just start investing in the other options and test them out.
Delta 749 Kestrel Reconnaissance 2225	Posted - 2013.10.25 11:29:00 - [19] - Quote pegasis prime wrote: Delta 749 wrote: Unfitted milita tanks have enough EHP to withstand a full clip from proto level swarms and keep on driving you are only looking at the new damage values they have yet to release the new clip size and or ammo capacity as well as the possibility of more missiles per volley than the current model. stop all your av whinging until the full stats are released , also I call bs on proto swarms being unable to take out an un fitted soma as they also mentiond changing the % of the effectiveness so just calm down. And what makes you think anything else will be changed when they specifically say "Guys this is what we changed and are testing it" especially given their track record when it comes to testing things
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 909	Posted - 2013.10.25 11:35:00 - [20] - Quote pegasis prime wrote: Beld Errmon wrote: QQ I won't be able to AV nade and 3 shot 2 mil isk tanks with my 70k AV suit anymore, woe is me how will I ever play the game now, my spiteful little crutch has been kicked out from under me kicks and screams on the floor crying like a toddler somebody buy this guy a beer. Yes do.

Kasote Denzara A Vulture 492	Posted - 2013.10.25 11:40:00 - [21] - Quote You know, it's funny how people have cried over the AVs. I came from a match where I was in a Sica. Default. No skills. Nothing. It one-shotted everyone before they could even counter-attack. Something's fishy here... Oh. Never mind. Just people with the inability to properly AIM in something that literally rolls over all the infantry. FFS. I miss the 90s when people were competent at what they did.
Banning Hammer Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1943	Posted - 2013.10.25 11:46:00 - [22] - Quote Kasote Denzara wrote: You know, it's funny how people have cried over the AVs. I came from a match where I was in a Sica. Default. No skills. Nothing. It one-shotted everyone before they could even counter-attack. Something's fishy here... Oh. Never mind. Just people with the inability to properly AIM in something that literally rolls over all the infantry. FFS. I miss the 90s when people were competent at what they did. Well... that is how it works... i may spend some SP in HAV's and get them NERF to hell. You think the AR was bad ?.. you just wait......
Paran Tadec Ancient Exiles 1489	Posted - 2013.10.25 11:56:00 - [23] - Quote Want everyone crying a week ago about the new tanks being weak unless av was changed?
Kasote Denzara A Vulture 492	Posted - 2013.10.25 11:59:00 - [24] - Quote Banning Hammer wrote: Well... that is how it works... i may spend some SP in HAV's and get them NERF to hell. You think the AR was bad ?.. you just wait...... Not going to lie. I kind of want to lololol around with a blaster. Unfortunately, I don't have the SP to spare for easy mode.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 909	Posted - 2013.10.25 12:01:00 - [25] - Quote Its pretty obvious the swarm range has something to do with the rendering issue, I think it will be temporary but if your not using av nades to destroy a tank fully rather than just scare it then you are doing it wrong.
KGB Sleep Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 345	Posted - 2013.10.25 12:03:00 - [26] - Quote I want dumbfire missile option.
Justice Prevails Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 58	Posted - 2013.10.25 12:03:00 - [27] - Quote Don't think we're really going know until all the changes are in. But if it is bad for av then: This is all my fault guys. I specced into av last week. Guess i'm a jinx. Sorry.:-( And tankers, go **** yourselves! I'm still gonna kill all of you. (In the game):-)
Vyzion Eyri The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 1561	Posted - 2013.10.25 12:12:00 - [28] - Quote Why is everyone forgetting that vehicles are getting their offensive capabilities severely limited by the implementation of turret ammunition? Also, I noticed that many agree the main weakness of swarms is the pilot's ability to outrun the missiles. Yeah, well that ain't possible now because if you can get a lock on us you'll be so close we CAN'T outrun them. And 100% agree with Rhadamanthus: If you guys get your SP back I want my ISK back for all the dropships I lost. Oh and did I mention VEHICLE TURRET AMMUNITION? Damnit guys. All you have to do is camp the supply depots. **** me, it's so easy I'm crying for tankers right now. With the new 'waves of opportunity modules', if you see one rushing for the supply depot you can be damn sure their reppers and hardeners are down and they have no ammo to shoot you with. AND oh, oh, did I mention at such close range lock-on we can't outrun the missiles?
ILLUSIONxox RAINING HEAVY'S 16	Posted - 2013.10.25 12:20:00 - [29] - Quote Delta 749 wrote: Unfitted milita tanks have enough EHP to withstand a full clip from proto level swarms and keep on driving yep and thats a ****.ing problem , i see the swarm launcher taking a heavy fall in the Stock market aswell as the AV grenades its almost as if they dont want any automobiles to be destroyed .
Justice Prevails Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 58	Posted - 2013.10.25 12:21:00 - [30] - Quote Vyzion Eyri wrote: Why is everyone forgetting that vehicles are getting their offensive capabilities severely limited by the implementation of turret ammunition? Also, I noticed that many agree the main weakness of swarms is the pilot's ability to outrun the missiles. Yeah, well that ain't possible now because if you can get a lock on us you'll be so close we CAN'T outrun them. And 100% agree with Rhadamanthus: If you guys get your SP back I want my ISK back for all the dropships I lost. Oh and did I mention VEHICLE TURRET AMMUNITION? Damnit guys. All you have to do is camp the supply depots. **** me, it's so easy I'm crying for tankers right now. With the new 'waves of opportunity modules', if you see one rushing for the supply depot you can be damn sure their reppers and hardeners are down and they have no ammo to shoot you with. AND oh, oh, did I mention at such close range lock-on we can't outrun the missiles? The range doesn't bother me that much. I usually don't fire til I'm sure I'm gonna make contact. Dont want my missiles hitting hills or buildings. The closer you are, the less time pilot or tank has to react.



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