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Delta 749
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Posted - 2013.10.25 09:22:00 -
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The QQ over the rail rifle has already begun and people are freaking out so much
I guess they just dont want to see the Caldari have nice things at all
Oh and I like how the ARs range stats are almost exactly the same as they are right now meaning all the morons rejoicing will get killed all the same |
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Posted - 2013.10.25 09:33:00 -
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Kal Kronos wrote:People are still crying that they think its a nerf though, I love reading forum posts theyre so funny.
Ive only seen that one thread from Banning Hammer freaking out about the range non changes, who else doesnt know the numbers of a weapon they supposedly use all the time? |
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Posted - 2013.10.25 09:36:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Other 3 rifles out range the AR's optimal. Let that settle in for a second...
Youve consistently whined about the AR being an I win button
There are 3 rifles that can do more damage at a greater range
Let that sink in and I have the feeling you will come back crying about one of them in short order |
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Posted - 2013.10.25 09:38:00 -
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Chibi Andy wrote:im just QQ+¡ng because us heavies don't get anything nice and shiny to try out 
Yeah, you guys definitely need a heavy laser cannon or something since your options are pretty limited |
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Posted - 2013.10.25 09:41:00 -
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Chibi Andy wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Chibi Andy wrote:im just QQ+¡ng because us heavies don't get anything nice and shiny to try out Yeah, you guys definitely need a heavy laser cannon or something since your options are pretty limited very limited options, if i wanted to use the new rifles i'd have played as a logi, but i stuck with the heavies, so im limited to HMG and FG. too bad i can't use the HMG as a melee weapon as well 
Maybe you can tape some nova knives to the barrels so when its spinning you have a blender to use on guys |
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Posted - 2013.10.25 09:46:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Cosgar wrote:Other 3 rifles out range the AR's optimal. Let that settle in for a second... Youve consistently whined about the AR being an I win button There are 3 rifles that can do more damage at a greater range Let that sink in and I have the feeling you will come back crying about one of them in short order I get a burst rifle that actually isn't a piece of **** and with better range than the AR. I'm getting a better deal out of this.
I like the concept of the burst rifle but that pause is a killer on a moving target |
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Posted - 2013.10.25 09:48:00 -
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Chibi Andy wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Chibi Andy wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Chibi Andy wrote:im just QQ+¡ng because us heavies don't get anything nice and shiny to try out Yeah, you guys definitely need a heavy laser cannon or something since your options are pretty limited very limited options, if i wanted to use the new rifles i'd have played as a logi, but i stuck with the heavies, so im limited to HMG and FG. too bad i can't use the HMG as a melee weapon as well Maybe you can tape some nova knives to the barrels so when its spinning you have a blender to use on guys can i tape a nova knife to a FG round? so i shoot spiky FG rounds at the enemy? 
Lets just cut out the middle man and get guns that shoot knives |
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Posted - 2013.10.25 11:30:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:Delta 749 wrote:The QQ over the rail rifle has already begun and people are freaking out so much
I guess they just dont want to see the Caldari have nice things at all
Oh and I like how the ARs range stats are almost exactly the same as they are right now meaning all the morons rejoicing will get killed all the same hahahahahahahahahahahaha creating a called it QQ thread after QQ about swarm and av changes hhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.........................................hahahahahahahahahhahahahhahahahahahahahahaahahahahahhahhah..................................hahahahahahahahhahhahahahahahaaahahahahahhahhahahahh.
Hahahahahaha laughing about QQ after hes been QQing about tanks for the past 6 months
HHHAAAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAA |
Delta 749
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Posted - 2013.10.25 11:40:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:Delta 749 wrote:pegasis prime wrote:Delta 749 wrote:The QQ over the rail rifle has already begun and people are freaking out so much
I guess they just dont want to see the Caldari have nice things at all
Oh and I like how the ARs range stats are almost exactly the same as they are right now meaning all the morons rejoicing will get killed all the same hahahahahahahahahahahaha creating a called it QQ thread after QQ about swarm and av changes hhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.........................................hahahahahahahahahhahahahhahahahahahahahahaahahahahahhahhah..................................hahahahahahahahhahhahahahahahaaahahahahahhahhahahahh. Hahahahahaha laughing about QQ after hes been QQing about tanks for the past 6 months HHHAAAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAA sigh and facepalm . almost every one and their dead hamster exept special folks like you knows how up havs have been. your just upset because your win button has been removed . also im not the one who set up a thread about QQing after QQing myself .... stil laughing hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah..................................hahahahahahahahahahahhahahahaha
This is different from you crying for 6 entire months about HAVs how?
Oh wait, its one thread made during the same day the information was posted and not multiple threads for months and months because prototype gear could blow me up
Funny how you all cried about being under powered when only the most expensive SP intensive weapons could actually pose a threat when now those same weapons dont have enough damage in a clip to destroy a militia tank |
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Posted - 2013.10.25 11:40:00 -
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Vesago Ghostcore wrote:Ok its been months and I haven't had a clue... I will ask... what the hell does QQ stand for?
Crying, QQ is supposed to look like eyes with tears coming down |
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Posted - 2013.10.25 11:47:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Vesago Ghostcore wrote:Ok its been months and I haven't had a clue... I will ask... what the hell does QQ stand for? Crying, QQ is supposed to look like eyes with tears coming down actually your wrong thats just a coincidence it started in WoW its like a hotkey for quite game I think
Really now, Ive only ever seen it used in the context I describe and that was the explanation I was given when I asked
And know I know and knowing is half the battle, Yo Joe |
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Posted - 2013.10.25 11:50:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:
yet again ill say this they haven't released the full stats for the wepons and you are now grasping at straws . asol I have mentiond that havs are up and almost everyone knows it , blam f@#ked up vehicles that's why they fired him........ also I didn't swt up a thread about QQrs you did immediately after QQing your self.
Youve brought this up in other threads since you decided to follow me around the forums and youve dodged my retort to this a few times but Ill ask again
What makes you think anything else will change especially when you consider that when listing rifle stats they felt the need to only post what has changed for the scrambler and AR IE the ranges
Nothing in their post implies that any other stats on those guns or on the swarm launcher itself will be changed other than what they outlined
Are you going to actually reply or dodge this again like you have in two other threads
Inb4 you go on a tangent about how you didnt dodge ironically using that to dodge this yet again |
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Posted - 2013.10.25 11:51:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Vesago Ghostcore wrote:Ok its been months and I haven't had a clue... I will ask... what the hell does QQ stand for? Crying, QQ is supposed to look like eyes with tears coming down actually your wrong thats just a coincidence it started in WoW its like a hotkey for quite game I think Really now, Ive only ever seen it used in the context I describe and that was the explanation I was given when I asked And know I know and knowing is half the battle, Yo Joe Alot of people play WoW and alot of people leave WoW for better games slang just doesnt belong to one game anymore unless you know what shazbot means 
Heh that one I know, where it comes from and todays meaning |
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Posted - 2013.10.25 12:00:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:Delta 749 wrote:pegasis prime wrote:
yet again ill say this they haven't released the full stats for the wepons and you are now grasping at straws . asol I have mentiond that havs are up and almost everyone knows it , blam f@#ked up vehicles that's why they fired him........ also I didn't swt up a thread about QQrs you did immediately after QQing your self.
Youve brought this up in other threads since you decided to follow me around the forums and youve dodged my retort to this a few times but Ill ask again What makes you think anything else will change especially when you consider that when listing rifle stats they felt the need to only post what has changed for the scrambler and AR IE the ranges Nothing in their post implies that any other stats on those guns or on the swarm launcher itself will be changed other than what they outlined Are you going to actually reply or dodge this again like you have in two other threads Inb4 you go on a tangent about how you didnt dodge ironically using that to dodge this yet again sorry I thought id replied but my tablet is a bit glichy , ill counter your question with what makes you think they wont change the other stats apart dfrom damage and lockon time / range ? they haven't released the full set of stats and you are avoiding that point. Untill they do all you are doing is making up bs
Thats three times youve dodged that question and this time its by asking a question I have already answered in my previous post
You have nothing to say and are being contrary for the sake of being contrary it seems, if this wasnt the case I believe you would have replied with something of substance instead of "herp derp stat changes" when CCPs past behavior in posting things things paints a clear pattern, if its not going to be changed it isnt mentioned
When you have legs to stand on try again, until then keep all your BS in one thread instead of following me around the boards like some thirsty broad trying to get her hands on my **** |
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Posted - 2013.10.25 12:04:00 -
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Beren Hurin wrote:1) We don't know if there will be significant dispersion.
2) We don't know if it will have some kind of overheat (unlikely).
3) Fitting is fairly high.
4) You can't feather the sight and get close to the same DPS like AR due to charge up time.
5) Lower RoF means that when you miss, you miss HARD.
All reasonable points but sadly all points people are ignoring in the weapon stat thread in favor of "OMG it has all this range and damage its already op"
It is going to be an excellent weapon for digging in and defending though and I imagine halfway decent for taking out snipers that get careless |
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Posted - 2013.10.25 12:12:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:Delta 749 wrote:pegasis prime wrote:Delta 749 wrote:pegasis prime wrote:
yet again ill say this they haven't released the full stats for the wepons and you are now grasping at straws . asol I have mentiond that havs are up and almost everyone knows it , blam f@#ked up vehicles that's why they fired him........ also I didn't swt up a thread about QQrs you did immediately after QQing your self.
Youve brought this up in other threads since you decided to follow me around the forums and youve dodged my retort to this a few times but Ill ask again What makes you think anything else will change especially when you consider that when listing rifle stats they felt the need to only post what has changed for the scrambler and AR IE the ranges Nothing in their post implies that any other stats on those guns or on the swarm launcher itself will be changed other than what they outlined Are you going to actually reply or dodge this again like you have in two other threads Inb4 you go on a tangent about how you didnt dodge ironically using that to dodge this yet again sorry I thought id replied but my tablet is a bit glichy , ill counter your question with what makes you think they wont change the other stats apart dfrom damage and lockon time / range ? they haven't released the full set of stats and you are avoiding that point. Untill they do all you are doing is making up bs Thats three times youve dodged that question and this time its by asking a question I have already answered in my previous post You have nothing to say and are being contrary for the sake of being contrary it seems, if this wasnt the case I believe you would have replied with something of substance instead of "herp derp stat changes" when CCPs past behavior in posting things things paints a clear pattern, if its not going to be changed it isnt mentioned When you have legs to stand on try again, until then keep all your BS in one thread instead of following me around the boards like some thirsty broad trying to get her hands on my **** sigh yet again you dodge what I ask , they haven't released a sheet to state either of our points if you can call them that , and ill say it again unless you have a full spread sheet of all the new stats not just damage and lock on we are both just speculating . We need full disclosure of all the changes to come like they did with the vehicles and the new rifles along side old values just like the hav sheet on the first page of the vehicle changes , they will release full stats before launch and when they do proper conclusions can be made but until then its all just bs speculation on both our parts . I would say im done with arguing but I acctually enjoy a debate you on the other hand just want to cry away
Now you are just attempting to badly parrot back what I have said to you and your "point" still has nothing to back it up since the precedent CCP has set goes against what you claim, consider all the ninja tweaks that happen with nothing posted
Hell remember how much tweaking AA needed when it was released with nothing said but "we are working on it" and some people are still so in the dark about it they are convinced its full tracking with no input needed by the player
So you saying over and over in multiple threads "Wait til the full stats come" is not a counter argument in the slightest, its you flogging a dead horse since you cant come up with anything else to say |
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Posted - 2013.10.25 12:14:00 -
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ILLUSIONxox wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Kal Kronos wrote:People are still crying that they think its a nerf though, I love reading forum posts theyre so funny. Ive only seen that one thread from Banning Hammer freaking out about the range non changes, who else doesnt know the numbers of a weapon they supposedly use all the time? me i dont know the numbers of any of these weapons all i know is that they robb and do the heavies ****.ing worng but im glad to read from you guys that the ar range is alittle less it should have gotten the Same reduce to range and damge liek the swarm launcher got.
Man I hate to be the one telling you this but the AR optimal range is getting increased by 2 meters, its not getting decreased at all
I believe someone posted a chart detailing the current rifle ranges in the new weapon stat thread but I could be wrong and it could be in another thread, I just now that I have seen it tonight |
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Posted - 2013.10.25 12:24:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote: delta wow when I provide a little shread of evidence to the contrary to what you say and you ignore it wow
look on the vehicle changes thread and the one blam released before he was fired they released full values old and new and compaird them . the point I have been making is you are just speculating without a full set of values something they do release and have done before launch, but yea I have no point because they didn't release new and old stats for vehicles on both occasions when changes were made .... or did they . what makes you think they wont do the same for swarms and forges ???????? you are avoiding that question
I didnt ignore that at all, in fact I already made counter argument to that bringing up examples of the various times that they did NOT list changes before they made them and your only response to what I said was to keep beating the same dead horse and bring out the same tired excuse even after I pointed out thats what you have been doing
This is like watching a child run into a brick wall convinced that if he keeps doing the same thing he will get results, it just fills me with a deep sense of pity for you |
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Posted - 2013.10.25 12:38:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:so delta they haven't released the proposed changes to the vehicles and compaired them with the current model ???? look in the vehicle changes part 2 its on the first page . they also didn't releast the changes before they launched when they "fixed " vehicles last time ?? they also didn't compare them to older stats ........ as you see I did present evedense stating that they did release the stats before launch you are now really just pulling straws bud ...
You provided evidence of two instances
I can talk about them providing no evidence of what changes they made to auto aiming, matchmaking, battle academy changes until the day it happens, and a plethora of other things
Their track record for a long time has been to just change stuff with no warning and while strides are being made against that it still happens more often than not
Anyway you should read up on irony because you saying one thing over and over using one example in multiple threads when I have brought up several different counter examples is the definition of grasping at straws
Also most browsers have spell check built in to them and I suggest you use them, Im not a grammar **** but seeing you mangle simple words such as "Evidence" is just painful and if you cant even write up your argument properly how can you be expected to be taken seriously |
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