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Posted - 2013.10.25 03:46:00 -
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I started speccing into Profile dampeners, since im so fed up with Active scanners leading to gang r4pes ....
So i have something that might be considered noobish:
''Do profile dampeners HAVE stacking penalties?''
I noticed the Description does NOT say anything about this and i wanted to know if CCP just trolled me AGAIN with the descriptions, or Profile dampeners are atually decent and not trash.
TY |
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Posted - 2013.10.25 04:03:00 -
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WOW ,nobody knows? |
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Posted - 2013.10.25 04:11:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Yes, there is a stacking penalty. The description doesn't mention it, but it exists. Do keep in mind though that the stacking penalty only applies to the modules. So don't apply any penalty to bonus from the scout suit, the bonus from the actual dampening skill, or the first module. Penalties start with the second modules.
1-So overall, Profile dampeners are STill crap. 2-Guessit was not THAT much of a noobish question 3-CCP , you LIED to me again.You did't tell me they had stacking penalties and sold them to me like a fresh sandwich from Subways when it was a week old mcdonalds burger. I WANT A SKILL RESPEC |
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Posted - 2013.10.25 04:17:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Something that is pretty nice it. Profile damps lvl 5 = standard active scanner can not find your logi or assault suit, no modules needed.
Nobody uses those crappy Active scanners unless they are INSANE.
Only ADV QUANTUM or higher.
so still pretty useless bro. |
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Posted - 2013.10.25 04:23:00 -
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Thor Thunder Fist wrote:oh hi your the noob I've seen around the forum a lot latly please stop all the hissy fits it's getting annoying.
Oh hi, who are you and why should i care.
BTW BHD was better in MAG than what it is now,i know its not saying much but well... |
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Posted - 2013.10.25 04:32:00 -
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Thor Thunder Fist wrote:me I'm nobody just a lurker who is tired of seeing you complain and try and wreak the game have a nice day :D thanks for insulting my corp I didn't know them back in mag but I'll be sure to tell them that they suck now and that they were never any good thank you very much for pointing it out to me.
you are welcome, i know you need help. Have a nice day.
BTW , you cant do anything about me complaining so suck it up. |
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Posted - 2013.10.25 04:41:00 -
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Thor Thunder Fist wrote:of course I can do something I can ask you to stop. that doesn't mean you will stop but I've still done something about it. by the way the whole bolding of sentences is getting old too.
Your opinion is meaningless to me, and if you think that i will take orders from a stranger over the internet you are dummer than i thought... |
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Posted - 2013.10.25 04:46:00 -
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Thor Thunder Fist wrote:orders who is giving orders? I'm asking not telling telling would be foolish as there would be no way for me to enforce it. asking on the other hand is compleatly different and entirely feasible that someone would listen to a request from a stranger over the internet. please get your words right.
Sorry i forgot people think everybody needs to be 100% accurate English speaker, even if its not their native language. Please, forgive my lack of precision while writing, but you still get what im saying neverthe less. So please stop Trying to troll me, you will fail. |
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Posted - 2013.10.25 04:49:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:I started speccing into Profile dampeners, since im so fed up with Active scanners leading to gang r4pes ....
So i have something that might be considered noobish:
''Do profile dampeners HAVE stacking penalties?''
I noticed the Description does NOT say anything about this and i wanted to know if CCP just trolled me AGAIN with the descriptions, or Profile dampeners are atually decent and not trash.
TY No they don't
Im sorry Sarge, i want to believe you; but there are several opinions here. Can you please confirm this? if you please? |
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Posted - 2013.10.25 04:53:00 -
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Thor Thunder Fist wrote:trolling you oh you think your important enough for me to troll, cute, I ask only for you to stop trying to speak your idiotic ideals as there are some easily influenced people out there who might actually listen to you. have a good night.
Have a good nite.Trollytroll :3
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Posted - 2013.10.26 21:31:00 -
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Maken Tosch and Sgt kirk say they dont have stacking penalties.Which i have tested and confirmed. It seems that they dont suffer from stacking penalties and the passive bonus is fully added too... Im using a basic pro.dampener and an enhanced Pro.dampener on a logi.I have passive dampening lv 3.
Thats 15+20+6 = 41 Logi scan profile = 50 50 / 1.41 = 35 scan profile.
I am effectivley avoiding ADV scanners in FW. And im sure they are adv because they are being carried by proto suits and by players with full squads from corps, and any smart man knows STD Scanners are worthless. XD
@ Fizzler: The difference between the ''stable'' and the Quantum, CPU/PG wise is minimal.But the scan duration of 5 to 15+ is not.... |
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Posted - 2013.10.30 21:14:00 -
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Sana Rayya wrote:Wow, you guys just don't stop with proliferating wrong information.
How many of you sent a TICKET to CCP and asked if stacking penalties applied to profile dampeners? I did, and they said they DID apply.
How many of you have profile dampening to Level 5 and have discovered that you CAN'T avoid 28 dB scans by using one Complex Dampener and one Enhanced Dampener on a medium suit? I have. I MUST use 2 complex to avoid proto scanners.
By your logic:
50dB * .90 (skill at level 5) = 45 dB 45 dB * .75 (complex) = 33.75 dB 33.75 dB * .80 (enhanced) = 27 dB (should avoid proto scans, but it doesn't)
This is what really happens:
50 dB * .90 (skill at level 5) = 45 dB 45 dB * .6262 (complex and enhanced using stacking penalty calculator) = 28.18 dB (doesn't avoid proto scans)
With two complex dampeners: 50dB * .90 (skill at level 5) = 45 dB 45 dB * .587 (two complex using stacking penalty calculator) = 26.42 dB (avoids proto scans)
And oh, KING CHECKMATE, FYR you only need two militia or basic profile dampeners to avoid advanced scans if you have level 3 in the skill (your profile is 34.74 dB). There is no added benefit in using higher than basic/militia in two slots at your skill level, since you can't go under proto scans unless you use three slots for three enhanced or get your dampening to proto.
Ok again, thanks everyone that helped answer this, the math is still somewhat blurry in my eyes since you have all given me so many formulas. But now i know Stacking penalties do apply and that is not as useless as i thought,but playing tank + active scanner is still better/cheaper sp wise IMO....TY everybody.
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