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KING CHECKMATE
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
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Posted - 2013.10.25 03:17:00 -
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Ive noticed in the past week a sudden decrease in AR's Are OP threads. Maybe its because 90% of people agree they are range broken, or maybe it is because CCP already confirmed they re supposed to be Close - mid range instead of out DPS'n Scrambler rifles and Lasers at optimal range...
but this is not the only thing i've noticed.
IN GAMES the amound of Ars is decreasing. Maybe im blind,but i've been seeing ASCRs,SCRs,SMG's SHOTGUNS!, mass drivers again,etc....
MAybe people are just realizing they need to find a new weapon to use since ARs are not going to be KING OF ALL TRADES anymore.
I think this is a good thing, for 2 reasons: GÖª The diversity has increased to a pleasurable level where not only you have a chance to fight back since you dont have 3 guys shooting at you at the same time with GEKs (and we all know thats 100% death sentence) but you get the chance to adapt more with your weapon to different situations. GÖª THE Plasma rifle or AR as its commonly known WILL be classified as a CQ weapon,so its another weapon scouts will be able to use with a certain degree of advantage over other weapons.
Discuss. |
Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
343
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Posted - 2013.10.25 03:22:00 -
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Goodbye COD514
Hello DUST |
KING CHECKMATE
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
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Posted - 2013.10.25 03:23:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Goodbye COD514
Hello DUST
Hopefully my friend, hopefully..... |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
3230
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Posted - 2013.10.25 03:27:00 -
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I think you're seeing more weapon diversity because people are bored and don't want to do the same thing all the time, even if they realize they would do better with the AR. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
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Posted - 2013.10.25 03:27:00 -
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Looking forward to the combat and rail rifle's induction to the game's meta. Maybe this means we'll be more emphasis on fitting diversity instead of just stacking plates since those rifles will deal bonus damage to armor. |
Dunk Mujunk
RestlessSpirits
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Posted - 2013.10.25 03:27:00 -
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Live it up while you can. Soon as people start gravitating towards the next weapon we'll be right back to square 1. The AR is going to be close-medium range? So it should be on even ground with the Shotgun. I guess that makes sense, somewhere, somehow.......... |
Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
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Posted - 2013.10.25 03:30:00 -
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Dunk Mujunk wrote:Live it up while you can. Soon as people start gravitating towards the next weapon we'll be right back to square 1. The AR is going to be close-medium range? So it should be on even ground with the Shotgun. I guess that makes sense, somewhere, somehow.......... I hear with the Breach AR you'll have to melee them for the shots to connect. |
KING CHECKMATE
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
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Posted - 2013.10.25 03:30:00 -
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Dunk Mujunk wrote:Live it up while you can. Soon as people start gravitating towards the next weapon we'll be right back to square 1. The AR is going to be close-medium range? So it should be on even ground with the Shotgun. I guess that makes sense, somewhere, somehow..........
With good aim you can kill the enemy with this ''close-mid range'' AR. If the shotgunners lives to get close you are dead. Fair enough.
This would explain why ARS are so beast at CQ XD
@ Cosgar: Im a Caldari tech fanboi too, i cant wait for rail rifles and Magsec SMGS XD |
Roofer Madness
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
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Posted - 2013.10.25 03:36:00 -
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I've noticed a bit more diversity on the battlefield lately. Makes me feel a lot better about the game. The Plasma Rifl... I mean assault rifle is just so damn .. vanilla. We're playing a space age shooter for christ's sake. Bring on the crazy weapons!!!! |
KING CHECKMATE
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Posted - 2013.10.25 03:42:00 -
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Roofer Madness wrote:I've noticed a bit more diversity on the battlefield lately. Makes me feel a lot better about the game. The Plasma Rifl... I mean assault rifle is just so damn .. vanilla. We're playing a space age shooter for christ's sake. Bring on the crazy weapons!!!!
PLISS CCP , give us more weapons ,ty. |
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Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.10.25 03:51:00 -
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Still haven't seen a small railgun kill yet...... |
KING CHECKMATE
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
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Posted - 2013.10.25 03:53:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:Still haven't seen a small railgun kill yet......
nope, but i have bee killed by missile launchers lately :D
Whats up with those RAilguns anyways,they are worst than Breach FGs and thats saying something... |
Roofer Madness
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
393
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Posted - 2013.10.25 03:54:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:Still haven't seen a small railgun kill yet......
I got killed by a small rail one time. True story. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
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Posted - 2013.10.25 03:57:00 -
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Roofer Madness wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:Still haven't seen a small railgun kill yet...... I got killed by a small rail one time. True story. I would go around telling people that. |
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
90
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Posted - 2013.10.25 03:59:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Ive noticed in the past week a sudden decrease in AR's Are OP threads. Maybe its because 90% of people agree they are range broken, or maybe it is because CCP already confirmed they re supposed to be Close - mid range instead of out DPS'n Scrambler rifles and Lasers at optimal range...
but this is not the only thing i've noticed.
IN GAMES the amound of Ars is decreasing. Maybe im blind,but i've been seeing ASCRs,SCRs,SMG's SHOTGUNS!, mass drivers again,etc....HELL,i even went vs a squad full of plasma cannon users! the MADNESS! BREACH AND BURST ARS> WHAAAAAAT....
MAybe people are just realizing they need to find a new weapon to use since ARs are not going to be KING OF ALL TRADES anymore.
I think this is a good thing, for 2 reasons: GÖª The diversity has increased to a pleasurable level where not only you have a chance to fight back since you dont have 3 guys shooting at you at the same time with GEKs (and we all know thats 100% death sentence) but you get the chance to adapt more with your weapon to different situations. GÖª THE Plasma rifle or AR as its commonly known WILL be classified as a CQ weapon,so its another weapon scouts will be able to use with a certain degree of advantage over other weapons.
Discuss. Or maybe they never were you simply didnt have a large pool of people with leveled up, weapons to compare. Anyone that sits here and says the ar does more damge at lasers optimal range is an idiot, the weapons optimal starts at around 80 meters my efficacy drops to under 60 percent at 65 meters, who is this dude and who says dumb stuff like that and where are the people who know better telling him to stfu? Please make video of an ar out dps the laser at optimal range, 80, to 100 meters, this idiot must never look at the range hes shooting from, wow......Scrmrifle smokes people, dude your bad. |
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
The Kaos Legion
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Posted - 2013.10.25 04:02:00 -
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i've noticed this too. a guy ripped me apart with a CreoDron Breach AR earlier today. then i was protostomped 6 matches in a row by duvolle ARs.
off topic, but i faced someone who saw i had nova knives, then ran up to try to melee me, multiple times. i just dodged him waiting for him to pull out his AR, but no, he kept trying to melee me. needless to say, i killed him, but i mean come on. he literally GAVE me that kill. then again he was in a frontline suit, so he was probably a noob XD. |
KING CHECKMATE
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Posted - 2013.10.25 04:02:00 -
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote: Or maybe they never were you simply didnt have a large pool of people with leveled up, weapons to compare. Anyone that sits here and says the ar does more damge at lasers optimal range is an idiot, the weapons optimal starts at around 80 meters my efficacy drops to under 60 percent at 65 meters, who is this dude and who says dumb stuff like that and where are the people who know better telling him to stfu? Please make video of an ar out dps the laser at optimal range, 80, to 100 meters, this idiot must never look at the range hes shooting from, wow......Scrmrifle smokes people, dude your bad.
AT 60% Damage Ar is still more than enough to decimate most suits XD Are you playing the same game we are? We all know numbers do not reflect directly what happens IN DUST...
Anyhow, tough luck . ARs are gentting huge range nerf. Deal with it scrubby...no more AR514.... |
Roofer Madness
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
393
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Posted - 2013.10.25 04:04:00 -
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I ran into a guy the other day rocking a plasma cannon, nova knives, and remotes in a scout suit. And he kicked ass with them too. I sent him a good game message (as I do all other PLC users) and he told me he wanted to play hard mode. Well played sir. Wish I could remember his name. If we ever get a respec I'd be tempted to go the same route. |
Meeko Fent
expert intervention Caldari State
1278
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Posted - 2013.10.25 04:06:00 -
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I remember the match where I went 11 and 3 with a ADV SMG.
Then, I remember my STD CalSalt fit with a STD Shotgun going like 8 and 2 in a FW against a stacked match of Gallente Whores |
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
90
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Posted - 2013.10.25 04:10:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote: Or maybe they never were you simply didnt have a large pool of people with leveled up, weapons to compare. Anyone that sits here and says the ar does more damge at lasers optimal range is an idiot, the weapons optimal starts at around 80 meters my efficacy drops to under 60 percent at 65 meters, who is this dude and who says dumb stuff like that and where are the people who know better telling him to stfu? Please make video of an ar out dps the laser at optimal range, 80, to 100 meters, this idiot must never look at the range hes shooting from, wow......Scrmrifle smokes people, dude your bad. AT 60% Damage Ar is still more than enough to decimate most suits XD Are you playing the same game we are? We all know numbers do not reflect directly what happens IN DUST...
Anyhow, tough luck . ARs are gentting huge range nerf. Deal with it scrubby...no more AR514.... You said it out dpsed a laser at optimal range, again thats 80 meters and thats simply a lie, as for the range it matters little, I play all weapons and all suits, as for scrubby im not on here qqing asking for nerfs. |
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KING CHECKMATE
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Posted - 2013.10.25 04:14:00 -
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote: You said it out dpsed a laser at optimal range, again thats 80 meters and thats simply a lie, as for the range it matters little, I play all weapons and all suits, as for scrubby im not on here qqing asking for nerfs.
You might not be scrubby, but you are definitly not smart NOR have the slightest skill in reading comprehension. 1-Im usually against NERFS ,if you knew me, of course you dont since you seem to be pretty new around here 2- I never asked for an AR nerf in this thread. Im just saying is happening 3-If you dont have anything interesting to say please remove your butthurt behind from my thread.ty |
THUNDERGROOVE
ZionTCD Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.10.25 04:16:00 -
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote: You said it out dpsed a laser at optimal range, again thats 80 meters and thats simply a lie, as for the range it matters little, I play all weapons and all suits, as for scrubby im not on here qqing asking for nerfs.
Oh but it does. Also, you hoboed your way into my squad earlier. Good games man.
Only reason why people are moving away from the AR is that it's boring.
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Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
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Posted - 2013.10.25 04:18:00 -
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The Lr needs a range buff for every tier. |
THUNDERGROOVE
ZionTCD Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.10.25 04:22:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:The Lr needs a range buff for every tier. LR needs like 25 extra optimal range and no instant falloff. We might get it in a few months because it has half of "Assault Rifle" in the name. |
KING CHECKMATE
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Posted - 2013.10.25 04:34:00 -
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THUNDERGROOVE wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:The Lr needs a range buff for every tier. LR needs like 25 extra optimal range and no instant falloff. We might get it in a few months because it has half of "Assault Rifle" in the name.
LOL but yeah. I mean i can live with the laser rifle being USELESS in the first 50 mts, but at least make it beast after 60-80... XD |
Cosgar
ParagonX
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Posted - 2013.10.25 07:01:00 -
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It's happening! |
Vitharr Foebane
Blood Money Mercenaries
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Posted - 2013.10.25 07:03:00 -
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And not a moment too soon... |
Lynn Beck
Granite Mercenary Division
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Posted - 2013.10.25 07:18:00 -
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TBH though, the minmatar rifle is going to be the next generalist weapon, albeit at less DpS than gallente ar, it will still balance well against ScR... Thinkin about that makes me want to pick up the new Gar and use it with speed/geurilla tactics. Almost like scout/shotty. Either that or just go purebred minnie :D |
HYENAKILLER X
Da Short Buss
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Posted - 2013.10.25 07:37:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:I think you're seeing more weapon diversity because people are bored and don't want to do the same thing all the time, even if they realize they would do better with the AR. This |
negative49er
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
279
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Posted - 2013.10.25 07:58:00 -
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:i've noticed this too. a guy ripped me apart with a CreoDron Breach AR earlier today. then i was protostomped 6 matches in a row by duvolle ARs. off topic, but i faced someone who saw i had nova knives, then ran up to try to melee me, multiple times. i just dodged him waiting for him to pull out his AR, but no, he kept trying to melee me. needless to say, i killed him, but i mean come on. he literally GAVE me that kill. then again he was in a frontline suit, so he was probably a noob XD.
or he could have run out of anymore somehow |
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