Clearly people want more definition with roles so I propose that Logis are sidearm only but to balance this assault lose their equipment slot.

This would define the two roles no matter how you look at it or dislike it.

PS logi since beta, I am amarr proto logi, please discuss this as sensibly as possible so its easier for CCP to sift out the logic and reason from bullsht.

Thank you.

Do I need to say it again? Alright then... I can't believe I have to say it again: Logistics are the kings of versatility. We need our Light Weapons to fill that role.

We can use a Plasma Cannon to take out enemy defenses from far away. We can get a shotgun and melt faces. We can get an AR and kill everything, regardless of range, and our equipment is just the icing on the cake.

Example of how versatile we are: Mass Driver, Flaylock Pistol, Remote Explosives, Proximity Explosives. There's a demolition fitting.

Assault Rifle, Repair Tool, Nanite Injector, Nanohive. There's a Combat Medic fitting.

Shotgun, Remote Explosive, Active Scanner, Nanohive. There's a survivalist/hunter/trapper type fitting.

The list goes on and on. In EVE Online, the Logistics Dropships have ALWAYS been very combat efficient. That's a successful MMO that OUR game is based on, and it's been the same way for 10+ years. It won't change. We're supposed to hit hard and take the damage. That's why we're slower than Assaults and Faster than heavies, at the cost of guns. We're supposed to hit like a truck, and we're supposed to be built like one too. We're just strong, not invincible.

Besides, what weapon is able to do effective damage at the same range as an AR? None. An SMG can't do good damage at HALF the range of an AR. If a Logistics was caught in a firefight with just a sidearm, we'd be dead.

There is no fix, because it isn't broke. Anyone who says it is broke hasn't played with Logistics, they're only KDR [people] that are looking to be the almighty-assault. They must be playing CoD or whatever game has a useless support class, because they're obviously confused. Guys, make a Logi-Specific character. You'll see that we're already pretty balanced. Once the first gun runs out, we're dead. That's just how it is.

If all you run are logistics suits, how would you know there's a balancing issue if there was one?

I'd like to point out that the suit is not called "Triage" or "Support". It's called Logistics. That doesn't really translate to Triage. If anything, it translates to mechanic, engineer, technician, etc.

In EVE, for example, a Logistics suit can run Remote Repair, Stasis Webifier, and more. They didn't really HAVE to fit only a Remote Repairer, but if they only wanted to fit Medic support gear (A hard thing to do in that game), they could.