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TechMechMeds
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Posted - 2013.10.24 18:40:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:BLACKLIST THEM
If you don't like logis who fit their suit for Max HP and DPS, can their ass! Send the message that a Logi is supposed to support by using the "metagame"
Stop trying to nerf the Logi Suit because scrub players need to lean on any crutch they can find to get kills. In doing so, you would make us Logis who actually do play support go extinct!
Obviously this doesn't apply to amarr Logis although I have a medic fit, combat logi fit and heavy hugger fit.
Heavy huggers my fav, 801 armour 217 shield, injector, rep tool and hives with an ishukone SMG, I rarely get to use it though. |
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Posted - 2013.10.24 19:46:00 -
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Kira Lannister wrote:To be honest its the built in armor rep that makes tanking so effective in the logi suits.
Give it to everyone or no one.
I can't armor tank in my standard amarr assault, but in my amarr logi i get two low slows in which I can fit armor plates and not worry about a repper.
No, had that problem in chrome where a squad of assaults with two equipment slots each made Logis obsolete almost, also if assault got two equipment slots Logis would logi a lot less, there'd be no need for it. |
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Posted - 2013.10.24 19:49:00 -
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I said this on another thread that if you want logi more defined to a support role then sure sidearms only but that would only be fair if assault were more defined in their role by losing their equipment slot. |
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Posted - 2013.10.24 20:45:00 -
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Meeko Fent wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:Meeko Fent wrote:Normalize the hi and low slots between assault and logi suits.
Replace current blanket bonus (Passive armor rep) with something that actually pertains to logi'ing (Equipment effiecency, CPU and PG reduction) as to make up for less slots for CPU and PG mods.
The two suits should be equals in EHP(one or two AR bullets difference) with sidearms, and equipment being the main difference between the two.
BTW, logis move MARGINALLY slower then assaults of the same level. They already are only 1 or 2 AR bolts away from having equal max health. The stupid "Logi>Assault" myth is wrong, plain and simple. Also, the max health argument is stupid too, Minny suits have the lowest possible max health, but Minny Assault suits make some of the best assault suits. Do you know why they make some of the best assault suits? They move fast. EHP isn't everything. 1. The proto logi and proto assault of the Caldari can have 2 more plate, and one more extender then the assault. So, about 300 HP difference. Balanced, right? The one that doesn't need to be having shot at 2. The proto med frames of the Gallente also have a HP difference. The logi has 200 more hP 3. While an minmatar may move faster, but what does that matter? I can call in a 27k LAV and move faster, but what does that matter if I can get there fast if I have a LAVfull of scouts? Get LAV, shove full of logis, attack obby, revive dead logis wash rinse repeat. The slower logi matters not, when you have 300 more HP, and can just use a LAV to get around that
I have proto assault and proto logi and the assault attributes make me a much better slayer, logi HP gives me better defensive capabilities and the ability to ignore some shots while doing logi work. Attributes are what define a role not HP, come on you should know this and I thought you was good enough to utilise those attributes effectively. No troll just saying. |
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Posted - 2013.10.25 02:54:00 -
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VikingKong iBUN wrote:give logis less module slots than assaults problem solved
I'd much prefer a sidearm only to that, that is exactly why I'm pushing for sidearm only because the only other alternative is HP or slot removal I think and I don't fancy being 1 grenade away from dying at all times. |
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Posted - 2013.10.25 03:30:00 -
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:VikingKong iBUN wrote:give logis less module slots than assaults problem solved Look if they want to change all logi suits to make it better reflect its role im ok with that, just know skilled killers will still be just that, and if your not one now......... Taking Jordans Nikes away wouldnt have kept him from going to the hole. And making me spec into the new best suit to kill you with wont stop you from dying. Bottom line is for all around play logi is the best suit out there and any idiot can see why, the problem is all the idiots that couldnt see why seem to have alot of time to type. Whos fault is it you picked a bad suit for your playstyle?
This is why I'm fine with sidearm only rather than HP or slot nerf, my amarr logi would still be a combat oriented logi because I'd carry two smgs and I am worried about a nerf, so I'm pushing sidearm only because iv seen no other alternatives but slot or HP nerf, I'm asking for a small nerf to avoid a big one, I also propose assault lose their equipment slot so both are dependant on each other but assault would need a damage buff if that was the case. |
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Posted - 2013.10.25 03:31:00 -
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:VikingKong iBUN wrote:give logis less module slots than assaults problem solved I'd much prefer a sidearm only to that, that is exactly why I'm pushing for sidearm only because the only other alternative is HP or slot removal I think and I don't fancy being 1 grenade away from dying at all times. Ok and with your sidearm nerf what happens to the Amarr their genius?
I carry two sidearms rather than a regular one sidearm. |
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Posted - 2013.10.25 03:32:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Mordecai Sanguine wrote:https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=117209&find=unread
Read this entirely. Stop saying ideas one by one without why or how.....
What i say got sense i explain why it should be done. I'd rather get restricted to sidearms than deal with that convoluted fitting system.
Exactly. |
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Posted - 2013.10.25 03:39:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Cosgar wrote:Mordecai Sanguine wrote:https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=117209&find=unread
Read this entirely. Stop saying ideas one by one without why or how.....
What i say got sense i explain why it should be done. I'd rather get restricted to sidearms than deal with that convoluted fitting system. Exactly. Just keep in mind both of those options are comparable to deciding on a punch to the face or a kick in the nuts.
I know, but HP or slot removal will just make us grenade or sniper fodder, trust me I don't want sidearms only but it seems to be better than HP or slot nerf and iv not seen any other proposals worth remembering.
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TechMechMeds
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Posted - 2013.10.25 03:55:00 -
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:VikingKong iBUN wrote:give logis less module slots than assaults problem solved Look if they want to change all logi suits to make it better reflect its role im ok with that, just know skilled killers will still be just that, and if your not one now......... Taking Jordans Nikes away wouldnt have kept him from going to the hole. And making me spec into the new best suit to kill you with wont stop you from dying. Bottom line is for all around play logi is the best suit out there and any idiot can see why, the problem is all the idiots that couldnt see why seem to have alot of time to type. Whos fault is it you picked a bad suit for your playstyle? This is why I'm fine with sidearm only rather than HP or slot nerf, my amarr logi would still be a combat oriented logi because I'd carry two smgs and I am worried about a nerf, so I'm pushing sidearm only because iv seen no other alternatives but slot or HP nerf, I'm asking for a small nerf to avoid a big one, I also propose assault lose their equipment slot so both are dependant on each other but assault would need a damage buff if that was the case. Ill live with whatever the idiots at ccp do, but let me be clear, I support NO NERFS ever of any kind, this game has gone in damn circles since ive been playing it with nerfs and buffs and ultimately whats called balancing is simply response to crying, like a mother picking up her baby to put it on the tit when it cries, eventually you have to put it down and eventually it will cry again, until it, GROWS UP, gets a pair and learns how to shoot. The reason these posts exist is because so many of you simply suck at this game, I know I know you never died in Eve, flying around in your ship mining ore, look for little space boys to abduct. Heres a great solution, look in the mirror and ask yourself, am I over 30? If the answer is yes and your on here crying about logis understand the problem is you, this game requires more reflex than you developed jumping around on mushrooms with mario and his green gay lover, and btw if your girlfriend isnt home occasionally salvaging your ship for you, and you dont know what muscles the incline bench vs decline work, you probably are not, working with alot in the way of testosterone, you might try and see if that helps your gun game, bring that fast twitch muscle fiber online...........
I'm not crying about anything though, would you rather say nothing and eventually have our HP or slots nerfed? Because that's clearly the way its going. No I'm not 30 just yet either lol |
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TechMechMeds
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Posted - 2013.10.25 04:07:00 -
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:VikingKong iBUN wrote:give logis less module slots than assaults problem solved Look if they want to change all logi suits to make it better reflect its role im ok with that, just know skilled killers will still be just that, and if your not one now......... Taking Jordans Nikes away wouldnt have kept him from going to the hole. And making me spec into the new best suit to kill you with wont stop you from dying. Bottom line is for all around play logi is the best suit out there and any idiot can see why, the problem is all the idiots that couldnt see why seem to have alot of time to type. Whos fault is it you picked a bad suit for your playstyle? This is why I'm fine with sidearm only rather than HP or slot nerf, my amarr logi would still be a combat oriented logi because I'd carry two smgs and I am worried about a nerf, so I'm pushing sidearm only because iv seen no other alternatives but slot or HP nerf, I'm asking for a small nerf to avoid a big one, I also propose assault lose their equipment slot so both are dependant on each other but assault would need a damage buff if that was the case. Ill live with whatever the idiots at ccp do, but let me be clear, I support NO NERFS ever of any kind, this game has gone in damn circles since ive been playing it with nerfs and buffs and ultimately whats called balancing is simply response to crying, like a mother picking up her baby to put it on the tit when it cries, eventually you have to put it down and eventually it will cry again, until it, GROWS UP, gets a pair and learns how to shoot. The reason these posts exist is because so many of you simply suck at this game, I know I know you never died in Eve, flying around in your ship mining ore, look for little space boys to abduct. Heres a great solution, look in the mirror and ask yourself, am I over 30? If the answer is yes and your on here crying about logis understand the problem is you, this game requires more reflex than you developed jumping around on mushrooms with mario and his green gay lover, and btw if your girlfriend isnt home occasionally salvaging your ship for you, and you dont know what muscles the incline bench vs decline work, you probably are not, working with alot in the way of testosterone, you might try and see if that helps your gun game, bring that fast twitch muscle fiber online...........
In all honesty, people who to to lengths to post so much rubbish are the kind of btches I can lift with one arm, you should chill because it makes you look like one of those fgs your implying people are. |
TechMechMeds
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Posted - 2013.10.25 04:20:00 -
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^ totally agreed. |
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Posted - 2013.10.25 04:48:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:^ totally agreed. Everything that made this game a good FPS has been stripped away by this casual mentality to the point that the core mechanics don't even accommodate what was supposed to make Dust different in the first place. At this rate, the damn game is going to wind up turn based.
Lol, that would be well good
I'm joking just in case lol |
TechMechMeds
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Posted - 2013.10.25 05:10:00 -
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I need the HP to use myself as a bullet shield while healing or reviving people, I guess hardly anyone does that. |
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