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SteelDark Knight wrote:

Gildart Lightray wrote:

Killar-12 wrote:

DJINN Rampage wrote:

Gildart Lightray wrote:

I want to see how new corporation will handle the changes. There's going to be a point where making your own corp with goal of PC is going to be impossible. Unless pub matches and pub battles cough up more Isk.

Also, can anyone say reset? Roll

think CCP would let 60+mil SP player walk around like gods while some 500,000 k noob gets out of the academy? Down the line of course

reset = lose your whole player base.

Correct,
Reset = No
Respec=Yes

MOST new guys are stupid and have a shelf life of 1-2 weeks, if they make it past week 2 they'll stick around

Right and out of the hundreds or thousands that try this game out only a few remain( like I did. Every time a duvolle murdered me I kept thinking " can't wait to have one to you scrub and kill you 1 on 1" ). Don't get me wrong, I'm not up for reset, if it happens I'm out (maybe lol). I know very well a lot of you would quit if that we're to happen. It's just that MOST would not stick around and it's hard enough keeping the current player base playing this game. If not enough people are staying and new blood isn't sticking around to get proto stomped than CCP had a problem on it's hands.

Also respec does not help new players. and the changes to PC don't help either if eve were to be more intergrated with this game.

The problem with the "reset" argument is that the player base will never be static. Even with a reset and all the damage that would do we would be at the same point again after 6 months. If the game is to survive there will always be new players and the disparity of SP.

Balance has to be achieved via different methods. Matchmaking, PvE, More rewarding modes that veterans will flock to, and the concept that more SP makes you good in many things but that an individual with less SP can be just as good and compete with his/her one thing.

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Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1554	Posted - 2013.10.24 16:27:00 - [1] - Quote So what do you guys think about this? What about the EVE backing that it needs? Do you think any big guys from EVE will contact any big guys from Dust? just Ideas and opinions are All I want to know... nothing too detailed...
SteelDark Knight Ancient Exiles 133	Posted - 2013.10.24 16:35:00 - [2] - Quote It is all about the financial benefit Eve side. If good, then yes they you will see Eve participation. If not, well then you will have what we do currently. At this point we do not have enough info on rewards to know for sure.
843 Epidemic Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 339	Posted - 2013.10.24 17:08:00 - [3] - Quote I can see it being a bit "It'll be awesome... IF this happens like this"
ReGnYuM MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN. 1176	Posted - 2013.10.24 17:21:00 - [4] - Quote Always wanted a Pandemic Legion Clan Tag
General John Ripper MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN. 3833	Posted - 2013.10.24 17:30:00 - [5] - Quote I just want dance moves in the warbarge while I wait for pc.
XEROO COOL Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 61	Posted - 2013.10.24 18:10:00 - [6] - Quote General John Ripper wrote: I just want dance moves in the warbarge while I wait for pc. you dont just enjoy running into the rear end of other mercs... or standing over a guy on a high point so it looks like he is sucking your D? If the perversion leaves this game... IM OUT :D
Derrith Erador Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 300	Posted - 2013.10.24 18:30:00 - [7] - Quote General John Ripper wrote: I just want dance moves in the warbarge while I wait for pc. I want to see twerking.
Soraya Xel New Eden's Most Wanted Top Men. 686	Posted - 2013.10.24 18:52:00 - [8] - Quote The truth is, that EVE players will cry about it, but the only way DUST works well, is if CCP makes DUST teams a significant part of the sovereignty system in nullsec.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 865	Posted - 2013.10.24 18:53:00 - [9] - Quote PC is a broken piece of sht for many reasons, iv completely lost my competitive attitude in dust as there is nothing yet worth any kind of effort save for fw and barely.
General John Ripper MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN. 3837	Posted - 2013.10.24 18:55:00 - [10] - Quote Derrith Erador wrote: General John Ripper wrote: I just want dance moves in the warbarge while I wait for pc. I want to see twerking. If it was a skill, I would get it to level 5 proficiency 5.

Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1555	Posted - 2013.10.24 19:17:00 - [11] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: PC is a broken piece of sht for many reasons, iv completely lost my competitive attitude in dust as there is nothing yet worth any kind of effort save for fw and barely. what about the new system of PC that has been talked about.
Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1555	Posted - 2013.10.24 19:21:00 - [12] - Quote ReGnYuM wrote: Always wanted a Pandemic Legion Clan Tag I'd suggest looking for Gentlemen's Agreement or Top Men I'd think you'll see more of those warbarges... The goons will be too busy finding some way to exploit TKing in FW Even then does Pandemic even DUST?
Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1555	Posted - 2013.10.24 19:22:00 - [13] - Quote SteelDark Knight wrote: It is all about the financial benefit Eve side. If good, then yes they you will see Eve participation. If not, well then you will have what we do currently. At this point we do not have enough info on rewards to know for sure. Very true and a good point...
Soraya Xel New Eden's Most Wanted Top Men. 687	Posted - 2013.10.24 19:27:00 - [14] - Quote Killar-12 wrote: Even then does Pandemic even DUST? They aren't territorial, so it'd be kinda odd for them to be helping hold territory in PC. I don't think you'd see that. At most, you'd see them torch war barges because lulz.
Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1556	Posted - 2013.10.24 19:30:00 - [15] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Killar-12 wrote: Even then does Pandemic even DUST? They aren't territorial, so it'd be kinda odd for them to be helping hold territory in PC. I don't think you'd see that. At most, you'd see them torch war barges because lulz. Yeah, you'll probably see the Goons torching Warbarges too, and anyone who enjoys reckless destruction
Gildart Lightray Eternal Beings 16	Posted - 2013.10.24 19:40:00 - [16] - Quote I want to see how new corporation will handle the changes. There's going to be a point where making your own corp with goal of PC is going to be impossible. Unless pub matches and pub battles cough up more Isk. Also, can anyone say reset? think CCP would let 60+mil SP player walk around like gods while some 500,000 k noob gets out of the academy? Down the line of course
DJINN Rampage Ancient Exiles 494	Posted - 2013.10.24 19:47:00 - [17] - Quote Gildart Lightray wrote: I want to see how new corporation will handle the changes. There's going to be a point where making your own corp with goal of PC is going to be impossible. Unless pub matches and pub battles cough up more Isk. Also, can anyone say reset? think CCP would let 60+mil SP player walk around like gods while some 500,000 k noob gets out of the academy? Down the line of course reset = lose your whole player base.
General John Ripper MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN. 3850	Posted - 2013.10.24 19:49:00 - [18] - Quote DJINN Rampage wrote: Gildart Lightray wrote: I want to see how new corporation will handle the changes. There's going to be a point where making your own corp with goal of PC is going to be impossible. Unless pub matches and pub battles cough up more Isk. Also, can anyone say reset? think CCP would let 60+mil SP player walk around like gods while some 500,000 k noob gets out of the academy? Down the line of course reset = lose your whole player base. logical response approved.
Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1557	Posted - 2013.10.24 19:52:00 - [19] - Quote DJINN Rampage wrote: Gildart Lightray wrote: I want to see how new corporation will handle the changes. There's going to be a point where making your own corp with goal of PC is going to be impossible. Unless pub matches and pub battles cough up more Isk. Also, can anyone say reset? think CCP would let 60+mil SP player walk around like gods while some 500,000 k noob gets out of the academy? Down the line of course reset = lose your whole player base. Correct, Reset = No Respec=Yes MOST new guys are stupid and have a shelf life of 1-2 weeks, if they make it past week 2 they'll stick around
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3582	Posted - 2013.10.24 20:30:00 - [20] - Quote Killar-12 wrote: So what do you guys think about this? What about the EVE backing that it needs? Do you think any big guys from EVE will contact any big guys from Dust? just Ideas and opinions are All I want to know... nothing too detailed... NO YOU HAVE TO CONTACT THEM. Fucks sake they don't need you, you need them, unless you build your corp to suit them you are destined to be under their heel.

Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1558	Posted - 2013.10.24 21:28:00 - [21] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Killar-12 wrote: So what do you guys think about this? What about the EVE backing that it needs? Do you think any big guys from EVE will contact any big guys from Dust? just Ideas and opinions are All I want to know... nothing too detailed... NO YOU HAVE TO CONTACT THEM. Fucks sake they don't need you, you need them, unless you build your corp to suit them you are destined to be under their heel. You're correct, IF I haven't said this before The loner I keep posting the more Alcohol I consume post Quality drops and this happens, We (The Corporate Raiders) joined Top Men because we were looking for eve guys...OP will be fixed...
godhands9 Ancient Exiles 119	Posted - 2013.10.24 21:37:00 - [22] - Quote The thing is corporations without EVE help will disappear,and crumble under strength they don't have.Without the EVE help you will fail.very simple and plain.
Roy Ventus Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance 540	Posted - 2013.10.25 01:01:00 - [23] - Quote What is this 2.0 business?
21yrOld Knight Pradox XVI 218	Posted - 2013.10.25 01:03:00 - [24] - Quote I actually asked this in the feedback and request at one point. I am happy it is being implemented.
XxWarlordxX97 Ancient Exiles 4897	Posted - 2013.10.25 02:27:00 - [25] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: The truth is, that EVE players will cry about it, but the only way DUST works well, is if CCP makes DUST teams a significant part of the sovereignty system in nullsec.
Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming EoN. 4349	Posted - 2013.10.25 09:02:00 - [26] - Quote Killar-12 wrote: So what do you guys think about this? What about the EVE backing that it needs? Do you think any big guys from EVE will get involved more with Dust? just Ideas and opinions are All I want to know... nothing too detailed... no. if it doesnt affect nullsec to the point where they need us then they wont care about DUST
Gildart Lightray Eternal Beings 16	Posted - 2013.10.25 14:16:00 - [27] - Quote Killar-12 wrote: DJINN Rampage wrote: Gildart Lightray wrote: I want to see how new corporation will handle the changes. There's going to be a point where making your own corp with goal of PC is going to be impossible. Unless pub matches and pub battles cough up more Isk. Also, can anyone say reset? think CCP would let 60+mil SP player walk around like gods while some 500,000 k noob gets out of the academy? Down the line of course reset = lose your whole player base. Correct, Reset = No Respec=Yes MOST new guys are stupid and have a shelf life of 1-2 weeks, if they make it past week 2 they'll stick around Right and out of the hundreds or thousands that try this game out only a few remain( like I did. Every time a duvolle murdered me I kept thinking " can't wait to have one to you scrub and kill you 1 on 1" ). Don't get me wrong, I'm not up for reset, if it happens I'm out (maybe lol). I know very well a lot of you would quit if that we're to happen. It's just that MOST would not stick around and it's hard enough keeping the current player base playing this game. If not enough people are staying and new blood isn't sticking around to get proto stomped than CCP had a problem on it's hands. Also respec does not help new players. and the changes to PC don't help either if eve were to be more intergrated with this game.
Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1561	Posted - 2013.10.25 15:04:00 - [28] - Quote Mavado V Noriega wrote: Killar-12 wrote: So what do you guys think about this? What about the EVE backing that it needs? Do you think any big guys from EVE will get involved more with Dust? just Ideas and opinions are All I want to know... nothing too detailed... no. if it doesnt affect nullsec to the point where they need us then they wont care about DUST Thought I fixed that line... True, still what about little guys?
Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1561	Posted - 2013.10.25 15:07:00 - [29] - Quote Gildart Lightray wrote: Killar-12 wrote: DJINN Rampage wrote: Gildart Lightray wrote: I want to see how new corporation will handle the changes. There's going to be a point where making your own corp with goal of PC is going to be impossible. Unless pub matches and pub battles cough up more Isk. Also, can anyone say reset? think CCP would let 60+mil SP player walk around like gods while some 500,000 k noob gets out of the academy? Down the line of course reset = lose your whole player base. Correct, Reset = No Respec=Yes MOST new guys are stupid and have a shelf life of 1-2 weeks, if they make it past week 2 they'll stick around Right and out of the hundreds or thousands that try this game out only a few remain( like I did. Every time a duvolle murdered me I kept thinking " can't wait to have one to you scrub and kill you 1 on 1" ). Don't get me wrong, I'm not up for reset, if it happens I'm out (maybe lol). I know very well a lot of you would quit if that we're to happen. It's just that MOST would not stick around and it's hard enough keeping the current player base playing this game. If not enough people are staying and new blood isn't sticking around to get proto stomped than CCP had a problem on it's hands. Also respec does not help new players. and the changes to PC don't help either if eve were to be more intergrated with this game. look the life expectancy depends on the person playing...
Moorian Flav Ectype Inc. 76	Posted - 2013.10.25 15:08:00 - [30] - Quote Quote: PC don't help either if eve were to be more intergrated with this game. I disagree. If CCP actually followed through with some of their past promises, previous players might come back.

Gildart Lightray Eternal Beings 16	Posted - 2013.10.25 15:21:00 - [31] - Quote Moorian Flav wrote: Quote: PC don't help either if eve were to be more intergrated with this game. I disagree. If CCP actually followed through with some of their past promises, previous players might come back. True but does it bring in new players?
Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1563	Posted - 2013.10.25 16:32:00 - [32] - Quote Gildart Lightray wrote: Moorian Flav wrote: Quote: PC don't help either if eve were to be more intergrated with this game. I disagree. If CCP actually followed through with some of their past promises, previous players might come back. True but does it bring in new players? To get new players 3 things must happen 1 Better + More Tutorials 2 PvE 3 And small but noticeable tax rate in NPC corporations
SteelDark Knight Ancient Exiles 136	Posted - 2013.10.25 17:02:00 - [33] - Quote Gildart Lightray wrote: Killar-12 wrote: DJINN Rampage wrote: Gildart Lightray wrote: I want to see how new corporation will handle the changes. There's going to be a point where making your own corp with goal of PC is going to be impossible. Unless pub matches and pub battles cough up more Isk. Also, can anyone say reset? think CCP would let 60+mil SP player walk around like gods while some 500,000 k noob gets out of the academy? Down the line of course reset = lose your whole player base. Correct, Reset = No Respec=Yes MOST new guys are stupid and have a shelf life of 1-2 weeks, if they make it past week 2 they'll stick around Right and out of the hundreds or thousands that try this game out only a few remain( like I did. Every time a duvolle murdered me I kept thinking " can't wait to have one to you scrub and kill you 1 on 1" ). Don't get me wrong, I'm not up for reset, if it happens I'm out (maybe lol). I know very well a lot of you would quit if that we're to happen. It's just that MOST would not stick around and it's hard enough keeping the current player base playing this game. If not enough people are staying and new blood isn't sticking around to get proto stomped than CCP had a problem on it's hands. Also respec does not help new players. and the changes to PC don't help either if eve were to be more intergrated with this game. The problem with the "reset" argument is that the player base will never be static. Even with a reset and all the damage that would do we would be at the same point again after 6 months. If the game is to survive there will always be new players and the disparity of SP. Balance has to be achieved via different methods. Matchmaking, PvE, More rewarding modes that veterans will flock to, and the concept that more SP makes you good in many things but that an individual with less SP can be just as good and compete with his/her one thing.
Maximus Stryker Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 663	Posted - 2013.10.25 17:36:00 - [34] - Quote Killar-12 wrote: So what do you guys think about this? What about the EVE backing that it needs? Do you think any big guys from EVE will get involved more with Dust? just Ideas and opinions are All I want to know... nothing too detailed... I think it needs two versions. One They way it currently is where DUST does not EVE to function Two The way it was discussed at EVE Vegas where EVE pilots will fly DUST War Barges and all the good interconnectvity Another way of looking at it is the current version is low-sec and the future new version is null-sec. DUST players have the option to play in either one.
Gildart Lightray Eternal Beings 16	Posted - 2013.10.25 20:20:00 - [35] - Quote SteelDark Knight wrote: Gildart Lightray wrote: Killar-12 wrote: DJINN Rampage wrote: Gildart Lightray wrote: I want to see how new corporation will handle the changes. There's going to be a point where making your own corp with goal of PC is going to be impossible. Unless pub matches and pub battles cough up more Isk. Also, can anyone say reset? think CCP would let 60+mil SP player walk around like gods while some 500,000 k noob gets out of the academy? Down the line of course reset = lose your whole player base. Correct, Reset = No Respec=Yes MOST new guys are stupid and have a shelf life of 1-2 weeks, if they make it past week 2 they'll stick around Right and out of the hundreds or thousands that try this game out only a few remain( like I did. Every time a duvolle murdered me I kept thinking " can't wait to have one to you scrub and kill you 1 on 1" ). Don't get me wrong, I'm not up for reset, if it happens I'm out (maybe lol). I know very well a lot of you would quit if that we're to happen. It's just that MOST would not stick around and it's hard enough keeping the current player base playing this game. If not enough people are staying and new blood isn't sticking around to get proto stomped than CCP had a problem on it's hands. Also respec does not help new players. and the changes to PC don't help either if eve were to be more intergrated with this game. The problem with the "reset" argument is that the player base will never be static. Even with a reset and all the damage that would do we would be at the same point again after 6 months. If the game is to survive there will always be new players and the disparity of SP. Balance has to be achieved via different methods. Matchmaking, PvE, More rewarding modes that veterans will flock to, and the concept that more SP makes you good in many things but that an individual with less SP can be just as good and compete with his/her one thing. I completely agree with you. The thing which I was trying to say and failing to get across was that if the game remains as it is than it's going to slowly die and a reset seemed like away for CCP to try and remedy that. Not saying I was for it or not. Just a theory. If PvE gives you SP than that would be an awesome way for blueberries to get the hang of the game and stay around. But also theres the problem that depending on the features of the game and the future mechanics, new corps would have a huge mountain to overcome. Heck they already do in many ways. And many of the things CCP wants to add to the game for corps involves Isk, and no doubt a lot of Isk. Unless a new CEO recruits all the new guys from local and sets taxes pretty high up. Buying clone packs will be the least of his worries. Either way that's my 2 cents. I'm all for the little guys that don't have 200 million sitting around in their wallets.
Ryme Intrinseca Seraphim Auxiliaries 145	Posted - 2013.10.27 17:01:00 - [36] - Quote Derrith Erador wrote: General John Ripper wrote: I just want dance moves in the warbarge while I wait for pc. I want to see twerking. It's already in the game, just look for noobs with their hands on the hackpoint console, and spamming triangle to shake their booty.
God Hates Lags Red Star. EoN. 128	Posted - 2013.10.28 20:37:00 - [37] - Quote imo it will change PC for the worse. griefer ganks will stonewall any attempt to transport clones and there will be nothing Dust players can do about it. One Eve alliance will most likely gobble up every district with hired ringers and then sit on them and let the iso roll in.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1065	Posted - 2013.10.28 23:13:00 - [38] - Quote Killar-12 wrote: So what do you guys think about this? What about the EVE backing that it needs? Do you think any big guys from EVE will get involved more with Dust? just Ideas and opinions are All I want to know... nothing too detailed... A lot of eve pilots are interested but its up to CCP to make it worth it for all of them to get invbolved . Sygnachoor Level 1 forum warrior.
Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1572	Posted - 2013.10.28 23:16:00 - [39] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: Killar-12 wrote: So what do you guys think about this? What about the EVE backing that it needs? Do you think any big guys from EVE will get involved more with Dust? just Ideas and opinions are All I want to know... nothing too detailed... A lot of eve pilots are interested but its up to CCP to make it worth it for all of them to get invbolved . Good point I'll like to see more top hats made in Molden Heath CEO of The Corporate Raiders, We're still recruiting... Level 1 Forum Warrior
Vinsarrow New Eden Blades Of The Azure 20	Posted - 2013.10.29 01:38:00 - [40] - Quote All I have to say about PC is it's fun when not serious & please open it outside Molden Heath more

Soulja Ghostface MCDUSTDONALDS The Scourge. 1617	Posted - 2013.10.29 04:27:00 - [41] - Quote who the hell made it posible for eve players to destroy the warbarges. 2.0 makes it expensive to deploy those and money for mcc. i loved the free mcc. planetary orbital defense to kill warbarges what the F*K sounds like a way to keep people without an alliance out of pc check eve vegas for the full summary
Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1574	Posted - 2013.10.29 16:19:00 - [42] - Quote Soulja Ghostface wrote: who the hell made it posible for eve players to destroy the warbarges. 2.0 makes it expensive to deploy those and money for mcc. i loved the free mcc. planetary orbital defense to kill warbarges what the F*K sounds like a way to keep people without an alliance out of pc check eve vegas for the full summary EVE guys will pay for the warbarges... just need eve help... CEO of The Corporate Raiders, We're still recruiting... Level 1 Forum Warrior
Roy Ventus Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance 540	Posted - 2013.10.29 16:30:00 - [43] - Quote Would someone mind telling me where everyone is getting this 2.0 stuff from?
Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1574	Posted - 2013.10.29 16:37:00 - [44] - Quote Roy Ventus wrote: Would someone mind telling me where everyone is getting this 2.0 stuff from? Eve Vegas there's a video on You tube... CEO of The Corporate Raiders, We're still recruiting... Level 1 Forum Warrior
Roy Ventus Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance 540	Posted - 2013.10.30 15:28:00 - [45] - Quote Killar-12 wrote: Roy Ventus wrote: Would someone mind telling me where everyone is getting this 2.0 stuff from? Eve Vegas there's a video on You tube... WAAAAAT? EVE VEGAS HAD INTERESTING STUFF?


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