DUST Search - I finally found the bug that caused me so much rage and lost so much isk

Roofer Madness wrote:

XxGhazbaranxX wrote:

Roofer Madness wrote:

Thank you so much for getting video of this damn bug!!!! So frustrating. I am unable to capture video but I've considered buying the appropriate gear just to document the many bugs with my beloved Asthma Cannon. It seems I can semi- recreate this bug by switching weapons before reloading the PLC and then switching back. Often after switching back the projectile will be a dud. Also the horrendous wait time between PLC and sidearm (which can be skipped by sprinting) is super annoying. I sure hope CCP understands that there are people who use this weapon and it needs to be fixed. How does something stay so broken for so long?

Also, why is this not in the TECH SUPPORT/BUG section of the forum? I suggest reposting it there so that it doesn't get buried under endless QQ in the General Discussion. Thanks!

I did not put it in that part of the forums because they get much less attention ( some say any other place is where posts go to die ). Also I filed a Ticket with the bug report tag. So it's actually been reported. All we have to do now Is be patient and hopefully it will be resolved.

Also, I'm sure other forum tro... I mean members don't go to the BUG section but surely CCP reads it? Right? Right?


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XxGhazbaranxX The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 456	Posted - 2013.10.24 12:03:00 - [1] - Quote Hello guys, As plasma Cannon users each shot counts. Sometimes that shot can be a DUD in which case you get the animation but the projection doesn't come out, sometime The shot can deviate to the left or right, and sometimes it will not do the damage it's supposed to. This last one is the one I was finally able to capture. Every time it happened I was, to my displeasure, not recording. But a few days ago I did record it and now I have been able to upload it and submit a ticket to CCP. The link is below. I hope all of you plasma cannon users that have experienced this can finally feel good that you are not crazy and that all the rage it probably has caused you and me might finally not exist in the future depending on CCP's response and course of action. NEW VIDEO: DUST 514 - Plasma Cannon - Bug report Informational videos: Dust 514 - Plasma Cannon - Leading Your Target Plasma Cannon Damage, stacking penalties and more Plasma Cannon: An introduction Plasma Cannon: Skills Proof That The weapon is good Plasma Cannon: Medium to Long Range kill comp Plasma Cannon Kill reel Plasma Cannon Ambush A plasma cannon domination
XxGhazbaranxX The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 457	Posted - 2013.10.24 12:22:00 - [2] - Quote Chit Hoppened wrote: Have you been having, what I call, "phantom shots"? The projectile just passes through people. I've only really noticed it in short range (<15m). Also, I had NO idea this bug existed, but it totally makes sense seeing it happen. I've had prolly close to one hundred missed kills because of these two bugs alone. You are quite right. The Plasma cannon sometimes just goes through people; maybe taking a part of their soul and your patience. Anyways YES. Phantoms shots are on my bugg hunter list. Apart from that, its been too many time I've lost an exchange with other mercs because of what you just saw. I got lucky that fight because he was alone and ran away. He also had already been hit once, sometime I shoot once and only takes away half the shield of a scout in my 426 splash damage Allotek plasma cannon fit. With that much power I would have destroyed his shields at least because that damage isn't without factoring a 10% increase to shield damage.
XxGhazbaranxX The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 457	Posted - 2013.10.24 12:25:00 - [3] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: These Proof for the weapon being "good" are not proofs but instances where people got lucky and or they are very good players. I used the Plasma Cannon and went 17-1 does that mean the Plasma Cannon is good? No. Just as me using the laser rifle going 23-0 and then going this gun is OP would be false. The plasma cannon is fun and the damage is decent and doesn't need to be tampered but its functionality leaves much to be desired. With all that being said this bug needs to be addressed soon as it screws me up far too much when fighting dropships. The weapon is good. People are bad players. I use it in every match unless I am being severely protostomped and have less than a full squad. Just because there are better and borderline OP weapons doesn't mean that the PLC is not a good weapon. It just means people have no skill with it. I don't get lucky; I learned how to use the weapon.
XxGhazbaranxX The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 457	Posted - 2013.10.24 12:33:00 - [4] - Quote Chit Hoppened wrote: The Cannon is very, VERY hard to get the hang of. Watch all of Ghaz's videos. They'll help you out. Also join chat channel Cannon Fever. It's where we Nuke-Tubers (Credit for the name goes to itsmellslikefish) hang out. You'll find yourself in good company in there, as well as, having other Nuke-Tubers to squad up with. @Ghaz - How many other bugs do you know about? There's the one in the video, the phantom projectile, misfires for no damage and some misfires that do damage, but that is all that I know of. Deviation, misfire, phantom, underbelly fire (where the projectile comes out below the weapon as if you where aiming lower), missile disappears before getting to the target even if it's a close shot ( 100 + meters / sometimes re-appears and sometimes it's lost forever ), deviation in charge times by a fraction ( enough for you to die hard to prove though ).... That's about it. If you find any other bugs please tell me so I can hunt them down.
XxGhazbaranxX The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 458	Posted - 2013.10.24 12:56:00 - [5] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Unrelated note: Notice how you load a cylinder type cartridge into the Plasma Cannon, after you fire it's completely gone unlike other mags in this game where you take it out. Burn up perhaps, actual projectile? idk. Let's just agree to disagree. I think It's a win. The more reliable they make the weapon the faster we might make a believer out of you. Anyways yes. The cartridge does seem to disappear. If I'm not mistaken in the description of the weapon it says "... just prior to discharge a small precurser projectile is fired that produces (and is ultimately consumed by) a short lived trail that helps guide and contain the volatile discharge as it travels towards it's target. " So I guess that precursor is the little cartridge maybe?
XxGhazbaranxX The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 459	Posted - 2013.10.24 13:07:00 - [6] - Quote shaman oga wrote: The most difficult weapon to use and also the most bugged. But i love the potato launcher. I think it's the most bugged because there aren't enough people using it to actually say "Hey this is sort of not right". In weapons like the assault rifle we have hundreds of players using it giving it more chances of problems found and being fixed. The plasma cannon has just a few hard-core followers who have more faith in it than the amarr in their god.
XxGhazbaranxX The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 467	Posted - 2013.10.24 13:15:00 - [7] - Quote Roofer Madness wrote: Thank you so much for getting video of this damn bug!!!! So frustrating. I am unable to capture video but I've considered buying the appropriate gear just to document the many bugs with my beloved Asthma Cannon. It seems I can semi- recreate this bug by switching weapons before reloading the PLC and then switching back. Often after switching back the projectile will be a dud. Also the horrendous wait time between PLC and sidearm (which can be skipped by sprinting) is super annoying. I sure hope CCP understands that there are people who use this weapon and it needs to be fixed. How does something stay so broken for so long? Also, why is this not in the TECH SUPPORT/BUG section of the forum? I suggest reposting it there so that it doesn't get buried under endless QQ in the General Discussion. Thanks! I did not put it in that part of the forums because they get much less attention ( some say any other place is where posts go to die ). Also I filed a Ticket with the bug report tag. So it's actually been reported. All we have to do now Is be patient and hopefully it will be resolved.
XxGhazbaranxX The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 468	Posted - 2013.10.24 13:25:00 - [8] - Quote Roofer Madness wrote: XxGhazbaranxX wrote: Roofer Madness wrote: Thank you so much for getting video of this damn bug!!!! So frustrating. I am unable to capture video but I've considered buying the appropriate gear just to document the many bugs with my beloved Asthma Cannon. It seems I can semi- recreate this bug by switching weapons before reloading the PLC and then switching back. Often after switching back the projectile will be a dud. Also the horrendous wait time between PLC and sidearm (which can be skipped by sprinting) is super annoying. I sure hope CCP understands that there are people who use this weapon and it needs to be fixed. How does something stay so broken for so long? Also, why is this not in the TECH SUPPORT/BUG section of the forum? I suggest reposting it there so that it doesn't get buried under endless QQ in the General Discussion. Thanks! I did not put it in that part of the forums because they get much less attention ( some say any other place is where posts go to die ). Also I filed a Ticket with the bug report tag. So it's actually been reported. All we have to do now Is be patient and hopefully it will be resolved. Also, I'm sure other forum tro... I mean members don't go to the BUG section but surely CCP reads it? Right? Right? I really don't know. I've seen dev tags in those forums but not as many as here in the general discussion. When I was a forum noob I used to always be in the feedback and ideas section, then i learned and got forum scouring level 3(adv) and now i'm working on forum posting level 3 hopefully will get proto forum posting soon.
XxGhazbaranxX The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 469	Posted - 2013.10.24 22:59:00 - [9] - Quote Beren Hurin wrote: I thought that the splash radius has its own falloff? The further out you go the less damage it does? splash has no fallof, if it did mass drivers would not be so deadly. in any case the has happened even when i hit the target right at their feet in CQC so there is a bug.