DUST Search - [Suggestion] Newberries start with 1 mil SP

Mortedeamor wrote:

CharCharOdell wrote:

Okay, 500k is seriously not enough. let them start with 1,000,000 UA SP, but lock 500,000 SP for one week. that way, they can spend the first half finding what they dont like, then use the other half on what they do. I dont think anyone should have problem with this. Who else thinks this is a good idea? 1 mil is enough to get an adv suit, adv weapon, and a few basic module types and maybe 1 equipment std.

i would also like them to remove the sp cap and implement it only once 5 mill so has been reached..that way they can at least grind out 1 solid specc

i would like to raise the sp rewards in academy by 30% and bump graduation to 5 mill sp..

they would only have to sit in academy if they were not capable of obtaining 5 mill sp easily...which i mean with no cap..i could max and remove a alt from the academy in these conditions in 24 -48 hours and it would come out with a little survivability

also upon graduation give them an optional full respec ..most blue dots probably ruin they're first character

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CharCharOdell Shining Flame Amarr Empire 1245	Posted - 2013.10.24 02:29:00 - [1] - Quote Okay, 500k is seriously not enough. let them start with 1,000,000 UA SP, but lock 500,000 SP for one week. that way, they can spend the first half finding what they dont like, then use the other half on what they do. I dont think anyone should have problem with this. Who else thinks this is a good idea? 1 mil is enough to get an adv suit, adv weapon, and a few basic module types and maybe 1 equipment std.
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 1061	Posted - 2013.10.24 02:40:00 - [2] - Quote Anything to make them suck less.
Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 2333	Posted - 2013.10.24 02:43:00 - [3] - Quote Rynoceros wrote: Anything to make them suck less. You can't fix stupid but you can make stupid a little bit tougher to take down. Oh but yes I agree completely.
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 281	Posted - 2013.10.24 02:49:00 - [4] - Quote Basically a "loyalty rewards" system for newcomers that triggers after the first week? Would be interesting, but you'd need some kind of interface to show that the bonus was a one time thing.. A "newcomer's timeline" that has a series of checklists, and if you complete an objective you get a reward? Like: Make your first fitting, change your equipment, change your gun, etc and when all checks are done it hands out a bit of SP?
Mr Machine Guns Nyain San The Ascendancy 56	Posted - 2013.10.24 03:00:00 - [5] - Quote make battle academy last longer 1200 WP is far to low for new people who starts this game what play at most 6 games against people who have your skill then get put in games against people who are far better then them. They need to change that first if anything
Rusty Shallows Black Jackals 437	Posted - 2013.10.24 03:07:00 - [6] - Quote Help, I can't find the "trolling" in the first post. Odell must have hidden it really well. Right now it reads like a helpful suggestion to cut back on the new character hazing.
Alldin Kan MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN. 711	Posted - 2013.10.24 03:11:00 - [7] - Quote CharCharOdell wrote: Okay, 500k is seriously not enough. let them start with 1,000,000 UA SP, but lock 500,000 SP for one week. that way, they can spend the first half finding what they dont like, then use the other half on what they do. I dont think anyone should have problem with this. Who else thinks this is a good idea? 1 mil is enough to get an adv suit, adv weapon, and a few basic module types and maybe 1 equipment std. Still better to have a cap of 6,000,000 SP with no extra SP added from the weekly cap. Once the guy gets past that, it's all about reaching the weekly cap.
Cosgar ParagonX 6371	Posted - 2013.10.24 03:38:00 - [8] - Quote I'd rather them get an accelerated SP gain and maybe even no weekly cap for up to ~3,000,000. More starting SP means more room to screw up their character right out the gate. Ban anything above standard gear in the academy, raise the graduation requirements to 100,000 WP with the option to participate in public and FW battles to gauge their skill level along the way.
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2026	Posted - 2013.10.24 03:40:00 - [9] - Quote CharCharOdell wrote: Okay, 500k is seriously not enough. let them start with 1,000,000 UA SP, but lock 500,000 SP for one week. that way, they can spend the first half finding what they dont like, then use the other half on what they do. I dont think anyone should have problem with this. Who else thinks this is a good idea? 1 mil is enough to get an adv suit, adv weapon, and a few basic module types and maybe 1 equipment std. +1
CharCharOdell Shining Flame Amarr Empire 1253	Posted - 2013.10.24 04:18:00 - [10] - Quote Rusty Shallows wrote: Help, I can't find the "trolling" in the first post. Odell must have hidden it really well. Right now it reads like a helpful suggestion to cut back on the new character hazing. No troll. I like newberries. They're so silly :p

Kal Kronos L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 86	Posted - 2013.10.24 05:54:00 - [11] - Quote I made this suggestion a while back, the response I got from people was only if they got a free 500K too. I honestly think some people just want to watch this game fail so they can watch it all burn.
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1878	Posted - 2013.10.24 06:10:00 - [12] - Quote CharCharOdell wrote: Okay, 500k is seriously not enough. let them start with 1,000,000 UA SP, but lock 500,000 SP for one week. that way, they can spend the first half finding what they dont like, then use the other half on what they do. I dont think anyone should have problem with this. Who else thinks this is a good idea? 1 mil is enough to get an adv suit, adv weapon, and a few basic module types and maybe 1 equipment std. Unless we have the rolling cap we were promised, I'd be happy letting newberries have the main release until present day amount of passive sp. And have it be re-assignable until they reach 10,000 total WP.
Repe Susi Rautaleijona Top Men. 723	Posted - 2013.10.24 06:27:00 - [13] - Quote Definitely agreed. Also as mentioned, make the Battle Academy last longer (and be more varied). 1200 WP is laughably low. You should have to play at least couple matches of every type (Ambush/Skirmish/Domination) before graduating from the BA. But yeah 1mil SP for starters!
mystus no1 Industrie und Handels Konsortium Tribunal Alliance 16	Posted - 2013.10.24 07:29:00 - [14] - Quote Help the newcomers! ~Throws SP through the area and yells HO! HO!~ +1
meri jin Goonfeet Top Men. 610	Posted - 2013.10.24 07:37:00 - [15] - Quote CharCharOdell wrote: Okay, 500k is seriously not enough. let them start with 1,000,000 UA SP, but lock 500,000 SP for one week. that way, they can spend the first half finding what they dont like, then use the other half on what they do. I dont think anyone should have problem with this. Who else thinks this is a good idea? 1 mil is enough to get an adv suit, adv weapon, and a few basic module types and maybe 1 equipment std. this and other militia suits, maybe even more militia done suits like 6 or 7. Give them scouts to scan, heavies and more weapons to try out. PS: and give all the old chars the extra 500.000 additional.
DJINN Marauder Ancient Exiles 2184	Posted - 2013.10.24 07:41:00 - [16] - Quote Love this idea. And increase the time in academy...like seriously My alt plays ONE game going 54-2 and gets put in regular matches wtf! lol.
meri jin Goonfeet Top Men. 613	Posted - 2013.10.24 07:43:00 - [17] - Quote DJINN Marauder wrote: Love this idea. And increase the time in academy...like seriously My alt plays ONE game going 54-2 and gets put in regular matches wtf! lol. You got killed two times? Yeah, ...like seriously, wtf! lol
Shogen Shu Algintal Core Gallente Federation 32	Posted - 2013.10.24 07:46:00 - [18] - Quote meri jin wrote: CharCharOdell wrote: Okay, 500k is seriously not enough. let them start with 1,000,000 UA SP, but lock 500,000 SP for one week. that way, they can spend the first half finding what they dont like, then use the other half on what they do. I dont think anyone should have problem with this. Who else thinks this is a good idea? 1 mil is enough to get an adv suit, adv weapon, and a few basic module types and maybe 1 equipment std. this and other militia suits, maybe even more militia done suits like 6 or 7. Give them scouts to scan, heavies and more weapons to try out. PS: and give all the old chars the extra 500.000 additional. Yes more suits and intelligent fittings. Make them more useful and give them roles to play. Like a real medic with a needle and armor repairer. The militia suits don't necessary need to be "real layout suits". Let them have the layout they need to have to fulfill the teaching role they need to fulfill.
Borne Velvalor Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 797	Posted - 2013.10.24 07:47:00 - [19] - Quote Rynoceros wrote: Anything to make them suck less. I am often at the top of teams running proto gear. In standard gear. No, I'm not that great a player, either. So, nothing will make them suck less. They'll suck less when I stop seeing 15 guys on the top of one tower sniping while I'm the only one actually capturing the point in Domination. True story.
meri jin Goonfeet Top Men. 613	Posted - 2013.10.24 07:47:00 - [20] - Quote OP need to chance the name from [Suggestion] Newberries start with 1 mil SP to [Suggestion] Newberries start with 1 mil SP & smart starting suits. ;)

Beld Errmon The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 1041	Posted - 2013.10.24 10:46:00 - [21] - Quote I say give them 2 mil SP and an optional respec after playing for 1 month, i'd say 90% of new players completely fail with their first characters training and no one wants to start again, even if its only a few weeks work, the respec alone would probably double your player retention.
Mortedeamor Internal Rebellion 507	Posted - 2013.10.24 11:41:00 - [22] - Quote CharCharOdell wrote: Okay, 500k is seriously not enough. let them start with 1,000,000 UA SP, but lock 500,000 SP for one week. that way, they can spend the first half finding what they dont like, then use the other half on what they do. I dont think anyone should have problem with this. Who else thinks this is a good idea? 1 mil is enough to get an adv suit, adv weapon, and a few basic module types and maybe 1 equipment std. i would also like them to remove the sp cap and implement it only once 5 mill so has been reached..that way they can at least grind out 1 solid specc i would like to raise the sp rewards in academy by 30% and bump graduation to 5 mill sp.. they would only have to sit in academy if they were not capable of obtaining 5 mill sp easily...which i mean with no cap..i could max and remove a alt from the academy in these conditions in 24 -48 hours and it would come out with a little survivability also upon graduation give them an optional full respec ..most blue dots probably ruin they're first character
meri jin Goonfeet Top Men. 616	Posted - 2013.10.24 12:18:00 - [23] - Quote EVE pilots get a attribute respec but it isn't as critical as a SP respec. A an optional full respec for noob could be interesting, but first they need to try everything and for this, newbies need more startsuits to test from.
N7 Operative Anthony WarRavens League of Infamy 4	Posted - 2013.10.24 12:45:00 - [24] - Quote +1 this idea. Help the newbs!
Justice Prevails Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 56	Posted - 2013.10.24 14:27:00 - [25] - Quote Mortedeamor wrote: CharCharOdell wrote: Okay, 500k is seriously not enough. let them start with 1,000,000 UA SP, but lock 500,000 SP for one week. that way, they can spend the first half finding what they dont like, then use the other half on what they do. I dont think anyone should have problem with this. Who else thinks this is a good idea? 1 mil is enough to get an adv suit, adv weapon, and a few basic module types and maybe 1 equipment std. i would also like them to remove the sp cap and implement it only once 5 mill so has been reached..that way they can at least grind out 1 solid specc i would like to raise the sp rewards in academy by 30% and bump graduation to 5 mill sp.. they would only have to sit in academy if they were not capable of obtaining 5 mill sp easily...which i mean with no cap..i could max and remove a alt from the academy in these conditions in 24 -48 hours and it would come out with a little survivability also upon graduation give them an optional full respec ..most blue dots probably ruin they're first character This. Went thru 2 or 3 characters starting out. Kept screwing them up. Then again, I am a little slow:)
RedBleach LeSanglant Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 440	Posted - 2013.10.24 23:22:00 - [26] - Quote sounds good, I like the locking half of it away bit.


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