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Thor McStrut
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Posted - 2013.10.23 18:47:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:Why are they NOT being removed? Does CCP really lack the balls to give a small amount of refunds to fix a core problem with the game?
Because they are not game breaking. The game is just broken, and unfinished. BPOs will work just fine once industry, PvE, and the market are introduced. |
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Posted - 2013.10.23 21:24:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:Thor McStrut wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:Why are they NOT being removed? Does CCP really lack the balls to give a small amount of refunds to fix a core problem with the game? Because they are not game breaking. The game is just broken, and unfinished. BPOs will work just fine once industry, PvE, and the market are introduced. I didn't define them as gamebreaking, CCP did.
I know. They say gamebreaking, but they really mean wallet breaking. People aren't buying enough Aurum to purchase their crap militia suits. It's hardly gamebreaking.
With the isk removal from Faction Warfare, BPOs are going to be the only thing keeping it alive until the player market opens and Faction gear is worth using.
Edit: Not to mention that they just released their $$$ Anniversary Edition boxed set.... That contains...................................... ******* BPOs!!  |
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Posted - 2013.10.23 21:51:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:Here's another tidbit for those who say "do it the EVE way" ... CCP is actually trying to phase that out. New modules, for example, are released through controlled drops of BPC. They are still pushing this with the goal of taking back control of the economy/making the AUR store contain more temporary power ups, even after burn jita. So I would not bet on the EVE structure coming to DUST, since CCP doesn't like it in EVE already.
I agree that CCP seems incapable of understanding what people want to spend money on. But BPCs are still manufacturable in Eve, just limited run. They could impose a weekly resetting limit on our current BPOs in Dust. There are reasonable ways to subtly change it without ripping us off. |
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Posted - 2013.10.23 22:12:00 -
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Rowdy Railgunner wrote:Thor McStrut wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:Here's another tidbit for those who say "do it the EVE way" ... CCP is actually trying to phase that out. New modules, for example, are released through controlled drops of BPC. They are still pushing this with the goal of taking back control of the economy/making the AUR store contain more temporary power ups, even after burn jita. So I would not bet on the EVE structure coming to DUST, since CCP doesn't like it in EVE already. I agree that CCP seems incapable of understanding what people want to spend money on. But BPCs are still manufacturable in Eve, just limited run. They could impose a weekly resetting limit on our current BPOs in Dust. There are reasonable ways to subtly change it without ripping us off. No there isn't. Any change to BPOs now is a slap in the face to customers. CCP Frame wrote:So donGÇÖt forget to take advantage of the in-game market now to secure items that you may need before they are gone from the in-game store! https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=112962&find=unreadThis is why I wrote the Nerf BPOs thread is this is why CCP keeps getting worse and worse. They tell you one thing then instantly change it. If it was related to in game SP ISK related gear, yeah sure change it. But when you purposefully lead the customer on and then try to switch the product after the sale. Well there are laws against that.
And they used to advertise Ghost Training in Eve as a Feature. Then, when they realized it was hitting them in the wallet, they back-peddled, and called it an Unintentional Bug that was getting fixed.
I'm not saying I disagree with you, but I'm saying that they will do what they think best for their bottom line. If we as players could at least force a compromise, to limit our loss, then that will be the best for all of us. |
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Posted - 2013.10.23 22:46:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:Rowdy Railgunner wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Rowdy Railgunner wrote:Thor McStrut wrote:
And they used to advertise Ghost Training in Eve as a Feature. Then, when they realized it was hitting them in the wallet, they back-peddled, and called it an Unintentional Bug that was getting fixed.
I'm not saying I disagree with you, but I'm saying that they will do what they think best for their bottom line. If we as players could at least force a compromise, to limit our loss, then that will be the best for all of us.
Then CCP just straight up lies to their customers. Why would they allow that post if they knew that in less than a month later they were going to say BPOs where going to go away. And why would they use the fact that the 10 yr CE came with BPOs for DUST? That would mean it was lie, and could be punishable because it can be argued that it caused damages. Would I have payed real money to get the BPOs that they were pushing because of them being removed from the market, if I knew that under a month later they were going to announce that they were thinking of getting rid of them? No, so right there that causes me distress. Either way lying as a company is far worse for a bottom line than a few BPOs are. You really should read dust's and Sonys EULA. And you should read about some cases where companies purposefully mislead customers. How about instead of ignoring me go read something in which you signed blindly like an idiot. Also you should look up some of the cases against sony (None of them were successful even though they had very valid reason in doing so. You know what fked them over? Their EULA which they signed blindly too)
The problem here is that if you want to play, you have to accept it. And by doing so, you are giving up some of your consumer rights. There have been cases where EULAs have been deemed illegal, and parts of them were overturned in the courts, but that usually takes money. Money most of us don't have and can't afford, cus we are blowing it on digital crap in video games. 
Is it fair? Probably not, but it's a risk that CCP is obviously willing to take. What happens when CCP decides Dust is no longer viable, and closes the connection? We all lose it all. I guarantee we won't be getting refunds then either.  |
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